WHY DO PREDATORS HUNT ONLY THE ALIENS

[outordinary]

Ok usually I'm calm and collected, but just about every Time there are predators, they go after Aliens no matter what the odds are. I've had this happen about four times any time there is a predator. I don't care if you swear by playing marine with your friends, pick a different playstyle other than "kill all the xenos". The problem is you are not a Marine, you are a hunter, hunt whatever is the most dangerous game at the time. I don't care if their bullets hurt your bones, man up.

There is something wrong when you now have 6 active aliens including the queen and the marine side has suffered little to no losses. You are hurting the gameplay by doing this, what fun is there if the entire xeno side is holed up in there hive because a pred is killing everything on your side while the other side continuously has people joining in. The last round I played in we had no marines nested, the ones fighting out on the front are getting killed by marines while the ones in the back are getting killed by predators. There is lore supporting fighting both sides or whoever is strongest, do so. When called out on your bullshit, don't just respond with "Oh im an admin, i play how I want". Yes it will end the argument because I see you won't listen to your damn playerbase. Nobody puts something about it because they just deal with it.

It is a problem and needs to be fixed.

[Azmodan412]

The Yautja are THERE for the Xenomorphs. The humans are varied on the spectrum: Honorable fighters to prey just like the xenos.

[Gentlefood]

The predators attack marines pretty often. And ultimately Predators are there to /hunt/ the xenomorphs. Also salt post is salty.

[Wesmas]

I think you should have calmed down and not written this while annoyed. I can see where the frustration is comming from, but posting it while being Lord Salt of Salty Valley makes your argument seem less reasnoble.

[Feweh]

That awkward moment when you make a complaint and havent read any lore about CM or Predators.


As everyone stated above though, xenos are the primary target.

[Stivan34]

Predators are there for the aliens, They are the predators ultimate prey.

[Wickedtemp]

Because the game is "Destroy all Xenos" now. That's why players aren't choosing alien, the odds are stacked against them almost every round. Every time it's brought up that the game is no longer all that fun as an alien for some people, it's met with "lol Y so salty?" and "git gud", and most annoyingly "It's Colonial MARINES. The Xenos are SUPPOSED to lose."

It's almost like there's a group of people that, for some reason, actually believe that the Xenos shouldn't ever win, and they're willing to be complete dicks in order to ensure its a Marine Major Victory. Xeno nerfs disguised as "improvements", designed to curb-stomp an already losing team, people outright refusing to ever play as a xeno due to meta-friending, etc.

And I get it, in the movie Aliens the marines were able to kill them all. So you might say that "Marine X killed a xeno with a few bullets in the movie." yeah, well in the movie, they ACTUALLY were supposed to lose. And there were also like a hundred Xenos against ten or so marines, so the aliens had the advantage of numbers and speed.

But here? Numbers, speed, armor and sheer damage-per-second, all go to the marines. So Xenos had to rely on hugger stuns and checker-nests for a better chance. Yeah, I know, it sucks. But that's the way it is, because if aliens didn't have those things, they'd be losing even more than they are now.

And then the issue shows up again, when Preds exclusively go after Xenos and its defended blindly without realizing the consequences.

It ruins the game for the other team.

The Preds in question don't want to make the game fun, they don't want to contribute anything, they want to WIN. They want to get a high kill count and brag about how they solo'd the Queen in OOC for two or three minutes until the next round starts.

That's why they go after Xenos. Because it's the easy target.

[GGgobbleCC]

Majority of predator players are also heavy marine players, and guess who they prefer to hunt? No their meta-buddies playing marines but the ehhvhuul aliens.

Not to mention aliens are basically made of craft paper and glue so they are easy kills for any skill-level pred player where hunting marines is infinitely harder.

[Feweh]

As a Predator and I think I speak for most of the others as well... it is A LOT more fun to hunt Marines, trust me.


No one prefers hunting aliens, its just a tackle spamfest.

