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Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
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- Arachnidnexus
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
Hey Rahlzel, would it be possible to get the stats on the ratio since the recent changes to gun damage and evolve time?
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
I'm also curious to see how the ratio looks.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
I think a while ago Apoph said it was around like... 60% aliens, 40% marines, though there's a chance I could be "recalling" something that was never said, so... don't take my word for it.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
Usually when I play RO, or even CO for that matter, there IS no Requisitons Officer so I have to fill in. That one round, I was working overtime as CO and RO, sending rockets/supplies to the surface before dying myself to a Supermatter that hit the bridge. I ghosted and burst as an ayylium, and saw just how effective my supply drops were being.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
I think it might be worth mentioning that the ratio (I assume) treats prime time the same as 5AM on a Wednesday. Which I really think we should be recording win/lose ratios only when the population is higher than 50 at the end of the round.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
I was RO in a round that Xenos won. The groundside chatter was that everything was going tits up and Marines lost heavily. As RO, due to incompetent command, I declared Cargonia as independent. CO led marines that could have been used to hold the FOB against me and killed me. I then was cloned, and as independent with a missing ID card, suicided in cloning because I couldn't get out and became an alien.
Tyler 'Thrift' Borealis: Slaughterer of stupid xenos, insane motherfucker, and who played tower defense with Predators with an axe.
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BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
WIN/LOSS RATIO FROM LAST 7 DAYS (not counting today):
30:30 Or also... 1:1
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30:30 Or also... 1:1
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Starting up - 2015-11-16 (00:58:59)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 9. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:23
Starting up - 2015-11-16 (03:33:26)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 14
Round time: 12:59
Starting up - 2015-11-16 (04:36:35)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 7. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:27
Starting up - 2015-11-16 (06:08:44)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 9
Round time: 12:24
Starting up - 2015-11-16 (06:36:03)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 9
Round time: 13:58
Starting up - 2015-11-16 (08:38:04)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 13
Round time: 14:57
Starting up - 2015-11-16 (11:44:06)
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Starting up - 2015-11-16 (13:08:35)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 32
Round time: 13:10
Starting up - 2015-11-16 (14:24:32)
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Starting up - 2015-11-16 (14:43:18)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 54
Round time: 13:03
Starting up - 2015-11-16 (16:00:06)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 22. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:32
Starting up - 2015-11-16 (17:58:43)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 1
Round time: 14:47
Starting up - 2015-11-16 (21:20:06)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 23
Round time: 14:17
Starting up - 2015-11-17 (00:01:23)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 16
Round time: 14:05
Starting up - 2015-11-17 (02:22:11)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 16. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:08
Starting up - 2015-11-17 (04:41:16)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 8. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 15:27
Starting up - 2015-11-17 (08:18:52)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 8. Humans remaining: 11
Round time: 18:21
Starting up - 2015-11-17 (15:18:43)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 33
Round time: 14:22
Starting up - 2015-11-17 (18:07:40)
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Starting up - 2015-11-17 (19:20:12)
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Starting up - 2015-11-17 (21:12:51)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 10. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:24
Starting up - 2015-11-17 (23:53:16)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 30
Round time: 13:21
Starting up - 2015-11-18 (01:24:35)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 7
Round time: 14:17
Starting up - 2015-11-18 (03:49:39)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:07
Starting up - 2015-11-18 (06:02:46)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 10
Round time: 13:03
Starting up - 2015-11-18 (07:10:11)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 11. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 15:04
Starting up - 2015-11-18 (10:23:53)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 4
Round time: 14:33
Starting up - 2015-11-18 (13:10:17)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 24
Round time: 14:13
Starting up - 2015-11-18 (15:41:20)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 15:03
Starting up - 2015-11-18 (19:12:57)
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Starting up - 2015-11-18 (20:19:31)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 24
Round time: 16:18
Starting up - 2015-11-19 (01:19:02)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 20. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:49
