Other changes might follow in the future, we're not done with you- Smartgun ammo container now stores 500 rounds instead of 250. SG sights don't have the red overlay anymore (but work the same).
- Smartgunners can now buy a BC in their vendor, but it's very expensive.
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Expert at friendly fire, girls and weapons.They are actually very balanced. The difference is ya get marines who think they can rambo a xeno and when they die, they get all salty about it.Mizari 10/12/2018, Xeno mutators
Mature armored castes might be able to deal with a SG but yeah for others it's nothing to ignore and suppression works very well in long hallways.kastion wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 02:26I wish some of you would just play xeno and go stand infront of a smart gunner. Yall saying it tickles don't know what you are talking about. Ya a ancient defender with lowered crest or an elder crusher aint gonna get rekt by a SG but htat don't mean SG tickles and is useless.
Protip give the BC to someone else, who cares about your sidearm and its attachments you are a SG. They added 4 more free BCs to marines and yall find a way to complain.
When xeno stands directly in front of SG? Next time try this trick, but stay at the edge of his screen. If he decides to shoot (without going closer) , you will be able to stand there for about 5 seconds, or more. Now add moving xenos to the equation (not in the straight line, time to end brainless xeno gameplay mindset). Even mature defender's speed is enough for burst weapons to miss more than a half shoots.kastion wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 02:26I wish some of you would just play xeno and go stand infront of a smart gunner. Yall saying it tickles don't know what you are talking about. Ya a ancient defender with lowered crest or an elder crusher aint gonna get rekt by a SG but htat don't mean SG tickles and is useless.
Protip give the BC to someone else, who cares about your sidearm and its attachments you are a SG. They added 4 more free BCs to marines and yall find a way to complain.
I'm just gonna chime in a bit. Have you tried BC/RDS/VGrip or AGrip M41 ever? Because 2 BC AP bursts crit every T1+T2+young T3 without Warding, and it only takes like 4/5 bursts to crit a queen with Warding. BC M41 is way more versatile and way better for chasing than M37CABAL wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 04:32When xeno stands directly in front of SG? Next time try this trick, but stay at the edge of his screen. If he decides to shoot (without going closer) , you will be able to stand there for about 5 seconds, or more. Now add moving xenos to the equation (not in the straight line, time to end brainless xeno gameplay mindset). Even mature defender's speed is enough for burst weapons to miss more than a half shoots.
BC is shit on any weapon besides Shotguns designed to PB. Benomains will always find a way to excuse valid complains. Body dragging was and is a strong example. Look at all xenomains that posted in thread about it. Look and learn.
I'm not using Pulse Rifle anymore. Only slug shotgun, or flamer. If it indeed can do that, then why no xeno cries about this combo? I've never saw any little bit of complain about this and from my experience with BC on SG I assumed it's for those CoD players who like to only do raw damage. I'm not that kind of a grunt. Support and area denial.DefinitelyAlone0309 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 04:43I'm just gonna chime in a bit. Have you tried BC/RDS/VGrip or AGrip M41 ever? Because 2 BC AP bursts crit every T1+T2+young T3 without Warding, and it only takes like 4/5 bursts to crit a queen with Warding. BC M41 is way more versatile and way better for chasing than M37
WASTED POTENTIAL IS THE NAME
Expert at friendly fire, girls and weapons.They are actually very balanced. The difference is ya get marines who think they can rambo a xeno and when they die, they get all salty about it.Mizari 10/12/2018, Xeno mutators
BC m41 is a thing, Avalanche and many others use it every time. Xenos don't cry about everything just the things we cant do anything about like RPG instakilling us. m41a even if it hits hard doesn't do shit if the guy using it cant aim so theres still some counter play there. Shotgun takes no skill whatsoever that why I use it even though im a scrub marine and I still get multiple kills a game.CABAL wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 04:51I'm not using Pulse Rifle anymore. Only slug shotgun, or flamer. If it indeed can do that, then why no xeno cries about this combo? I've never saw any little bit of complain about this and from my experience with BC on SG I assumed it's for those CoD players who like to only do raw damage. I'm not that kind of a grunt. Support and area denial.
