Melee Marine Specialist?

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Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by bustered1 » 22 Sep 2015, 21:00

I see the melee specialist as a front runner tank. I'd say he'd be the meat shield. He'd be able to soak up huggers and a good amount of hits. It'd give the marines a little bit more of a chance if there's one in each squad if they're going off into the caves. No one wants to be at the front of the lines because the moment you cross that corner, HUG, disarm, nest. I know because I've done it so much as an alien.

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-Armor: 75% chance not being knocked down, 20% quicker get up rate.
-Helmet: 75% chance to deflect huggers, can take up to -5- successful hits. (Huggers don't die on contact like the SL's helmet instead they get knocked off like when a runner throws a hugger and fails.)
That way the helmets can be ruined and it's not so overly powerful.

As a marine it's always terrifying going out into the jungle alone, you can't even send a successful patrol with just 3 people because you will be hunted down by 1 or 2 aliens if the aliens are good.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by apophis775 » 22 Sep 2015, 21:01

Is this a suggestion?

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by bustered1 » 22 Sep 2015, 21:02

I'd like it to be, but suggestions are closed right?

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by apophis775 » 22 Sep 2015, 21:11

Correct. Because I have too many to go through, and people would constantly dump more and more useless ones in.

Out of the 200ish i went thrugh, I denied around 190.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by bustered1 » 22 Sep 2015, 21:17

Would this one be considered useless? I think it could maybe balance marines a little more, but so far it hasn't been getting the best of reviews. It could most definitely be refined I just think there should be a tankier marine that would actually go to the front lines.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by snow5445 » 22 Sep 2015, 21:21

I like the idea of a mele fighter at some point. But now i think it's kinda pointless against xeno's. though more mele weapons would be nice that are not just a reskined knife.
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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by apophis775 » 22 Sep 2015, 21:30

Personally, we'd never make a melee marine. I mean, even melee attacking the aliens, damages the marines.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by bustered1 » 22 Sep 2015, 21:35

Aw, I thought it'd be cool. I've never melee'd an alien to know that it affected me negatively, but it would make sense considering the alien's blood IS acid.

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Post by apophis775 » 22 Sep 2015, 21:38

Pretty much. This would be a "slowly kill yourself" job.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 22 Sep 2015, 23:44

I love the idea for a melee specialist, but it doesn't fit with the USCM in the slightest. They're a military unit.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by Aeleto » 23 Sep 2015, 00:13

Doesn't the B18 armour already fit this role, though. With enough chems and the full set you become an unstoppable, close-range marine. Hell, even more than a pred.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by WyattH » 23 Sep 2015, 00:13

B18 + riotshield + dermaline/stims = melee fighter

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Post by Jack McIntyre » 23 Sep 2015, 01:05

Still would have to agree no, if you want to be melee then just get good with the knife and/or put a bayonent on your rifle. I have gotten pretty decent with the marine combat knife when I am caught in the hive...usually get pissed off xenos who either have all their xenos in the hive come after me because I keep running and stabbing, have gotten a few kills of xenos in the hive with my knife, but I digress. It takes a bit of time, but I think most people are fine with the knife, fire ax, alien blade, whatever the hell your preference is if you get better with it. Just practice a bit and I think you won't be disappointed with just using a knife. Don't need special armor, hell i usually just have a marine soft cover on, not even using a helmet and I usually can get at least get one knife kill depending on the round. But Apop is right, you have a chance that while you are attacking with a melee, that the alien will shoot acid into your face.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by 1262 » 23 Sep 2015, 07:36

-1 not only because it doesn't really fit the theme of USCM but also because it's completely useless during an offensive and there's already a problem with marines being more suited towards defensive play. What makes it so useless during marine attacks? It gets in the line of fire for your entire squad. Besides, most aliens would probably be capable of outrunning said specialist and just spam them with facehuggers.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by Arachnidnexus » 23 Sep 2015, 10:18

The whole concept of a marine going 1v1 with a xeno in melee combat bothers me on a lore level. The marines' advantage is ranged weaponry and smarts and it should stay that way.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by bustered1 » 23 Sep 2015, 11:27

I think it'd be more like being able to withstand the alien's claws more efficiently. Not like a predator being able to do massive damage melee, but you're right the marines should be more focused around range attacks. It was an idea that could maybe bring some balance and marines actually leaving to secure the whole colony not just the main nexus. Imagine where the marines have taken over Hydroponics, Medbay, telecoms, engineering, internal affairs, all the other domes. It was really fun when I was Alpha Squad Leader and we had pushed up through medbay and it felt like we were getting somewhere. It would be fun for the aliens as well because the marines would be more spread out and the sieges wouldn't last hella long.

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Re: Melee Marine Specialist?

Post by apophis775 » 23 Sep 2015, 15:24

YEah, if this was in teh suggestions forum, I'd deny it, so I'll just lock this.

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