Mods/admin should not be immune to rules and if playing as a character in round should get treated the same as anyone

[Xenomorph Dominatrix]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Mods/admin should not be immune to rules and if playing as a character in round should get treated the same as anyone

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): There has to be a "who watches the police" internal affairs type situation, this would stop the people who want it to be a clique applying to be mod/admin because they want to be a "Level 2 player" that has more power and can get away with more instead of genuinely intending to deal with people that play to ruin the round for others, it'd improve the quality of applicants and build trust with the players.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): I brought this up in another thread and was told it should be discussed in the main forums instead, it's an extreme example but yeah, as host if I did something like that, I would totally give myself a temp ban like anyone else, it's not the end of the world and it's not like can't still access the server logs etc, just voluntarily not playing as a player character til they are feeling better with playing fair with others instead of wanting to "let loose" on the server with real ultimate power predators etc, and if it were an actual policy it'd hopefully prevent things building up to extreme cases like resignations and stuff, it wouldn't be as much "all or nothing" (though I'm not saying it shouldn't be treated more seriously if an mod/admin is behaving badly)

[darklizard45]

Oh boy! oh booooy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4syCNa_6GY

+1

[Youbar]

I was on the TeamSpeak when Apophis775 explained his reasoning for attacking those marines. That same round, he'd been repeatedly trying to contact the marines, who'd promptly shoot at him. He did it three times, all ending with failure, and decided that if the marines weren't his ally, the aliens were. I'd take those words with a barrel of salt, however, because I can't speak for him.

In any case, the admin team is very strictly watched. Didn't you notice that SASOperative had his title of Headmin temporarily revoked for a single offense?

[TR-BlackDragon]

Staff are treated the same way as any other player. There is no special treatment, If staff break the rules then they too get punished for it. I am not sure where your coming up with this but you seem to blatantly ignore rules that you feel don't apply to you. Like posting in a topic that you have no real reason to post in except to make an aggressive post towards the host in which the topic isn't about him. Which clearly states in the rules located at the top of the page you were posting on that you are only to make a post if you are contributing as a witness to the event, (which you weren't) or as a character witness to the person who made the post (which again you didnt). So if you wish to continue complaining about staff receiving special treatment (when they dont), then stop trying to get special treatment.

[forwardslashN]

I'm not sure I understand. Are you making this suggestion because you feel admins are exempt from the rules when playing during a round? If that is the implication, I have to disagree with you. Apop was furious when SAS adminhealed himself during a round, which I personally didn't even think was a huge deal, and I was present for the whole thing. I made a /minor/ staff complaint in the past and it was addressed in a professional manner. If that is not the implication, then I am not sure what this is about. Also to note, your link does not work.

[Xenomorph Dominatrix]

I don't want this to go offtopic too far to be being about one specific person, cos that's just an example really as the most extreme end (e.g. no one should be immune at all, even if though a sole owner host here instead of shared co-owner hosts situation) but in that situation Gelonvia was killed while on a bed helpless, and other injured/crippled people who were evacuating attacked, it was pretty standard ss13 "shuttle grief" as they call it, but while aliens are allowed to use the shuttle I've seen several admins say before that predators are not allowed to go to the sulaco and will be punished if they do (and obviously would have foreknowledge that a predator bomb breaches), though I haven't played a predator to be given the full brief on that.

back ontopic: People aren't always around, and sometimes it's more minor things like an admin online and there's a moderator metagaming. and admin doesn't do anything about the moderator (another example would be the time that Ordukai said it was metagaming to use the cargo cart, and after that Gentlefood then when Ordukai was offline then went around with a turret on it and a smartgun another time), it shouldn't really need a full complaint for people that are behaving badly, they should just get treated like anyone else who's acting up if there's anyone able to deal with it around at the time

[Adjective]

I'm going to be blunt here on the spot. If you ever have a problem with a member of staff file a staff complaint. If you send an A-help knowing it is against the rules and it doesn't cease, do so immediately. STAFF ARE NOT ABOVE RULES. Abusing powers leads to discipline.

If you neglect to file a report. Then it is your own fault when things do not change.

