Marines in the last couple of month have been bee-lining to Nostro equipment for extra helmets and gear.
The new Craze is to get a firesuit, shield and go around with a flamethrower.
I've played both sides for long periods of time and I can honestly say it doesn't make sense that marines are using the Nostro equipment so frequently. They'll constantly ditch their gear that they were started off with to grab a helmet on a unknown station. For RP reasons this would COMPLETELY be against standard protocol in the marines orders.
It's also power-gaming as fuck. Grabbing EVA helmets because they are stronger, grabbing fire suits to use with your flamethrower, using bio hoods without the bio suit?
We do have rules about using Nostro Equipment, but it's seldom enforced.
I propose that if you use any helmet/suit combination on your character you MUST have the entire set. So if you want to use the Bio-helmet, you'd have to wear the suit as well. Same goes for EVA gear etc. Having marines ditch their main gear for gear they find on a unknown station is META and Power-gaming as fuck and it's only getting worse and worse lately.
Marines Using Nostro Equipment Getting Ridiculous
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Re: Marines Using Nostro Equipment Getting Ridiculous
Well, maybe if the helmets we're issued weren't complete shit prone to cease existing at the sight of a facehugger...
That said, I only use non-marine helmets if mine *poof*-ed during a fight and there's a ton of huggers around. Unfair and stupid? Wanna know what's more unfair and stupid? My helmet being "ripped off" out of my face and out of this plane of existence. It's in a better place now.
EDIT: Also, as I've said in another thread, flamethrower should be moved to Engineer Prep. Engineers can actually get firesuits from the machine here, so it would fix more than one issue at once. If only these Sulaco-spawned firesuits didn't trigger the motion sensor... Maybe make it check for jumpsuit, not outter armor?
That said, I only use non-marine helmets if mine *poof*-ed during a fight and there's a ton of huggers around. Unfair and stupid? Wanna know what's more unfair and stupid? My helmet being "ripped off" out of my face and out of this plane of existence. It's in a better place now.
EDIT: Also, as I've said in another thread, flamethrower should be moved to Engineer Prep. Engineers can actually get firesuits from the machine here, so it would fix more than one issue at once. If only these Sulaco-spawned firesuits didn't trigger the motion sensor... Maybe make it check for jumpsuit, not outter armor?
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Re: Marines Using Nostro Equipment Getting Ridiculous
Completely agree that it's silly.
Marien gear should be better than everything on Nostro within reason. It's extremely ridiculous when marine's are pulling bio-hoods out of their backpack after losing their helmets. It's also power-gaming because logically... who carries a extra helmet around like that?
Marien gear should be better than everything on Nostro within reason. It's extremely ridiculous when marine's are pulling bio-hoods out of their backpack after losing their helmets. It's also power-gaming because logically... who carries a extra helmet around like that?
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Re: Marines Using Nostro Equipment Getting Ridiculous
I must agree. It is getting ridiculous.
No matter..
It will be resolved in the ALPHA.
No matter..
It will be resolved in the ALPHA.
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Re: Marines Using Nostro Equipment Getting Ridiculous
This sounds like a IC issue.
Have USMC CC call down to commander "Yo looting = jail."
Done.
Have USMC CC call down to commander "Yo looting = jail."
Done.
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Re: Marines Using Nostro Equipment Getting Ridiculous
Then, military police will not be on Nostromo to arrest them.
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Re: Marines Using Nostro Equipment Getting Ridiculous
You'd never have any of the MP's on Sulaco and you'd constantly have marines fighting.EastGermanStasi wrote:This sounds like a IC issue.
Have USMC CC call down to commander "Yo looting = jail."
Done.
Honestly it's a simple fix really.
Just make Marine gear stronger than all the alternatives, EVA gear purely for space and it shouldn't be GREAT. If any gear should get destroyed when a facehugger latches on it should be EVA gear. (As seen in Alien where the spacesuit gets the mask melted right through)
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Re: Marines Using Nostro Equipment Getting Ridiculous
Powegamer here:
Like Derpislav said, if our standadard helmets weren't absolutely shit (give us a flashlight, and maybe put a camera on our helmets so our commander could see through our eyes), people wouldn't be so eager to get the first bio hood the saw.
If fire suits aren't supplied to standard marines (who carry the flamethrowers) and these marines decide to get fire suits on Nostromo, the problem doesn't lie with marines, but with the game design. If Marines have flamethowers, they are supposed to be given EVEN BETTER firesuits (suits that don't slow you down and can carry extra plasma tanks, for example). People don't spend billions of dollars on military to have civilian gear outperform military gear.
Like Derpislav said, if our standadard helmets weren't absolutely shit (give us a flashlight, and maybe put a camera on our helmets so our commander could see through our eyes), people wouldn't be so eager to get the first bio hood the saw.
If fire suits aren't supplied to standard marines (who carry the flamethrowers) and these marines decide to get fire suits on Nostromo, the problem doesn't lie with marines, but with the game design. If Marines have flamethowers, they are supposed to be given EVEN BETTER firesuits (suits that don't slow you down and can carry extra plasma tanks, for example). People don't spend billions of dollars on military to have civilian gear outperform military gear.
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Re: Marines Using Nostro Equipment Getting Ridiculous
Fire suit makes sense, but I feel Flamers need to be reduced to 1 per squad, or engineers only. About the helmets, go walk into a bunch of huggers and tell me you won't be looking for. Quick replacement.