Starting up - 2015-11-19 (03:20:12)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 8. Humans remaining: 2
Round time: 13:58
Starting up - 2015-11-19 (05:30:46)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 13
Round time: 13:17
Starting up - 2015-11-19 (06:57:48)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 15
Round time: 13:39
Starting up - 2015-11-19 (08:41:04)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 1. Humans remaining: 11
Round time: 15:01
Starting up - 2015-11-19 (11:59:53)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 7. Humans remaining: 11
Round time: 14:41
Starting up - 2015-11-19 (15:00:48)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 9. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:44
Starting up - 2015-11-19 (16:59:24)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 6. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:47
Starting up - 2015-11-19 (20:22:30)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 10. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:28
Starting up - 2015-11-19 (23:20:51)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 9. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:11
Starting up - 2015-11-20 (01:45:04)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 14
Round time: 14:27
Starting up - 2015-11-20 (04:25:29)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 15
Round time: 14:21
Starting up - 2015-11-20 (06:56:32)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 9. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 15:19
Starting up - 2015-11-20 (10:36:41)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 32
Round time: 14:25
Starting up - 2015-11-20 (13:31:37)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 14. Humans remaining: 6
Round time: 14:33
Starting up - 2015-11-20 (16:24:00)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 32
Round time: 14:53
Starting up - 2015-11-20 (19:56:28)
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Starting up - 2015-11-20 (20:14:24)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 15:17
Starting up - 2015-11-21 (00:01:23)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 26
Round time: 14:27
Starting up - 2015-11-21 (02:44:22)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 29
Round time: 13:26
Starting up - 2015-11-21 (04:20:48)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 16. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:44
Starting up - 2015-11-21 (06:17:42)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 31
Round time: 14:57
Starting up - 2015-11-21 (09:38:14)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 57
Round time: 13:56
Starting up - 2015-11-21 (11:59:02)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 26
Round time: 14:18
Starting up - 2015-11-21 (14:57:23)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 21. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:48
Starting up - 2015-11-21 (17:16:28)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 31
Round time: 14:37
Starting up - 2015-11-21 (20:10:33)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 64
Round time: 14:16
Starting up - 2015-11-21 (23:01:13)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 23. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:53
Starting up - 2015-11-22 (01:23:44)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 15:45
Starting up - 2015-11-22 (05:33:45)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 10. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:45
Starting up - 2015-11-22 (07:28:57)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 12
Round time: 14:55
Starting up - 2015-11-22 (10:44:22)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 41
Round time: 14:27
Starting up - 2015-11-22 (13:42:43)
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Starting up - 2015-11-22 (15:27:40)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 3. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:39
Starting up - 2015-11-22 (18:36:16)
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Starting up - 2015-11-22 (21:16:41)
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Starting up - 2015-11-22 (21:23:31)
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Starting up - 2015-11-22 (21:29:29)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 13. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:15
Starting up - 2015-11-22 (22:56:32)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 11. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:18
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
I don't want to believe the facts. I truly don't.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
Counting only the results only from 12AM to 12PM inclusive, the aliens won 15 rounds, marines won 13. 10 rounds had no conclusive data (Forced restarts/server crashes I guess), which unfortunately means the data could end up being skewed one way or another very heavily, but there is most likely no way to check without population counts whenever a crash/restart occurs.
Just eyeing the population counts at the end of the round, when aliens win their population is in the ballpark of 7, while humans winning means their population varies anywhere from 13 to 60+, but is mostly in the 30+ range. Assuming station time starts at 12:00, marines tend to win around 14:00, while alien wins is sporadic but often upwards of 14:00.
I do not promise correctness, because I did this by hand and didn't write a program to do it for me.
Just eyeing the population counts at the end of the round, when aliens win their population is in the ballpark of 7, while humans winning means their population varies anywhere from 13 to 60+, but is mostly in the 30+ range. Assuming station time starts at 12:00, marines tend to win around 14:00, while alien wins is sporadic but often upwards of 14:00.