[EXOTICISME]

Isn't this pretty much obvious already? Staff aren't immune to the rules and when they break it they can get punished or demoted. If you have problem with the staff breaking the rules or abusing their privilege there's a complaint section for that.

[apophis775]

It pretty much is that way already.

If there's an issue, file a complaint and it gets investigated and resolved. We've removed staff in the past for complaints against them and issues.

[Ms.Degrasse]

After reading this topic, I feel I Must write something here. For you all to read (including the server owner).
- And mind that this IS NOT a player/admin complaint.

I was on the TeamSpeak when Apophis775 explained his reasoning for attacking those marines. That same round, he'd been repeatedly trying to contact the marines, who'd promptly shoot at him. He did it three times, all ending with failure, and decided that if the marines weren't his ally, the aliens were. I'd take those words with a barrel of salt, however, because I can't speak for him.
In any case, the admin team is very strictly watched.

I remember this round, N. I will describe it from my point of view.

I was playing as Erika 'Hunter' Degrasse, when a predator came, and plasmacastered near a barrricade.
My character smiled to him (even thinking he was hitting an alien).
But he plasmacastered again, and now she was sure it was on her direction.
Erika - being the character she is ("nice person unless really provoked") - "took the challenge", and decided to engage the predador alone with her rifle and grenade launcher...
.... and got plasmacastered to death while he was still cloaking. (He cloaked after she came out of the barricade.)

I know what the predator did is against the rules, but I didn't even thought about filling a report at that time because the scene was CINEMATIC! - I enjoyed it, to the point I took pictures for my own personal album! ^^ (Its an habit I have.)
This is what some predators does in some of the movies/comics/novels, and I felt deeply immersed!
"Wow, finally Erika engaged a predator. She was defeated, but that was amazing!"

Obs.: For you to understand - if you are curious abut why I was so happy about her fight:

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- I had engaged a predator before, as Sadako, when it invaded the Sulaco through the dropship and people called for help in radio. But Sadako, as a "killer minded person", involves herself in violent interactions easily. She fire-axed the predator after provoking it, the crew overpowered it and it was another amazing scene I registered. A small bit of the fight's log here, with her recovering from her wounds. -> http://i.imgur.com/Sz9IVuX.png
And here is Sadako, in private carefully studying her "sweet bloody trophies". ^^ -> http://i.imgur.com/6d3M9WU.png - However having Erika to fight with a predator is a much hard thing to do, taking her distinct personality in account. )

Well...
Then came the weird bit on Erika's first combat scene with a predator...
After her death, an alien dropped by, and was standing near the Predator.
Both of them peacefully standing there, and nothing happened. (!?) Predator took Erika's trophy and left.
As I was taking photos, I took one of this too...
-> http://i.imgur.com/QDjJlex.png
...and after this, I was thinking about this as an "admin event of the weird sort".
I ghosted and started following the predator. Noticed on chat it was Apophis playing him.
He said something about "predator now regarding aliens as worthy prey, and allying with them", I laughed hard here, and kept myself entertained and amused and following his character. (But not immersed anymore. Later I will explain why.)

The fight was amazing and funny to watch.
His predator invaded Sulaco with aliens in the dropship, by using a speciallist's ID. -> http://i.imgur.com/JDU1CU2.png
He used marine's weapons against them. (Not sure if for an even fight, or for AP being more effective.) -> http://i.imgur.com/5YLyKzT.png
And eventually he died, and there he activated his bomb. The blast breached the bridge. -> http://i.imgur.com/0vNo1ir.png

That was interesting to watch! I was in awe here. And I - being a watcher - fully understood his reason for doing it all.

If there's an issue, file a complaint and it gets investigated and resolved. We've removed staff in the past for complaints against them and issues.

I see no issue in this.
Actually I congratulate you for teaching the human players a lesson the exact way I usually do!
From host to host?
I still remember the time when, while hosting a roleplay server based on the ID engine, I broadcasted a "watch tower's message" - after they started killing a lot of Strife's NPCs for no apparent reason - that greater enemy noticed the town was now in a riot and was taking it as an opportunity for attacking.
-> And I spawned a overwhelming army of Doom's cyberdemons and Heretic's malotaurs around the city. (LOL)

Guys?
One thing is the marines properly roleplaying being paranoid about a predator being the one who masterminded the colony's destruction, or having a plan of getting him and selling to Weyland-Yutani, or anything liek that and going after him for a IC reason.
Other is the marines attacking a peaceful predator for no reason, en masse, even after is tried to be diplomatic.

