Predator Idea...

[Themaster]

But that would be really difficult for people with different timezones, and couldn't work.

[Feweh]

But that would be really difficult for people with different timezones, and couldn't work.

We have multiple people who live in different Time-Zone's.

Reading through this I've noticed most people don't really have a good argument against it. Seems more of people who are against it is simply because they don't want to have to pass "another" test to get through.

Honestly, playing Predator is a serious Balance issue... in the wrong hand's it could be deadly.

[Gentlefood]

We have multiple people who live in different Time-Zone's.

Reading through this I've noticed most people don't really have a good argument against it. Seems more of people who are against it is simply because they don't want to have to pass "another" test to get through.

Honestly, playing Predator is a serious Balance issue... in the wrong hand's it could be deadly.

That's why I advocate for better rules or restrictions on Predators. If they just murderbone then it is guarenteed to piss people off because they're playing a gamemode within a gamemode. The exclusivity of a "terrorist ID" makes it even more annoying to the average player.

[Feweh]

That's why I advocate for better rules or restrictions on Predators. If they just murderbone then it is guarenteed to piss people off because they're playing a gamemode within a gamemode. The exclusivity of a "terrorist ID" makes it even more annoying to the average player.

You can set all the rule's and restrictions you want, a good majority of people are still going to screw up.

[Gentlefood]

You can set all the rule's and restrictions you want, a good majority of people are still going to screw up.

Is that not the whole point of the whitelist and jobbanning?

[Themaster]

Yeah, but it sounds like the way the whitelist is going, it's going to be all about how good you are at the game.

[YummyToast]

I think it is primarily just to regulate of Predators are having fun themselves as well as allowing other players to enjoy the round as well. I don't think it is entirely reliant on skill.

[snow5445]

Or it will become an old boys club. Where certain people only want them to have that job.

[YummyToast]

Or it will become an old boys club. Where certain people only want them to have that job.

Aka a faction whitelist without the old men metaphor? Of course they will be regulating people who play them

[Wickedtemp]

+1

I like what 1138 suggested as well, higher ranking Predators get some shiny new toys to play with, as it would provide incentive to actually do better. I may go for a predator whitelist, but I'll be starting college soon... Moving out tomorrow morning, actually, so until I get into the swing of that I don't know if I'll actually be able to play too much.

[Felkvir]

Yes. Higher ranked preds will hopefully be given access to more gear (combisticks or any spear weapons are very unusual for youngbloods and such i believe) and i also like the idea that has been suggested before, that maybe people could donate for a different mask design (that fits their rank ofc).. Maybe higher ranked can have better and/or more stylized variations of armor. There's a lot of potential for progressing in stuff since Yautja society is a rank system based on merit and skill.

And there are A TON of newly whitelisted people already .. Youngbloods, who will indeed need training in the way of the long hunt from skilled superiors .... *cough*meSASandabby*cough*

[Feweh]

Predator ranking needs to be re-worked for the older Predstors and all new predators need to start as young-blood.

Its pretty much a free for all right now.

[Evilkyle24]

Just got whitelisted and I would indeed like a training course.

[Dreviore]

If it gives lesser known people a shot at the role, I'm all for it.

Mostly cause I've spent the past few days writing my own predator, and I've still got a few more days of writing to go.

But I'm afraid that since I'm not overly known in the community I won't get much of a fair shot.

Plus it gives us an opportunity to learn how to actually play predator without ruining a regular round

My only problem with it is this.

Writing lore is no easy feat. As loremaster for a Hardcore MineCraft RP server revolving around Horror and Steampunk, I spent months drafting, and driving myself nuts not only on my off time, but also while I was at work. Only for the project to fall under cause the owner ran off with all the custom stuff we made for the server, and went his own way. Writing lore for the predator has been a fun experience so far, I'm on day 2 of writing my predator, and I see a few more days before I deem it 'good enough'

Adding another layer to get approved is KIND of discouraging, but so long as you're not refusing people for just being bad at it (You need field time to learn how to actually play the role), I see no real issue.

[Feweh]

If it gives lesser known people a shot at the role, I'm all for it.

Mostly cause I've spent the past few days writing my own predator, and I've still got a few more days of writing to go.

But I'm afraid that since I'm not overly known in the community I won't get much of a fair shot.

Plus it gives us an opportunity to learn how to actually play predator without ruining a regular round

My only problem with it is this.

Writing lore is no easy feat. As loremaster for a Hardcore MineCraft RP server revolving around Horror and Steampunk, I spent months drafting, and driving myself nuts not only on my off time, but also while I was at work. Only for the project to fall under cause the owner ran off with all the custom stuff we made for the server, and went his own way. Writing lore for the predator has been a fun experience so far, I'm on day 2 of writing my predator, and I see a few more days before I deem it 'good enough'

Adding another layer to get approved is KIND of discouraging, but so long as you're not refusing people for just being bad at it (You need field time to learn how to actually play the role), I see no real issue.

You need to be somewhat known in the community. The whole point of the whitelist is so random players don't fuck the rounds up with such a delicate position.

You could be the best writter and have an amazing BIO. However you could still be a giant fucking asshole for all anyone knows.

You need to be known or shown that you are a competent marine and if no one knows youre in-game character its either because youre knew or not competent.

Having a presence on the forums helps majorly too, it shows youre involved and interested in the community. Solely registering for staff and whitelist positions is frowned upon.

So by all means the system is fair. Its unfair to people who are in your situation who only joined the forums recently. The system rewards known and community involved players, not new registers who play occasionally.

[MrJJJ]

The idea is preety good, nothing really much to say althought i think there should be more admin-hunts than just 1...

