Community's thoughts on Predaliens?

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

So, during a round of CM, we managed to infect a pred, and to my mediocre displeasure, I discovered the larva and it's evolution doesn't even receive a stat boost if it bursts from a pred. This thread is my way to get the communities feel of predaliens. It would most likely be a white listed thing, either as a duel thing, you're approved for pred, you're approved for predalien, or an entirely separate one.

Now you're probably asking "Why would it be white listed?". Simple. Predaliens are stronger than a predator, and just as hostile as a xenomorph, and lacking of any compassion. On top of this, they're hostile to EVERYTHING, thus making it a need to be white listed to avoid too much murderboning. Thoughts on it all?

[forwardslashN]

I was actually thinking about this given the relative close proximity of the xeno update. I definitely want to see predaliens be a thing, but the fact that you can't nest preds and that they self destruct whenever really poses a problem. I've only seen a predator hatch once (edit: Correction, twice, but the second time the larva was immediately killed), and that was because he was SSDing. So, given that the opportunity for the hatchling is really, really low, I think it shouldn't really be a whitelisted role. But, the obvious way to handle this is to have the host predator play the predalien.

[Rey]

I must say that infecting a Predator is a big achievement, but letting him hatch is even better! I think there should be some way to award the xeno players for their work. So yeah, in my thoughts I think they should receive a 'special' alien of some sorts, on the down side though maybe make him unable to speak hive mind and be independent, but not hurt the Queen in any way?

[Google]

Oh, dang I just wanted AvP:req. The predalien is badass! I like the sewer scene when the elder(?) was fighting all the new offspring and then the main predalien comes and wtf slaps him destroying the tunnel.

I think it would be interesting as an event, to have it that the predalien can become a queen itself and make its own hive, with its own ideas. Maybe they will destroy the old aliens, because predalien finds them weak, which could mean the humans could team up with the aliens to defeat the new hive, as the predalien is pretty strong. Or whatever is wanted in roleplay. Maybe Prealiens will just team up with old aliens and destory humans.

[Adjective]

This has been suggested a series of times and Apophis has stated multiple times that it is in the works. It's not a priority at the moment, but it will be done at some point.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

This has been suggested a series of times and Apophis has stated multiple times that it is in the works. It's not a priority at the moment, but it will be done at some point.

I'm aware of the fact it's been discussed. This thread was just to get a feel on the entire communities feeling on pred-aliens themselfs.

[MasterZ01]

I'd just like to add, the Predalian should be independent from the Alien's Hive & Hivemind. So the Predalien wouldn't have to follow/take orders from the queen, but shouldn't be directly allowed to murderbone hive unless It's RPed out. I think those who played the pred whom was infected should play the pred alien. Just my thoughts maybe, Predalien could evolve into a 4th stage evolution that allows it to do cool stuff but it would take awhile to do and require something like Phoren or something

[Azmodan412]

I'd just like to add, the Predalian should be independent from the Alien's Hive & Hivemind. So the Predalien wouldn't have to follow/take orders from the queen, but shouldn't be directly allowed to murderbone hive unless It's RPed out. I think those who played the pred whom was infected should play the pred alien. Just my thoughts maybe, Predalien could evolve into a 4th stage evolution that allows it to do cool stuff but it would take awhile to do and require something like Phoren or something

Phoron*.

[MasterZ01]

Aye, I was gone for two years... Back in the ol' days it was called Plasma!

[Azmodan412]

You mean the station that actually had a xeno capture system?

[MasterZ01]

Aye, I've been with the server for longer than that, before it had that too. I know it been two+ years but I thought some people might remember me lol I was Gamemaster on Infestation a week-two before it shut down.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

I question why evolving into a pred-alien would need phoron to be eaten. And anyways, it would be a direct evolution most likely, since pred-alien was a final stage, with it's only early form being a larva. And even then, yes, it'd ahve to rp it's kills of course, even though pred-aliens saw themselfs as superior to regular xenos.

[Adjective]

Pred Aliens in lore were able to replace a Queen if there was none, yet it could not defy a Queen. a Pred Alien would still serve under a Queen if there was one close enough due to it having a higher psychic manipulation than the Pred Alien iteself would possess. Again as well, there would not need or be a necessary evolution as they are already superior than most if not all 2 tier Xenomorphs.

[Gentlemanly_headcrab]

Most likely a predator will kill themselves after they're hugged and nested because a Predator won't go down like the usually, if you somehow capture one, hug it, and successfully let the Larva hatch from it. I think it'd be okay to have a predalien but only playable by people whitelisted as a Predator. Even if you can hug and nest one it's so rare that'd it be a treat and a very special one at that.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

Pred Aliens in lore were able to replace a Queen if there was none, yet it could not defy a Queen. a Pred Alien would still serve under a Queen if there was one close enough due to it having a higher psychic manipulation than the Pred Alien iteself would possess. Again as well, there would not need or be a necessary evolution as they are already superior than most if not all 2 tier Xenomorphs.

with this in mind, it'd be even MORE important for xeno's to keep the queen alive, because if they didn't, pred alien would no longer be locked to following a queens orders. It's like an attack dog, you kill the handler, you most likely have the thing attacking anyone who can't control it.

[Adjective]

Predaliens can replace a Queen, I know nobody likes the AVP2 movies, but it is a good example of the Pred Alien being able to control non-Queen xenomorphs due to them having a weaker psychic mind than itself, similar to how it has to obey a Queen tier+.