Apophis told them a good lesson that round! (The only thing I would do differently, is that I would have M.O.T.H.E.R receive and decrypt a message about Yautjas declaring a war on humans. - Just for the players not involved in the attack to know ingame what was happening and not feel griefed. - But anyway Apophis was there, in Dsay, explaining it to everyone.)

Apophis character broke a lot of server players and role rules?
YES!
But there is also a rule saying that the staff may break rules in some situations.
Remember this too.
- And I didn't spotted him doing nothing that could be actually called a game mechanic's power abuse.
He didn't admin-healed his predator. It died after receiving many woulds as is in the pictures!

The only "criticism" I will even toss here, is actually on LORE. (The reason my immersion broke, and I started laughing.)
Is more of a roleplay lesson about Yautjas and Xenomorphs for all players in general, that relates to this event.
And that obviously don't apply to an "event of the weird kind", like that funny and entertaining round where we had diplomacy between humans and aliens. -> http://i.imgur.com/ST5TnRS.png

See below it it's of your interest.

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YAUTJAs are a civilized, aggressive and sentient species. Their culture is around the habit of hunting.
As such, they label on their minds the creatures, individuals and beings as representing five basic groups.
On some times, Yautjas may change heir views on certain individuals, or even species.
So this classification is a little fluid, and depends on the Yautja's opinion.
But let's see them:

- Worthy game/prey -> A prey that can defend itself. And a typical predator is allowed to hunt by the hunter's code. (A creature, animal or a sentient being may fall into this group.) In resume, the only thing important for something to fall into this category is "being dangerous".
- Unworthy game/prey -> A prey that can't defend itself, or that is important to an species continuity. (Only dishonoured hunters /bad bloods would slay unworthy game.)
- Honoured hunters -> A hunter is a sentient being of some sort, that shows honour towards it's game / adhere to the hunter's code and who fights bravely. A typical predator will at least respect and possibly "ally" himself to another hunter. (May hunt together, talks to, regard as equals,...) Usually predators, but also humans may fall into this group depending on the context, and also possibly would fall any sentient being fitting the predator's ideology. In Yautja's culture, one hunter may another but it should be honoured to the maximum and have a good reason to happen.
- Dishonoured hunters -> A hunter that breaks the hunter's code. That slays infants, pregnant females, unarmed and too weak opponents, and the like. Bad bloods are this, and some bad bloods are also regarded as assassins, because they kill other Yautjas by surprise, faking a friendly first contact.
- "Pet", actually a creature used as a living hunting tool -> A domesticated animal or creature, used to starle the game, as vehicle or anything else. For wich actions, actually the predator is responsible. Hellhounds are an example of this.

When the Yautja set up a private hunting ground of some sort, by tossing prey into it or by breeding them, they aren't thinking about them as pets ot hunters (this is what they do in "Aliens versus predator" and "PredatorS" movies).

But would an Yautja ally himself to an species regarded as prey?
Or, in this case, eventually take a xenomorph as his "pet"?
...Possibly, specially if he makes the mistake of thinking they aren't sentient and rational.
A unexperienced and unblooded but smart predator may kidnap and care for a larva - away from the queen, induce it to respect him, even use some smart tricks as rubbing some of the xenomorph's secretions on himself. May or may not work... Who knows? (I suspect it will be poor of this Yautja if he takes his "pet" for hunting other xenomorphs, or if he relax and stop "showing himself to be a greater danger" to that xenomorph.)

Would an Yautja regard a Xenomorph or a group of them as as honoured hunters and "ally" to them?
A young one, unblooded and unexperienced predator may fall into this mistake - for example by realizing xenomorphs are sentient and by watching a scene where they don't understand what actually is going on (like xenomorphs doing a lot of smart things while attacking a group of soldiers, and sparing an unarmed person - that actually is a synthetic and was in fact ignored because of this).
But an elder Yautja, with years of experience, certainly knows that "xenomorphs take anyone to their nests" - they always break the honour code by default since childern, pregnant woman, elders and the like are always taken - and as such Xenomorphs are never honourable hunters. - Only a bad blood Yautja would actually think about "allying" himself to them. - And just if he ignores the fact they will see him as a host and try to impregnate him too.