[outordinary]

The Yautja are THERE for the Xenomorphs. The humans are varied on the spectrum: Honorable fighters to prey just like the xenos.

Glad there is at least one being civil, ok so they are here for xenomorphs. Can still agree that while CM is based off of the Aliens 1986 movie with predators added to it, not everything is the way it is in the movies on here. The aliens on this server aren't exactly ultimate killing machines, especially during the time when the server is in that transition time around 3pm eastern when kids are released from school and hop on to CM. You have about 40-60 players with about 10 or less as aliens. With all the recent balancing additives which take most of the fear away from xenos to the extend that marines even chase them if they run away, we can agree this isn't a copy of the movies. Both sides on the server are equally worthy prey to fight. If the server were structured exactly like the movies, one side would be stronger.

Also, I apologize for my first post, but it doesn't mean I don't have a point. In a round with predators I am spending hours sitting in a hive because I know the second I step outside, I have to worry about predators while im hunting marines. Not to mention all the gear predators have is made to nullify everything I throw at them.

[Azmodan412]

Glad there is at least one being civil, ok so they are here for xenomorphs. Can still agree that while CM is based off of the Aliens 1986 movie with predators added to it, not everything is the way it is in the movies on here. The aliens on this server aren't exactly ultimate killing machines, especially during the time when the server is in that transition time around 3pm eastern when kids are released from school and hop on to CM. You have about 40-60 players with about 10 or less as aliens. With all the recent balancing additives which take most of the fear away from xenos to the extend that marines even chase them if they run away, we can agree this isn't a copy of the movies. Both sides on the server are equally worthy prey to fight. If the server were structured exactly like the movies, one side would be stronger.

Also, I apologize for my first post, but it doesn't mean I don't have a point. In a round with predators I am spending hours sitting in a hive because I know the second I step outside, I have to worry about predators while im hunting marines. Not to mention all the gear predators have is made to nullify everything I throw at them.

As was theorized, the Yautja seeded LV-624 as a breeding ground for the Serpents, a hunt in the making. The marines showing up was just a hitch in the plan of returning when the xenos were considered worthy prey. Larva aren't, but anything more is. Ideally, Predators hunt xenos, marines try to protect their innocent mouths from being raped by facehuggers, marines fuck up and shoot a Predator, Predator considers the marines as worthy prey with a mixture of anger/revenge/interest. As with the recent slew of Alien Majors, I'd say one side is progressively stronger.

Edit: The seeding fits with lore as the Yautja would seed planets with xenomorph eggs/larva in order to continue the Hunt.

[Wesmas]

Glad there is at least one being civil, ok so they are here for xenomorphs. Can still agree that while CM is based off of the Aliens 1986 movie with predators added to it, not everything is the way it is in the movies on here. The aliens on this server aren't exactly ultimate killing machines, especially during the time when the server is in that transition time around 3pm eastern when kids are released from school and hop on to CM. You have about 40-60 players with about 10 or less as aliens. With all the recent balancing additives which take most of the fear away from xenos to the extend that marines even chase them if they run away, we can agree this isn't a copy of the movies. Both sides on the server are equally worthy prey to fight. If the server were structured exactly like the movies, one side would be stronger.

Also, I apologize for my first post, but it doesn't mean I don't have a point. In a round with predators I am spending hours sitting in a hive because I know the second I step outside, I have to worry about predators while im hunting marines. Not to mention all the gear predators have is made to nullify everything I throw at them.

You are supposed to fear them. At the end of the day, the Predators should try and make death interesting, but they are there to terrorfy everyone. Lore wise, there things seem to be geared towards fighting Xenos, because its who they fight to prove themselfs.

[forwardslashN]

Predators primarily hunt xenomorphs. I've also seen marines fighting yautja just about every time predators show up, so I think you're just not seeing everything they're doing while playing xenomorph.