I do not promise correctness, because I did this by hand and didn't write a program to do it for me.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
perfect. so now we can finally stop fucking buffing and nerfing and all that bullshit.apophis775 wrote:WIN/LOSS RATIO FROM LAST 7 DAYS (not counting today):
30:30 Or also... 1:1
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Starting up - 2015-11-16 (00:58:59) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 9. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 14:23 Starting up - 2015-11-16 (03:33:26) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 14 Round time: 12:59 Starting up - 2015-11-16 (04:36:35) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 7. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 13:27 Starting up - 2015-11-16 (06:08:44) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 9 Round time: 12:24 Starting up - 2015-11-16 (06:36:03) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 9 Round time: 13:58 Starting up - 2015-11-16 (08:38:04) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 13 Round time: 14:57 Starting up - 2015-11-16 (11:44:06) --------------------- Starting up - 2015-11-16 (13:08:35) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 32 Round time: 13:10 Starting up - 2015-11-16 (14:24:32) --------------------- Starting up - 2015-11-16 (14:43:18) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 54 Round time: 13:03 Starting up - 2015-11-16 (16:00:06) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 22. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 13:32 Starting up - 2015-11-16 (17:58:43) --------------------- Alien minor victory (Evac) Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 1 Round time: 14:47 Starting up - 2015-11-16 (21:20:06) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 23 Round time: 14:17 Starting up - 2015-11-17 (00:01:23) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 16 Round time: 14:05 Starting up - 2015-11-17 (02:22:11) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 16. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 14:08 Starting up - 2015-11-17 (04:41:16) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 8. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 15:27 Starting up - 2015-11-17 (08:18:52) --------------------- Alien minor victory (Evac) Xenos Remaining: 8. Humans remaining: 11 Round time: 18:21 Starting up - 2015-11-17 (15:18:43) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 33 Round time: 14:22 Starting up - 2015-11-17 (18:07:40) --------------------- Starting up - 2015-11-17 (19:20:12) --------------------- Starting up - 2015-11-17 (21:12:51) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 10. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 14:24 Starting up - 2015-11-17 (23:53:16) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 30 Round time: 13:21 Starting up - 2015-11-18 (01:24:35) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 7 Round time: 14:17 Starting up - 2015-11-18 (03:49:39) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 14:07 Starting up - 2015-11-18 (06:02:46) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 10 Round time: 13:03 Starting up - 2015-11-18 (07:10:11) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 11. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 15:04 Starting up - 2015-11-18 (10:23:53) --------------------- Alien minor victory (Evac) Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 4 Round time: 14:33 Starting up - 2015-11-18 (13:10:17) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 24 Round time: 14:13 Starting up - 2015-11-18 (15:41:20) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 15:03 Starting up - 2015-11-18 (19:12:57) --------------------- Starting up - 2015-11-18 (20:19:31) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 24 Round time: 16:18 Starting up - 2015-11-19 (01:19:02) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 20. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 13:49 Starting up - 2015-11-19 (03:20:12) --------------------- Alien minor victory (Evac) Xenos Remaining: 8. Humans remaining: 2 Round time: 13:58 Starting up - 2015-11-19 (05:30:46) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 13 Round time: 13:17 Starting up - 2015-11-19 (06:57:48) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 15 Round time: 13:39 Starting up - 2015-11-19 (08:41:04) --------------------- Alien minor victory (Evac) Xenos Remaining: 1. Humans remaining: 11 Round time: 15:01 Starting up - 2015-11-19 (11:59:53) --------------------- Alien minor victory (Evac) Xenos Remaining: 7. Humans remaining: 11 Round time: 14:41 Starting up - 2015-11-19 (15:00:48) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 9. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 13:44 Starting up - 2015-11-19 (16:59:24) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 6. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 14:47 Starting up - 2015-11-19 (20:22:30) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 10. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 14:28 Starting up - 2015-11-19 (23:20:51) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 9. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 14:11 Starting up - 2015-11-20 (01:45:04) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 14 Round time: 14:27 Starting up - 2015-11-20 (04:25:29) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 15 Round time: 14:21 Starting up - 2015-11-20 (06:56:32) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 9. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 15:19 Starting up - 2015-11-20 (10:36:41) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 32 Round time: 14:25 Starting up - 2015-11-20 (13:31:37) --------------------- Alien minor victory (Evac) Xenos Remaining: 14. Humans remaining: 6 Round time: 14:33 Starting up - 2015-11-20 (16:24:00) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 32 Round time: 14:53 Starting up - 2015-11-20 (19:56:28) --------------------- Starting up - 2015-11-20 (20:14:24) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 15:17 Starting up - 2015-11-21 (00:01:23) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 26 Round time: 14:27 Starting up - 2015-11-21 (02:44:22) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 29 Round time: 13:26 Starting up - 2015-11-21 (04:20:48) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 16. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 13:44 Starting up - 2015-11-21 (06:17:42) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 31 Round time: 14:57 Starting up - 2015-11-21 (09:38:14) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 57 Round time: 13:56 Starting up - 2015-11-21 (11:59:02) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 26 Round time: 14:18 Starting up - 2015-11-21 (14:57:23) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 21. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 13:48 Starting up - 2015-11-21 (17:16:28) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 31 Round time: 14:37 Starting up - 2015-11-21 (20:10:33) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 64 Round time: 14:16 Starting up - 2015-11-21 (23:01:13) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 23. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 13:53 Starting up - 2015-11-22 (01:23:44) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 15:45 Starting up - 2015-11-22 (05:33:45) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 10. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 13:45 Starting up - 2015-11-22 (07:28:57) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 12 Round time: 14:55 Starting up - 2015-11-22 (10:44:22) --------------------- Marine major victory Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 41 Round time: 14:27 Starting up - 2015-11-22 (13:42:43) --------------------- Starting up - 2015-11-22 (15:27:40) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 3. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 14:39 Starting up - 2015-11-22 (18:36:16) --------------------- Starting up - 2015-11-22 (21:16:41) --------------------- Starting up - 2015-11-22 (21:23:31) --------------------- Starting up - 2015-11-22 (21:29:29) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 13. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 13:15 Starting up - 2015-11-22 (22:56:32) --------------------- Alien major victory Xenos Remaining: 11. Humans remaining: 0 Round time: 14:18
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
Wondering what the latest data is, I'm new so I had no idea what the buff/nerf history of these species are but on Sunday we got "24 hours" of data that showed 50/50 but the alien wins were exclusively from Midnight--->Noon while marines won exclusively from Noon---> Midnight.