And the XENOMORPHS? Let's go... They aren't civilized, but are sentient, hiveminded and "rational" in their ways.
Those views the creatures and beings, classifying them in five basic groups too.
But this isn't culture induced, being more based on the specific species and on behaviour towards them (not towards the others). Peek a look:

- "One of them" -> Another xenomorph or a creature bearing xenomorph's pheromones (the mutated Ripley's clone in "Aliens 4" movie, a synthetic xenomorph like Jeri or Norbert from the comics and similar examples). Those are ignored, and never attacked by default, unless absolutely necessary like when they hurt or kill another xenomorph for using it's bloods acidic effect.
- "Host" -> A creature or being they will hunt and try to impregnate when they notice it's pheromones. And then will be nested or ignored after being impregnated depending on the context (a hive being or not being present).
- "Dangerous host" -> A host that represents danger and requires caution. Will be slayed if necessary, even if they are already impregnated. Will be avoided only if it's representing a danger of extinction to their group.
- "Not-a-host" -> A being lacking host's typical pheromones, that the xenomorphs ignore by default. A synthetic falls into this category. A creature that can't be hosted falls into this too. (Xenomorphs usually will ignore cockroaches or rats, for example.)
- "Dangerous not-a-host" -> When a creature or analogue of the previous type poses a threat to a xenomorph (or even if it need to be removed for some reason), and is then attacked. - But that doesn't prompt the xenomorphs to hunt this type of creature or the specific individual they attacked. - That is why we see on the games that a synthetic was attacked but not hunted after this (Katya), and that aliens destroyed some "Working Joes" in a facility but not all of them.

Would a single xenomorph not attack an Yautja, and ignore him for some reason?
YES! - If he is overpowered, not able to escape and actually hopeless knowing it's going to be slayed with no chance of retaliation. But that doesn't mean it's on peace with that being.
(Remember the enjailed Xenomorphs in Aliens 4 movie, who refrained from aggressive behaviour after the scientist blasted them with nitrogen. But then who took revenge on him when freed from the jail.)

Would a queen direct the Xenomorphs to not engange an Yautja (or other being) for some reason?
Or would xenomorphs in general behave this way?
Of course!!!
Obviously the queen is very interested in her species success. She will drive them away from a real danger to the hive.
(Remember when a queen moved the aliens away from from Ripley in Aliens 2 when she threatened to destroy the eggs with a flamethrower? Its this!)
And also take in account the numbers of aliens as an important factor, even without a queen if it's the case.
Outnumbered, like in Alien and aliens 3 movies? - Xenomorphs stalk and attacks carefully.
Being Numerous, like in Aliens 2 and Aliens 4 movies? - They attack openly and en masse.
Also, Xenomorph numbers, when chasing and attacking dangerous groups of hosts armed individuals, was always larger.
Or at least they were trying to use some strategy. - They really are an intelligent species!
IF...xenomorphs stumble on a being (or group of) that is dangerous and able to cause a terrible harm to them and their hive...
...but who is apparently not going to do so if they move away...
...they will move away!
They even may use mayhem caused by this creature to their favour.
Only don't mistake this by allegiance, friends going to hunt together or something like that.
This is a tactic of intelligent creatures, it's a temporary truce and just that.
If it's a type of host, and not "one of them"?
Expect them to not be tagging along it, to and to take it down when an actual opportunity of overpowering it arises.

That way?
I can't view what happened that round as normal gameplay in any sense.
It was a predator not simply acting out of the hunter's code, or out the server rules, but actually a predator behaving werdly, with aliens behaving weirdly too around him.
"An event of the weird type", and just that. - Like when we got xeno costumes for marines in a round. -> http://i.imgur.com/P4HhR7q.png
But wasn't it tottally unexpected and funny to watch or be in in some sense?
Sometimes, sillyness is as much of a fun as is immersion, specially when it breaks the monotony.
Whoever was in the hangar, certainly had a unique "OMGFGWTHLOL" moment when the dropship arrived with a predator and many aliens in it, marching to attack.