[outordinary]

....As with the recent slew of Alien Majors, I'd say one side is progressively stronger.

Now look, not that I'm trying to say fuck the lore, but not everything fits in the server. Not everything for xenos, not everything for marines, and definitely some things should change for predators. Why you ask, because everything else isn't the same as the lore/movie. As for the recent slew of Alien Majors you say, that doesn't mean one side is balanced. As I'm sure you know, the alien side usually has select players that turn their prefs on whenever they play. On Highpop hours, you have more going marine than alien. Since bursting is changed so only people who have xeno toggled can burst from their own body, still more on marine side. I play alien almost exclusively and try different tactics and such, eventually I will get better no matter who is on the team. Not to mention if one side is seeing a tactic that works, they will do it again. That helps to produce a steady rate of wins. That tactic may or may not be fair, but its the tactic that works, doesn't change that your side is weak.

Predators primarily hunt xenomorphs. I've also seen marines fighting yautja just about every time predators show up, so I think you're just not seeing everything they're doing while playing xenomorph.

I can see it when about 3/4 of the xeno side is dead and I can roam around in deadchat. At that time I see them start to attack the opposition. Should I instead just observe, follow and record the predator gameplay the whole round to show it murdering the entire xenomorph side and sprinkling some marines in? Yeah a few will die until about 3/4 of xeno team is dead then they attack marines. My argument isn't that we are innocent monkeys and stoks roaming the planet and we shouldn't be hunted, its that there is still a team vs team thing going on and one is singled out by a third party to the point where one side is crippled.

[forwardslashN]

I can see it when about 3/4 of the xeno side is dead and I can roam around in deadchat. At that time I see them start to attack the opposition. Should I instead just observe, follow and record the predator gameplay the whole round to show it murdering the entire xenomorph side and sprinkling some marines in? Yeah a few will die until about 3/4 of xeno team is dead then they attack marines. My argument isn't that we are innocent monkeys and stoks roaming the planet and we shouldn't be hunted, its that there is still a team vs team thing going on and one is singled out by a third party to the point where one side is crippled.

But that's what they are supposed to do. Each predator has their own thing that they like to do, since they are not all the same, but they all hunt xenomorphs for sport. CM is an RP server, not just a team deathmatch game. Not to mention predators are not likely to appear during a round to begin with, or anywhere but the planet. If anything, you should see the opportunity to fight a predator as a test of your xeno skill--I know I do.

I've seen everything from predators hunting humans, recognizing their skill, and giving them boons, to some marines going hot on a predator, leading it to slaughter entire squads. A predator recently charged the FOB, was gunned down, and took down five marines in the resulting self-detonation.

[outordinary]

If anything, you should see the opportunity to fight a predator as a test of your xeno skill--I know I do.

One on one? Any xeno other than a rav would be decimated. Its like fighting one as a marine using a knife only. As a xeno the sure fire way to take one down is to hope there is enough T2-T3 xeno players around for it to get triple teamed otherwise you just waste your life. Even the ravs get decimated.

I know CM is a roleplay server, but its light-medium roleplay even if you want it to be medium roleplay. Usually once marines get planetside it switches to light.

[forwardslashN]

Crusher crushers all. That is all I have to say.

[Egorkor]

Yeah well, I didn't read all of the thread, only saw the bitching alien players so I instantly scrolled down and here's what I'm gonna say - first, you created a thread based on the round that's currently going on, second, xenos are the primary targets because of the lore, third, predator players understand that and they do not eliminate the entire hive unless they rush them on purpose like in a round a coupla days ago, there's even a rule in the code o' honor that says to not eradicate the race completely, fourth, predators also hunt marines but that depends on how much marines fuck up and show off as being dishonorable, then it's done en masse with the casters and all that shite, or they fight a single marine that has accepted the challenge with honor, and therefore that doesn't make much of an impact on the round and mostly goes unnoticed unless the marines jump onto the pred's shit - and that is based on my small experience as a hound.
Also, it seems that you two or three people who bitch and moan here had stopped playing aliens, well lemme tell you that, aliens are much more tanky now so the ratio is slowly weighing toward the alien victories again - cram it the fuck up and either play and adapt, or stop moaning.