Short answer, aliens stomp lowpop, marines stomp highpop. In some ways that "50/50" win loss is the worst kind of balance you can have since unless you're playing midpop around noon or midnight the results of every round seem pre-determined. Going up against 40 marines with 8 xenos or alternatively 10 marines v. 4 xenos doesn't even yield close rounds unless someone drastically screws up (or those 10 marines brought 3 SADAR's). Primetime was constantly 40-60 human survivors v. 0 xenos.
It provides some illusion of balance, apop was even showing these results off, but there are very real scaling issues. I hope the guaranteed larva burst helps (it was needed) but it might screw over lowpop marines even more when xenos can keep repop'ing for hours off monkey's larva.
Short answer, aliens stomp lowpop, marines stomp highpop. In some ways that "50/50" win loss is the worst kind of balance you can have since unless you're playing midpop around noon or midnight the results of every round seem pre-determined. Going up against 40 marines with 8 xenos or alternatively 10 marines v. 4 xenos doesn't even yield close rounds unless someone drastically screws up (or those 10 marines brought 3 SADAR's). Primetime was constantly 40-60 human survivors v. 0 xenos.
It provides some illusion of balance, apop was even showing these results off, but there are very real scaling issues. I hope the guaranteed larva burst helps (it was needed) but it might screw over lowpop marines even more when xenos can keep repop'ing for hours off monkey's larva.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
I mean... the only way that the lowpop/highpop divide can really be fixed is by forcing marine players into xeno roles, even if they have their preference disabled, so even numbers are kept.
And I'll be quitting for good if that happens.
And I'll be quitting for good if that happens.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
That explains why I saw nothing but marine major victories for several days. I tend to play noon to midnight, that's when I'm free, high pop hours where 60 marines absolutely stomp the ten or so Xeno's.
What I think would help this imbalance of numbers? We can't force people to be Xeno's. If we did they'd just ghost.
So... How about a passive xeno health buff that activates when the Xeno's are outnumbered by MORE than 4 marines to 1 Xeno? So when the 60 marines head down to the Hive the 10 Xeno's aren't absolutely obliterated. Or, if the Queen gained an ability to spawn NPC Xeno's en masse when they're severely outnumbered. I think it could be somewhat more balancing during the high pop hours.
What I think would help this imbalance of numbers? We can't force people to be Xeno's. If we did they'd just ghost.
So... How about a passive xeno health buff that activates when the Xeno's are outnumbered by MORE than 4 marines to 1 Xeno? So when the 60 marines head down to the Hive the 10 Xeno's aren't absolutely obliterated. Or, if the Queen gained an ability to spawn NPC Xeno's en masse when they're severely outnumbered. I think it could be somewhat more balancing during the high pop hours.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
CURRENT RATIO: 31 Marine to 32 Alien. I do admit, the aliens tend to to better at night, and the marines during the day/highpop.
REBALANCING CAN BE DISCUSSED HERE.
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REBALANCING CAN BE DISCUSSED HERE.