Only thing important? Know when you are being silly and when you are immersed on the lore.
Respect the server's rules regarding this.
(And here is a medium roleplay server anyway, as such a server with some due license for a character to go out of the box sometimes.)

For the rest? I think it's important the staff put an in-game notice if they are going to do anything exceptional that may affect a large number of players. (Notice that the single predator changed the whole game actually.)
An event, where they may break some rules (as was this case), or even if they spawn characters with different powers.
- Even if it is an event created "on demand" by some reason.

For the rest, have fun people. Stop minding our charater's death too much.

[LordLoko]

Brb preparing popcorn

[apophis775]

-Snip -

Unless you were hit in crossfire/died from wounds, the ONLY time I was firing plasmacaster while cloaked, was after I was AP bullet-ed to near death, and was firing it backwards as I ran away on the lowest setting. So if you were killed in Cloak, that was an accident.


Also, Mother didn't get a "yautja declared war on humans thing", Becuase it was the humans who declared war on me, when they grenaded me several times when I came by peacefully. Even after rescuing a marine from a horrible alien-related death, and explaining the situation to said marine (who went to explain it to leaders).


Predators, have the ability to communicate with Humans (for a single bracer upgrade), or Aliens (for 2 bracer upgrades). This is because sometimes it may be beneficial to try and sneak within the hive and communicate with the aliens, others (if the marines aren't being dingleberries) it may be good to ally with and fight alongside the marines (especially for those 20 alien rounds).

I spent a fair amount of time, Roleplaying a "parley" with the Alien Queen (after the 3 parleys with the marines were interrupted by grenades), where we decided the humans were too dangerous to leave the way they were, and that it was in the best interest of both, and the Xenomorphs as my prey to eliminate them from the equation.

As far as using the Marine rifles, I used to as a combination of effectivness and to be on the same level as the marines. I'd seen the marines VERY effectivly using the rifles to chase me (and the aliens) away several times. Also, having literally not even myself experimented with AP rounds yet (and only a few rounds with marine weapons as I typically play doctors) I decided it was as good as reason as any to use their weapons against them. Also, I did use like, 4 different IDs I found before the SL one worked, for RP purposes, so it wasn't just "SL and none". Also, note that a rule specifically says Preds may adopt marine weapons to fight on an equal ground. That doesn't always mean the preds have the advantage. AP ammo tears preds and marines up the same.

But the thing is, a standard player as predator (non-staff), who took these SAME ACTIONS, probably wouldn't have been disciplined IF they made their intent to ally with the aliens known to the staff (through an Ahelp). I made my intentions clear to both Deadchat and Staff after the 3rd or 4th grenading. This was an RP situation, and it was a result of marines failing to RP on a MASSIVE level.

One thing, that we DO need to look at soon, is how Marines will interact with predators. Because Preds will be "wildcards", but they can be immense allies, especially on the planet. Marines need to realize this, and not always shoot preds on contact.

[Ms.Degrasse]

... and it was a result of marines failing to RP on a MASSIVE level....

Massive RP failure? It was a little worse than this.

Marines see humanoid creature, obviously armed with sharp things but trying to make non-hostile contact?
- "Hurr durrr... Let's toss grenades at this thing just because we toss grenades at things for fun."
( It seems people is watching too much Youtube's videos of marines fooling around with explosives, and are taking the wrong thing as an inspiration for their USCM characters... -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQEVGhVN9oc )

-> It was actually bizarre behaviour if we take into consideration all the context.

Just that typical gamer's thing about "going for the pleasure killing a powerful character", with absolutely no roleplay of any sort in it or even at least a bit of strategical thought, realistical reasoning and team work.
(They basically provoked the Yautja to attack while there was a stablished FOB, a lot of uninvolved marines and other characters on the scene and didn't even bothered into warning the others about it. LOOOOOL)

I will leave here some RP developing tips for human players really willing to take down a predator...