Because it's not as obvious as BC Buckshot? Because by the time they found out it's BC M41 they're already dead from 2 bursts? Because you aren't usually on Discord and you don't see the conversation about BC M41 or decked out M41 in general?CABAL wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 04:51I'm not using Pulse Rifle anymore. Only slug shotgun, or flamer. If it indeed can do that, then why no xeno cries about this combo? I've never saw any little bit of complain about this and from my experience with BC on SG I assumed it's for those CoD players who like to only do raw damage. I'm not that kind of a grunt. Support and area denial.
The rest of your post is spot on, but this right here. THIS RIGHT HERE. Marines always gauge shit in 1v1 but its usually 4v1. Marines win with concentrated fire. If every gun could 1v1 easily xenos would get rekt completely in any big fight.DefinitelyAlone0309 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 05:14...
AND ALL OF THIS IS JUST YOU. I'M NOT EVEN COUNTING THE EXTRA DUDE ON THE SIDE WITH ANOTHER BC M41 SHOOTING SHIT WITH YOU.
If you're not killing, you're not supporting. Already as a mature warrior I can just run over to an M41 AP rifle marine for a fling/lunge, dance with him for 5-10 seconds wondering why I can't seem to land my stun, and then run away at <10% health for a rest out of his line of sight and finally realize I was in agility mode the whole time.
That's why some people use the masterkey. I know when I play xeno, I keep my distance from someone I see with a shotgun, because I know it's dangerous and can kill me. But anyone with an M41 out is easy game. I had a situation a day ago where two marines behind cades were covering a narrow corridor - I'd run out, fling or punch one, and run back to cover. Over and over. They couldn't do shit to me. Attacking over barbed wire didn't hurt, the two of them shooting 'hurt', but it was never enough to bring me past 50% hp despite knowing where I was coming and being ready for it. Their grenades took too long to go off too - at one point they landed an HEDP right next to me while I was resting on the ground, I literally had enough time to get up and run out of the explosion radius before it blew.
Turn off your hud and go fight people without looking at your health and see how long you last. The only reason they never take you past 50% is because you are making a conscious decision to run when you start dying. You are just making shit up and saying we are liars trying to get free wins. You and the marine mains are the ones crying non stop since mutator came in because you cant even try to adapt to the game. The only people who say m41a are garbage are people who arent good at the game. Think about that for a minute.Boersgard wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 17:30That's why some people use the masterkey. I know when I play xeno, I keep my distance from someone I see with a shotgun, because I know it's dangerous and can kill me. But anyone with an M41 out is easy game. I had a situation a day ago where two marines behind cades were covering a narrow corridor - I'd run out, fling or punch one, and run back to cover. Over and over. They couldn't do shit to me. Attacking over barbed wire didn't hurt, the two of them shooting 'hurt', but it was never enough to bring me past 50% hp despite knowing where I was coming and being ready for it. Their grenades took too long to go off too - at one point they landed an HEDP right next to me while I was resting on the ground, I literally had enough time to get up and run out of the explosion radius before it blew.
It wasn't until a guy with a flamer and another guy with a shotgun came up to the cade that I stopped toying with them like this.
The M41 is garbage against xenos, so is the smartgun. Flamers are pretty good, shotguns are really good, and the RPG will wreck you.
Xenomains talking like M41's are something to worry about are just trying to defend casual risk-free gameplay. You're almost never getting hit by more than 2 M41's at a time simply because of tight spaces and friendly fire risks, but the actual damage output is balanced out like you're meant to get hit by 5+ M41's at once. Frankly if you're getting shot by 5+ M41 marines you SHOULD be dead, not running off and healing or surviving long enough for other xenos to bodyblock killshots.
The problem is rn it is usually 2v1 at best after first engagement. If marines didn’t push and made queen deovi - they already LOST because soon most of larvas will pop. (Even if queen deovi’d benos still have chances). With beno survivability and power their numbers MUST be lowered. Or weapons should be dangerous in case of 2v1/1v1