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Starting up - 2015-12-08 (00:29:58)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 28
Round time: 14:16
Starting up - 2015-12-08 (03:01:00)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 15
Round time: 12:11
Starting up - 2015-12-08 (03:14:40)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 6
Round time: 12:12
Starting up - 2015-12-08 (03:29:10)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 13
Round time: 14:02
Starting up - 2015-12-08 (05:38:52)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 10. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:36
Starting up - 2015-12-08 (07:22:59)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 3. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:32
Starting up - 2015-12-08 (10:08:32)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 15. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:32
Starting up - 2015-12-08 (11:54:20)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 27. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:50
Starting up - 2015-12-08 (14:07:28)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 33
Round time: 13:05
Starting up - 2015-12-08 (15:25:58)
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Starting up - 2015-12-08 (20:35:44)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 33
Round time: 13:56
Starting up - 2015-12-08 (22:42:52)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 32
Round time: 14:17
Starting up - 2015-12-09 (01:17:20)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 27
Round time: 13:20
Starting up - 2015-12-09 (02:48:38)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 1. Humans remaining: 2
Round time: 14:38
Starting up - 2015-12-09 (05:39:18)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:53
Starting up - 2015-12-09 (07:37:55)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 13. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:52
Starting up - 2015-12-09 (09:35:40)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 14. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 14:08
Starting up - 2015-12-09 (11:56:28)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 19. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 15:19
Starting up - 2015-12-09 (15:46:01)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 48
Round time: 14:13
Starting up - 2015-12-09 (18:24:44)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 12. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 15:16
Starting up - 2015-12-09 (22:25:23)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 29
Round time: 13:40
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (00:18:01)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 11. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:45
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (02:12:22)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:41
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (04:00:44)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 10
Round time: 12:13
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (04:16:06)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 4. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:23
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (05:43:08)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 1. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 12:03
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (05:48:16)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 1
Round time: 12:43
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (06:34:20)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 22
Round time: 17:15
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (12:08:51)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 28
Round time: 15:03
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (15:34:30)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 36
Round time: 14:17
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (18:13:13)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 16
Round time: 15:15
Starting up - 2015-12-10 (22:12:09)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 15. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:42
Starting up - 2015-12-11 (00:09:04)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 7. Humans remaining: 7
Round time: 15:09
Starting up - 2015-12-11 (03:37:16)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 16:27
Starting up - 2015-12-11 (08:24:00)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 1. Humans remaining: 8
Round time: 16:06
Starting up - 2015-12-11 (12:57:04)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 19
Round time: 14:19
Starting up - 2015-12-11 (15:30:40)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 10. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 15:17
Starting up - 2015-12-11 (19:18:30)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 45
Round time: 13:36
Starting up - 2015-12-11 (21:15:24)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 30. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:28
Starting up - 2015-12-11 (23:02:56)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 2. Humans remaining: 3
Round time: 14:30
Starting up - 2015-12-12 (02:02:59)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 15
Round time: 14:07
Starting up - 2015-12-12 (04:22:56)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 8. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:46
Starting up - 2015-12-12 (06:18:59)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 24
Round time: 15:18
Starting up - 2015-12-12 (09:49:45)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 47
Round time: 13:38
Starting up - 2015-12-12 (11:40:41)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 33
Round time: 14:14
Starting up - 2015-12-12 (14:18:33)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 37
Round time: 14:25
Starting up - 2015-12-12 (17:22:01)
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Starting up - 2015-12-12 (17:55:18)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 24
Round time: 15:05
Starting up - 2015-12-12 (21:32:54)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 1. Humans remaining: 24
Round time: 15:42
Starting up - 2015-12-13 (01:54:01)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 25
Round time: 15:48
Starting up - 2015-12-13 (06:11:44)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 13
Round time: 14:14
Starting up - 2015-12-13 (08:42:46)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 27
Round time: 14:24
Starting up - 2015-12-13 (11:36:00)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 10. Humans remaining: 4
Round time: 14:13
Starting up - 2015-12-13 (14:13:52)
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Starting up - 2015-12-13 (14:49:42)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 40
Round time: 15:15
Starting up - 2015-12-13 (18:54:36)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 14. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 15:04
Starting up - 2015-12-13 (22:25:23)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 4. Humans remaining: 20
Round time: 14:05
Starting up - 2015-12-14 (00:52:09)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 11. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:06
Starting up - 2015-12-14 (02:10:40)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 8. Humans remaining: 9
Round time: 14:25
Starting up - 2015-12-14 (04:51:05)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 7. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:37
Starting up - 2015-12-14 (06:40:19)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 16
Round time: 12:58
Starting up - 2015-12-14 (07:44:19)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 18. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 13:20
Starting up - 2015-12-14 (09:29:16)
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Alien minor victory (Evac)
Xenos Remaining: 5. Humans remaining: 12
Round time: 14:28
Starting up - 2015-12-14 (12:13:58)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 28
Round time: 16:06
Starting up - 2015-12-14 (16:54:43)
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Marine major victory
Xenos Remaining: 0. Humans remaining: 52
Round time: 13:32
Starting up - 2015-12-14 (18:51:37)
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Alien major victory
Xenos Remaining: 9. Humans remaining: 0
Round time: 16:26
- Telegnats
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
More data crunching, this time with a program to do it for me.