[Jack McIntyre]

I would say that it is a good idea admin hunt, but to actually add some story for the clans go with pink's suggestion. Imagine that the clan notices that one predator isn't pulling their weight, and thus when he is picked for a job they put him with two other veteran hunters who will try help train and see if the bloodied is not going to become a great Hunter or if they can still be trained they are just a bit slow with it. It could also add some clan politics, in predators they even show there is some times where the predators turn on one another and say one clan insults the honor or the strength of their warriors. I am sure if those predators ever met they may not be on he best of terms. Adds some more things to play with role play wise.

I do like the admin hunt as well just due to them actually be admins, I know hard it is trying to organize people who don't care for orders as a marine and just go Rambo. Add that and then add the pressure that the admin is your judge, it kinda of shows that if you can do it with then watching then you don't have to worry about doing a hunt and completely messing it up.

[DiscountDan]

That's a +1 from me.

[Gelonvia]

So, it was suggested to me, we do a bit of a special thing with predators.

Here's what we are currently thinking of doing:

Before you are white-listed, you will participate in an "admin-run" hunt. Basically, an admin, will lead a team of whitelist applicants. If you don't screw up as a pred, you'll get whitelisted (even if you die). Your name will be added to the whitelist, along with "Bloodied" as a rank, and your clan name.

NOW, here's where it gets interesting. *IF* in-game, you distinguish yourself as a predator, and it is felt that you are an exceptional predator, your rank will be changed to "Elite".

Further Honor, will give you the title of "Elder/Clan Leader".

To distinguish yourself, promote good RP, don't be a giant dickbag, and follow the predator honor code.



Anyway, what do people thing?

I love the idea of it all to promote actual Role Play that carries on to the next round, however when it comes down to Elder/Clan Leader my biggest issue is your dealing with a Title given to the heaviest of Predators in power, they don't have time to head out and hunt, they are deligating work loads to their Elites for operations and handling Inner-Clan Issues and aswell as Clan Fueds. Just reaching the title requires by what Lore we are working off of Clearing a total of 300 Nests and grabbing each Queens hide, that's a lot of work.

I know one thing discussed by Abby before was different item-sets for Bloodied/Elites, and I don't know about the rest of you but I wouldn't mind a downgrade from my Plasma Caster to a simple Power Crossbow to twist a challenge on myself. Maybe also make it so Standard Predators have the shoulder plate clan armor and simple mask while Elites have the Heavy Plate Mask/Horned Plate Mask with Full Body Platemail.

Just some simple rewards to promote good RP and good Ethics while playing the game.

[Seehund]

I really like this idea; deserving Yautja would earn their rank, and better equipment.

Furthermore, it would add a pretty big sense of continuity.

I agree with pretty much of the above, especially with

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So, y'know. +1.

[Logi99]

Before we get admin runs, can we have a tutorial. Like being tped to the thunder dome and fighting a xeno or marine. Also I am terrible at backstory because I am bad with the lore but being able to test your skills are in game for whitelist seems good 1+

[Fourty2]

Instead of admin run hunts, why not vote on who is the top 3 best/most active predators currently on the server, and any staff online can let them know that their RP goal for the session, will be properly teaching and initiating the un-bloodied yautja.

I'm 100% all for this, even though i'm planning on making a pred app, simply due to the fact that it promotes more RP interactions in game.

Maybe the first round, the un-bloodied will be forced to watch the elite hunter that is training them for a long while before they are allowed to initiate a hunt instead. Throwing ideas at the wall to see what sticks lol.

Cannonically, it makes ALOT of sense to add this in some form or another to the predator class.

P.S. Who doesn't want to be the very best, that no-one ever was?

[Adjective]

Instead of admin run hunts, why not vote on who is the top 3 best/most active predators currently on the server, and any staff online can let them know that their RP goal for the session, will be properly teaching and initiating the un-bloodied yautja.

I'm 100% all for this, even though i'm planning on making a pred app, simply due to the fact that it promotes more RP interactions in game.

Maybe the first round, the un-bloodied will be forced to watch the elite hunter that is training them for a long while before they are allowed to initiate a hunt instead. Throwing ideas at the wall to see what sticks lol.

Cannonically, it makes ALOT of sense to add this in some form or another to the predator class.

P.S. Who doesn't want to be the very best, that no-one ever was?

If we were going off of canon, there would be an Elite along that was watching whether the young bloods passed or failed (died). There would be no combat from the elites. It would be better to keep them staff regulated as your "top three" would more likely be a mentor than a random player.

[Jack McIntyre]

I would be fine by that, during Apop's predator vs marines game, I ended up mentoring all the new people who were just whitelisted and wanted to try predator out or didn't have as much experience. Myself and Apop sat back and watched from as the the unbloodied predators fought marines and I only joined the fray once many of the predators were already dead so all I did was sneak onto the ship and cause a bit of chaos to give the predators on the planet some breathing room otherwise I did not attack any marines I just gave advice and watched the other predators and made sure that none of the others broke the honor code. I would certainly agree that if we are going to have these pred rounds just until others get more experience that we have at least one staff member with them that can at least just keep a eye on the other two until they have "proven" themselves and they can officially be bloodied and such.

[qsleepy]

that we have at least one staff member with them that can at least just keep a eye on the other two until they have "proven" themselves and they can officially be bloodied and such.

I've been on with apop and preds going and every time its preds murder-boning. 12-15 marines likely have to chase a predator down (which isn't easy because it's like slightly slower than a runner) While it regenerates and shoots 2-shot-crit weapons. You'll have about 3-4 marines remaining from this if you are lucky, while the aliens sit back and pick the marines off. 9/10 aliens and pred focus on marines. I'm scratching my brain wondering how many honor codes include indiscriminate killing of all humans or something. I'm not sure if they do still but you finally down one and kill it and it blows up like 15 square tiles. Seems super forced.