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Want to take out a predator for any reason?
Good... But do it "properly".
For what reason your character wants to kill this? ------> http://screencrush.com/442/files/2015/0 ... &cdnnode=1
Think about it, and the context of Colonial Marines. And insert your reason into the game.
Not just for a justification, but also for not leaving your team aside.
Remember your actions will reflect on them, that most of the human characters are inside a hierarchy and also that acting as a group is always a better strategy (but going alone fits better in some cases).

Some examples:

Is your character paranoid? He thinks the predator have something to do with colony's massacre or something like that?
-> Radio about it. Try to talk the others into it. Go for the command staff with your opinions, evidences or beliefs.
(This approach is actually reasonable if the marines already know there was a massacre on the colony but didn't had any contact with xenos or survivors.)

You had contact with the Dutch's Dozen, they want to hunt him and you are willing to join them?
-> Great! But don't go alone, or at least without warning your comrades. (Otherwise it's desertion on most cases.)

Is your character greedy? We witnessed the predator using his technology and wants it for selling to W-Y?
-> Go for the corporate liaison. Give him your informations and make a proposal. Have him use his fax.

Your character wants his technology only for him? Or have another egocentric goal? He is "killer-minded" or something like that? He discovered the Yautjas love a good combat to death and is up to it for some reason?
-> Go for it alone... Openly challenge the predator for a hourable duel in the jungle. Or ambush it somewhere / set-up traps for him, if it fits your character goals and philosophy better. Whatever is the case you aren't willing to share your loots, so don't involve anyone else in your personal affairs. (Unless you are manipulating some of them into cooperation.)

The combat with xenomorphs was too much for him, he's shell-shocked already and now stumbling into another not-human just ticked him into xenophobic hostility?
-> Cool. But put this into desperate words and behaviour. Scream. Toss things. Curse. (Tip the fellow players you character is going postal on the predators and xenomorphs. - Give them a chance for calming you down or even joining you.)

Whatever is the case, have fun.
And remember there's always chance you may get caught by xenomorphs, killed by the predator or even arrested for desertion. - Don't be salty if that happen.

...And also some RP tips for humans seeking to ally with it, form a partnership or at least to have a friendly contact.

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So you stumbled on an Yautja wandering on the colony?
http://screencrush.com/442/files/2016/0 ... &cdnnode=1
Of course your character is curious.
But what is on his mind? And what are his priorities for a first contact?
Let's make the things interesting and think deeply about some of the many possibilities.

"Whatever this being is, certainly it knows something about the incident. Let's follow the white rabbit."
- An investigative approach. Fits characters who have brain before brawn, and who are dedicated to figuring out what happened on the colony. Even if xenos are already contacted and the cause of the incident is clear, the Yautjas may know a lot more about them. Just don't forget an Yautja isn't a human being. - Have a realistic first contact with the new race you just discovered. Don't forget to tell your command staff about what you are trying to do.

"It's killing the same thing we are. My enemy's enemy is my friend!"
- The most obvious thought if you already terrorized by how powerful the xenomorphs are, and witnessed the predator taking some of them down - or calmly gutting a xenomorph for making a trophy of it.
A rational and cold hearted character will have pure strategy in mind, while an emotive and panicked one may even think the predator is a guarding angel of some sort. On any case, the Yautja is well received.

"Finally I/we contacted an intelligent alien lifeform! Take-me to your leader!"
- Yes, it's something you character never expected to happen in his own entire life. (Only Dutch's Dozens mercs know about the Yautja.) So you character is in awe, and excited about the possibilities....
New technologies? Knowledgement about the universe? Insights about a new culture?
Make it alive, buddy. Be humanity's embassador! (Good approach if your character is a researcher, liaison or doctor, but also fits any other character who was designed as being particularly clever and rational.)