[GGgobbleCC]

Crusher crushers all. That is all I have to say.

The only people who think crushers are an issue are shitty marines

[Egorkor]

The only people who think crushers are an issue are shitty marines

counterpoint - the only people think that alien strength is an issue now are shitty aliens :^)

[SASoperative]

Oh great more salt. I can understand if your coming at this from a different approach but I can just tell by how your writing that your pissed. So come back with a new attitude. Being a predator I can tell you right now I have not attacked aliens until they attack me and guess what, When they throw their entire hive at a single predator and than get salty that they all died they have no reason to be mad. They brought it on themselves. Predators normally stay out of the hive and down near the Central Barrens the colony and the jungle. The only reason you have any reason to die from one period half the time is if your by yourself. This is coming from one of the first pred whitelists and from someone who monitors them constantly to make sure they do not break honor code.

Come back with a attitude and this will be nonexistent I came here to explain something and I won't take backtalk or any moody ass responds very well. If your pissed at something I understand but don't take it out on everyone else.

[Peachy2912]

Yeah well, I didn't read all of the thread, only saw the bitching alien players so I instantly scrolled down and here's what I'm gonna say - first, you created a thread based on the round that's currently going on, second, xenos are the primary targets because of the lore, third, predator players understand that and they do not eliminate the entire hive unless they rush them on purpose like in a round a coupla days ago, there's even a rule in the code o' honor that says to not eradicate the race completely, fourth, predators also hunt marines but that depends on how much marines fuck up and show off as being dishonorable, then it's done en masse with the casters and all that shite, or they fight a single marine that has accepted the challenge with honor, and therefore that doesn't make much of an impact on the round and mostly goes unnoticed unless the marines jump onto the pred's shit - and that is based on my small experience as a hound.
Also, it seems that you two or three people who bitch and moan here had stopped playing aliens, well lemme tell you that, aliens are much more tanky now so the ratio is slowly weighing toward the alien victories again - cram it the fuck up and either play and adapt, or stop moaning.

Regardless of opinions it would be nice if everyone could remain somewhat civil.

I have played a number of rounds as a Xeno over the past number of days, while none of them had Predators in them, I do believe this post is perhaps showing a gradual change in how the Xeno side is played. Whether this is a good or a bad thing is up for you to decide personally.

From what I've witnessed and experienced I can tell you that playing a Xeno is difficult. I've had to try and play smarter than I ever have done while playing Xeno and still managed to be a part of the major victories that have been occurring for the Xenos. Rather than taking this as a sign that either side needs to be Buffed or Nerfed, I believe it shows how close the balance between the two sides is.

The outcome of a round now comes down to which side plays smart and which side has the most experienced players with them.

However, I think the problem runs a bit deeper than just a bad round where it felt as if the Xenos where being hunted mercilessly by a Predator. The Xenos lack of numbers generally makes life difficult, but it is possible to win, as has been proven over the past number of days. The lack of coordination and communication that is prevalent in most rounds on the marine side is why, in my opinion, rounds are lost by the marines.

If either side somehow manages to offset their, lets call them handicaps, then it leads to a perceived feeling by one side that the other is overpowered. For example, if the Xeno teams lack of numbers is offset by experienced and robust Xeno players, then that can have a huge impact on how effective that team is. Likewise, if the marine side has some competent command staff or SL's, the marine team's usual lack of communication becomes less of an issue and a marine victory is more likely.

However, throw in a third party, in the form a of a predator, it can make the round change drastically as they are very powerful in their own right. This is how I believe it should be. Due to the immense sway that the predators hold over the outcome of a round it is important that they are restricted and vetted accordingly, hence the white list.

