Moderators and admins do not step onto our councils, if one of the whitelist gets ahelped, it has to be dealt through us, not them.Urytion wrote: ↑12 Dec 2018, 20:32I don't like councils for two reasons.
The first is that they tend to create self policing circlejerks. I don't think this has happened (yet), but I'd put money down on it happening within the next year.
The second is that ultimately, it doesn't matter. Admins and moderators make the rules.
Why are councils disliked?
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I was a Synth Councilmen, alongside Jakkk, MattAtlas, SovietKitty and Omicega.
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but if we pass our complaint resolutions and application decisions by emerald how are we gonna create a self policing circlejerk
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It's pretty easy to guess/figure out: They're insular cliques that are difficult for people to break into and devolve into shitty infighting/drama/politics between people bickering and hating each other for shitty reasons and/or create metafriend groups where preferential treatment is given to those in the group.Enigmachine wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 13:27This came up in a thread I made.
Why are councils disliked so strongly by some people? I was not aware that that was a thing.
It always seems to happen to any sort of role/group that's designed to prevent fresh blood getting into it regularly. I don't think it's possible to even avoid it, and I'm not sure how you can fix it besides getting rid of the whitelists entirely and just putting the roles on a play timer.
I'd furthermore like to add that I've never seen these restrictions actually encourage RP to any serious degree. Sure, you have to write a book to get into xyz whitelist; doesn't make much actual difference in-game. You still get people who barely roleplay, you still get people arguing so and so doesn't roleplay properly, you still get people roleplaying properly quite well. In other words, the only thing I've seen these kinds of whitelists accomplish is creating groups of people who can brag that they're a step above and better than the proles.
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This guy is a wise poster, and others should listen to him.Hes right, its easy to see why and how, its harder to not see it..Boersgard wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 19:23It's pretty easy to guess/figure out: They're insular cliques that are difficult for people to break into and devolve into shitty infighting/drama/politics between people bickering and hating each other for shitty reasons and/or create metafriend groups where preferential treatment is given to those in the group.
It always seems to happen to any sort of role/group that's designed to prevent fresh blood getting into it regularly. I don't think it's possible to even avoid it, and I'm not sure how you can fix it besides getting rid of the whitelists entirely and just putting the roles on a play timer.
I'd furthermore like to add that I've never seen these restrictions actually encourage RP to any serious degree. Sure, you have to write a book to get into xyz whitelist; doesn't make much actual difference in-game. You still get people who barely roleplay, you still get people arguing so and so doesn't roleplay properly, you still get people roleplaying properly quite well. In other words, the only thing I've seen these kinds of whitelists accomplish is creating groups of people who can brag that they're a step above and better than the proles.
This system stinks, there is a way to avoid it, im going to show you all how very shortly.
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I will murder you Brittany Breeze
"It was a fantastic round. If the CO hadn't cryo'ed before the end I'd have bothered him to give at least two more medals. To PFC Max Dallas, who kept doing the path between the frontlines to FOB (the only place with medical aid) with a roller bed, and saved a lot of marines who'd have husked otherwise. And to Dr. Haley Altman, who after all medics were gone was fixing us time and again for hours straight. At the end there were over 10 patients around her either dead or in crit, and she just kept going."
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Do you mean this? https://www.reddit.com/r/SS13/comments/ ... nterested/BillyBoBBizWorth wrote: ↑23 Dec 2018, 08:29This system stinks, there is a way to avoid it, im going to show you all how very shortly.
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Is there any posts that I can read that fully explain who's on the councils, the duties of the councils and any other info?
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Re: Why are councils disliked?
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There is a list of current council members.
They work with developers to get bugs fixed or features added to their whitelist. They also vote on every application for their whitelist. The council takes a vote after discussion.
Clancy 'Danger' Long
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