Should you aim for the groin instead of chest?

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Should you aim for the groin instead of chest?

Post by spheretech » 03 Apr 2016, 17:13

So let's say you get a bone fracture in your groin or chest. You start moving and take organ damage.

Chest = heart, lung, liver damage

Groin = damaged kidneys

I've never been shot in the groin, but I think you take toxin damage over time.
It may kill you, but having a chest fracture and moving around jumbles all your organs and gets you into red health pretty fast.
Kidney damage on the other hand takes time to work, so would this give you some more time to kick ass and get yourself to safety?
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Post by Halinder » 03 Apr 2016, 20:25

In my experience, the groin seems to break bones much easier, and toxins pile faster than dylovene can take care of them. With heart/lung/liver damage, you can at least counter it with dexalin without the damage becoming ridiculous.
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Post by Derpislav » 03 Apr 2016, 20:41

Dexalin plus can be made at bulk by even quarter-competent doctors and will keep you walking for hours. If doctors are dumb, though, and there are no medics in sight - groin damage won't take you out of the fight that fast. It will take you out for good, even if a medic gets to you, though.
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Post by Wickedtemp » 03 Apr 2016, 21:27

Bay-med can, when utilized correctly, can save you from pretty much anything. Even with the OD's on Dylovene and Tricord, you CAN be saved.

As for groin vs chest, kidney/appendix trauma is much easier to heal via surgery since you don't need to use the bone saw. So if you get to Medbay, you should be perfectly fine as long as the doctors are even half competent.

But that's the kicker. Medics have very few tools at their disposal to actually handle toxins, limited to tricordrazine, dylovene, and cryo. Of course, tea and doctors delight work as well, but you're not like to get either of those. However if you actually know what you're doing, the only reason you should lose a patient in Medbay is if a xeno pops out.

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Re: Should you aim for the groin instead of chest?

Post by username123 » 04 Apr 2016, 17:54

Aim for legs, if you ff, at worst, the person will have internal bleeding, a broken leg and brute damage that can be fixed with bandages and heal meds, quick cloth and splints. You can't splint the groin, chest or head (which in the code, reduces a lot of pain for the character) and if you have hyperzine, the person will move like if the leg is perfectly fine.

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Post by RoswellRay » 04 Apr 2016, 18:11

username123 wrote:Aim for legs, if you ff, at worst, the person will have internal bleeding, a broken leg and brute damage that can be fixed with bandages and heal meds, quick cloth and splints. You can't splint the groin, chest or head (which in the code, reduces a lot of pain for the character) and if you have hyperzine, the person will move like if the leg is perfectly fine.
Aiming for the legs will make you much less accurate when firing in general,so good luck dealing damage to xenos. On top of that, I donèt think the standard marines legs are armoured and if they are, not as much as the chest.

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Post by LordeKilly » 04 Apr 2016, 18:15

You don't shoot people in the dick. That's a dick move dude.
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Post by username123 » 04 Apr 2016, 18:48

RoswellRay wrote: Aiming for the legs will make you much less accurate when firing in general,so good luck dealing damage to xenos. On top of that, I donèt think the standard marines legs are armoured and if they are, not as much as the chest.
Thats not how things work in the game, aiming for any part of the body give you the same accuracy (in terms of if the bullet hits the body or not), but when a bullet or projectile hit a mob, the game generate a random number and this random number decide which part of the body will the bullet hit, this number will increase the chances to hit X part of the body depending on which part of the body you are aiming, but in general the chest has a higher chance to be hitted, i'll explain this with pseudo code.

Aim intent for chest.
accuracy +10= accuracy //sets the accuracy to 10
Rng A (0-100) //will generate a random number from 0 to 100 that will be stored in the A variable
final_accuracy=accuracy+A //the random number will be added to the predefined accuracy when you aim for the chest to define which part of the body the bullet will hit
cond (final_accuracy >= 10 OR final_accuracy >= 25) Hit chest
(final_accuracy >= 26 OR final_accuracy >= 36) Hit head
(final_accuracy >= X OR final_accuracy >= Y) Hit Z part of the body
(final_accuracy >= 90 OR final_accuracy >= 110) Miss shot
..... till all the parts of the body are evaluated

Now, when you aim for another part of the body the accuracy value might be lower or higher, from my experience, the accuracy when you aim to the chest has the highest value compared to when you aim to another part of the body.

This is what i deduce from my experience playing the game, values are not exact, and might not even be like this, but this is how i belive it works and it makes sense.

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Re: Should you aim for the groin instead of chest?

Post by MrJJJ » 05 Apr 2016, 02:34

Chest definitley, its where majority of your armor is and likely to negate most FF damage you would have dealt otherwise, groin is not that lucky...RIP

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Re: Should you aim for the groin instead of chest?

Post by spheretech » 05 Apr 2016, 04:23

FF shouldn't do bone damage when
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Post by freemysoul » 05 Apr 2016, 05:54

LordeKilly wrote:You don't shoot people in the dick. That's a dick move dude.
Or a pussy move if their female...... EYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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Post by spheretech » 05 Apr 2016, 05:56

freemysoul wrote: Or a pussy move if their female...... EYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
get out of my thread :D
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Post by Mitchs98 » 06 Apr 2016, 18:04

freemysoul wrote: Or a pussy move if their female...... EYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Just. 10/10.

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Post by Wickedtemp » 06 Apr 2016, 18:20

spheretech wrote:FF shouldn't do bone damage when
Hopefully never.

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Re: Should you aim for the groin instead of chest?

Post by spheretech » 06 Apr 2016, 18:25

Wickedtemp wrote: Hopefully never.
Burst fire gyrostabbed bayonet quickfire m41 is my favorite weapon too
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Re: Should you aim for the groin instead of chest?

Post by username123 » 11 Apr 2016, 12:34

spheretech wrote: Burst fire gyrostabbed bayonet quickfire m41 is my favorite weapon too
Pretty bad modded weapon because the quickfire doesn't increase the firing speed and it reduces a lot the accuracy.

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Re: Should you aim for the groin instead of chest?

Post by spheretech » 11 Apr 2016, 13:19

username123 wrote: Pretty bad modded weapon because the quickfire doesn't increase the firing speed and it reduces a lot the accuracy.
No, not a bad modded weapon - THE worst possible attachment combination you could put on a rifle, you will FF everything. That was the joke :@
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