That being said, perhaps more needs to be done to prevent a predator from swaying a round too far in a specific factions direction. Perhaps.

Either way, the balance has never been more equal in my opinion, both sides have the ability to win, and to lose. The players are what make a team now, rather than objects they wield, which I take as a step in the right direction.

[outordinary]

Yeah well, I didn't read all of the thread, only saw the bitching alien players so I instantly scrolled down and here's what I'm gonna say - first, you created a thread based on the round that's currently going on, second, xenos are the primary targets because of the lore, third, predator players understand that and they do not eliminate the entire hive unless they rush them on purpose like in a round a coupla days ago, there's even a rule in the code o' honor that says to not eradicate the race completely, fourth, predators also hunt marines but that depends on how much marines fuck up and show off as being dishonorable, then it's done en masse with the casters and all that shite, or they fight a single marine that has accepted the challenge with honor, and therefore that doesn't make much of an impact on the round and mostly goes unnoticed unless the marines jump onto the pred's shit - and that is based on my small experience as a hound.
Also, it seems that you two or three people who bitch and moan here had stopped playing aliens, well lemme tell you that, aliens are much more tanky now so the ratio is slowly weighing toward the alien victories again - cram it the fuck up and either play and adapt, or stop moaning.

You seem like you are posting just to troll. I never stopped playing aliens. As I said I almost always play alien, If you think they are tanky now, you weren't here when most castes could take out entire squads. Nowadays health pool is weaker, dodge rate is the same and marine weapon damage rates are buffed with plenty of new toys to use. As I said the victories come from good tactics and bouts of strong teamwork. My post is based off of about 4 different rounds, stop trying to start shit. The "salt" is gone, nothing but a General Discussion. Also preds are definitely eradicating the race when the majority of the larva gathered from the wildlife is gone. It may not be completely, but its enough for the other side to clean up the T1 scraps.

Being a predator I can tell you right now I have not attacked aliens until they attack me . . . This is coming from one of the first pred whitelists

Great. I'm sure you follow it pretty well being the first. The rounds in question are probably the ones with Abby and jones. About not attacking them until they attack you, maybe something should be added to change the mindset of "Oh there is a pred, lets gank it" even though I just ignore predators. Most of my interaction has been being a random focused on fighting marines xeno. Sometimes im in the defense castes or support running outside to help in other ways. I'm not out there to fight preds, so if some other caste with random trigger happy xeno 5278 attacks him now I'm a target. The current mindset for the other xenos is usually attack anything they find. The whole hive isn't out for the predator, they have to spread the hive.

The only reason you have any reason to die from one period half the time is if your by yourself.

Even when you are with a few other aliens sometimes it isn't enough. Sometimes there isn't enough of a xeno pop to have 3-4 with you. Not to mention any player is going to avoid a large party group. Even a predator.

[Egorkor]

Well I apologise for that, but I've been playing constantly and I've been for a xeno buff because xenos were getting wrecked hard, and they were buffed, they're more tanky and the crusher is more OP now, for example, the "loadsa AFK larva" problem is not that common as it used to be, aliens have started to win more, on lowpop too. And yet, when I come to the forums there're still these "X are marine players, bias11!!, Y are marine players, bias1!1!!" posts and threads like these, and all that kinda shite - it's just making a bad impression and makes me personally think that people that post nothing but that, and don't suggest anything are just bitching for the sake of it.
also edit - first, I urge you to not pull the "you weren't there when X happened", second, you and Peachy mentioend that victories come from "playing smart" and "having good tactics and teamwork". That's how victories are supposed to be achieved, no? Right now, imo, it takes effort to win for both xenos and marines, what, that's not good enough for ye, or do you prefer aliens mindlessly rushing and huggerspamming, or marines rushing the hives 30 minutes in?

[apophis775]

Press can hunt who/what they want, provided that it fits into our rules (which are being published as adjusted soon)