Total Marine Victories for Given Data... 31
Total Marine Victories In time slot(24hr clock) 16 to 22 (Inclusive)... 7
Average Marine Population count at round end(All times)... 26
Total Xeno Victories for Given Data... 32
Total Xeno Victories In time slot(24hr clock) 16 to 22 (Inclusive)... 7
Average Xeno Population count at round end(All times)... 9
Total Marine Victories for Given Data... 31
Total Marine Victories In time slot(24hr clock) 16 to 22 (Inclusive)... 7
Average Marine Population count at round end(All times)... 26
Total Xeno Victories for Given Data... 32
Total Xeno Victories In time slot(24hr clock) 16 to 22 (Inclusive)... 7
Average Xeno Population count at round end(All times)... 9
- Caryl
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
Wouldn't something that would make the marines send people down to the planet balance things out?
"No marines have been detected on the planet, the mission is not being handled by the marines... If there aren't at least five marine vitals found on the planet the Sulaco will exit the planet's orbit and this mission will be considered a failure!"
Scans should be two minute intervals...
"No marines have been detected on the planet, the mission is not being handled by the marines... If there aren't at least five marine vitals found on the planet the Sulaco will exit the planet's orbit and this mission will be considered a failure!"
Scans should be two minute intervals...
- WyattH
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
Caryl wrote:Wouldn't something that would make the marines send people down to the planet balance things out?
"No marines have been detected on the planet, the mission is not being handled by the marines... If there aren't at least five marine vitals found on the planet the Sulaco will exit the planet's orbit and this mission will be considered a failure!"
Scans should be two minute intervals...
The rounds would end on roundstart before marines are able to get down as well as every low-pop round would be a marine loss.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
I think that is the wrong way to go; we shouldn't be punishing marines for not staying in there. Rather, we should actually GIVE THEM A REASON to stay there. I mean, except because we meta-know that the round is only going to end when either side is annihilated (or the shuttle departs), marines have no fucking reason to stay on LV-624 after survivors are rescued (or presumed dead). Literally no reason at all.Caryl wrote:Wouldn't something that would make the marines send people down to the planet balance things out?
"No marines have been detected on the planet, the mission is not being handled by the marines... If there aren't at least five marine vitals found on the planet the Sulaco will exit the planet's orbit and this mission will be considered a failure!"
Scans should be two minute intervals...
What is this "mission" you speak of? I honestly have no idea.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
damn they one a single more round, no margin of error here. fuck that shit, NERF EVERYTHING
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
Yep. Somewhat sad to see the guys in charge of balancing the game fretting over a 20% greater win ratio in a particular week.Sadokist wrote:damn they one a single more round, no margin of error here. fuck that shit, NERF EVERYTHING
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
you mean 3% greater in that week (31 marines, 32 aliens)AssassinT90 wrote: Yep. Somewhat sad to see the guys in charge of balancing the game fretting over a 20% greater win ratio in a particular week.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
I was actually speaking in general terms. I don't think that some week's ratio of 1.2:1 is cause to worry. A year's ratio being 1.2:1 IS cause to worry.Sadokist wrote:you mean 3% greater in that week (31 marines, 32 aliens)
Meaning that people should stop trying to mess around with numbers just because a particular week's ratio was 25:30.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
we'll never do a year's ratio calculation. Best I'll do, is a "month" and that would take an EXTREME amount of time to calculate.
Oh, and I'll have the "updates" in a day or so.
Oh, and I'll have the "updates" in a day or so.
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Re: Current Alien/Marine victory ratio over ~1 week
I thought it was balanced so marines win the majority of the time? The majority of the dev team+admins play marines almost exclusively and looking at the change log just screams "Play marines unless you are a masochist"
As an exclusive marine player I enjoy mindless firing down a hallway with my giant magazine and killing hapless aliens in 2-3 good hits. The server is named Colonial Marines not Ayyliens. So I see the massive marine favoritism as a plus.
As an exclusive marine player I enjoy mindless firing down a hallway with my giant magazine and killing hapless aliens in 2-3 good hits. The server is named Colonial Marines not Ayyliens. So I see the massive marine favoritism as a plus.