"Your technology is quite advanced. Let's trade?"
- The typical approach for a liaison or another particularly greedy character.
Also something a well seasoned combat strategist would think about doing if he knows how powerful and effective against the xenomorphs the Yautja's technology is.
Mind that it's something that may or may not work depending on the context.
(If roleplayed correctly by both sides, it depends much more on how the Yautja view your character than in what your character is offering him.)
May result in some Yautja mines, smartdiscs, combistick, and even in marines screwing themselves by misusing those artifacts. - But isn't a hell of a fun when it happens? ^^

"My inner hunter salutes your inner hunter."
- Is your character a jungle combat speciallist, very fond of game hunting and with many trophies on his shackle or locker?
A marine with many stories about surviving in harsh conditions, who loves melee and is kinda the team's savage?
Or something darker? Maybe that bizarre soldier who collects fallen foe's teeths in secret and make collars with them?
And whatever is the case, your character always felt misunderstood by the others, a little lonely?
Or even is him much more adventure-driven or action-thirsty than particularly loyal to the USCM?
Congrats, you just met the perfect buddy. You feel compelled to contact it (and it not being human is just a small detail.)
It's the perfect excuse for taking the predator for a walk (even if it means desertion if you fail to at least warn the others).
And also an excellent opportunity for developing you character ingame.

... (Many others.)
- Always mind the context, buddy.
What happened?
What do you know in-game?
Who is your character (even if you didn't bothered in writing about him in a dossier) and what is it's role?

Have fun.

And also a bit for realistic xenomorph RP on this matter.

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As I told before, Xenomorphs see Yautjas as a potential hosts on the first contact.
http://www.christoph-schinko.com/_struc ... 02-avp.jpg
It is the only excuse they need for attacking it.

But? The xenomorphs are not just a cunning and intelligent species, but also hiveminded.
As such, if facing a host already recognized as too dangerous for a single xenomorph to take out alone, they obviously will attack in numbers by default. (On this case, organize a massive attack, using the hivemind channel.)

It isn't actually something otherwordly. (Or "metagamey".)
Any other "hiveminded species" do the same, like hornets, termites, ants and bees. (In real life, most of those actually either promtply recognize intruders, hosts and/or predators by their pheromones, or actually "tag" them as such by emitting specific warnings to their peers.)

But when a Xenomorph typically isn't going to attack an Yautja?

1 - When it is single, of a weaker type and/or knows it is no match for him.
Or when the Yautja is congregating with humans or too near large groups of them.

Stalk it if it's the case. Tell others about it. Wait for the right opportunity.
A xenomorph is aggressive but not dumb and also not willing to sacrifice himself in a suicidal charge if there isn't a good reason. Remember the first and third Aliens movies. Outnumbered xenomorphs stalk their preys, wait for the right moment and kill them one-by-one.

2 - If it was deemed as a too dangerous host by the hivemind/queen, and there are easier to get hosts around. (Actually when players or the queen came to a consensus that it isn't a good idea to take out the Yautja at the moment.)

Team work and strategy first. Also remember xenomorphs tendency towards snatching easier targets on movies and games before going on for the most dangerous ones.
Xenomorphs are hiveminded and instinctive, but also much smarter than insects.

3 - If the queen told you to not do so. (Typically because it realized this host is a threat of extinction to the entire hive and that isn't going to do so if not provoked.) Possibly with some strategy going on about it.

As seen in aliens two, a queen may "tell" her minions to move away from a host if it is deemed a danger to the entire hive. An already satisfied Yautja may had demonstrated to the xenomorphs he isn't going to slay (more of) them, and the queen reasoned it's good to leave him alone (at least for now).
Or it might be the case of a predator still hunting the xenomorphs, and the queen sent some for slaying (or distracting) him but told the others to not involve themselves.

On any case, remember the Xenomorphs aren't going to lie to his peers (or to the queen) for having them involved on a fight with the Yautja.
But they can give feedback, and help out with strategic thinking about taking it down for the good of the hive.

And also that a well roleplayed queen isn't going to be kind towards a host that killed many of her kind.
(But it may even induce that host to feel it is going to be spared for while, just while it waits for the right moment.)

For the rest, I hope no one here misundertoods me for giving those tips.
This isn't salty criticism of any sort, but collaboration.

We have an amazing thing here on this server, and the potential of making it even greater.

[Jack McIntyre]

I will admit playing pred, it gets a bit annoying when marines decide that they can get respect or maybe it is just upset that they can't be pred themselves, but sometimes i feel like predators get targeted by marines. I had a round where I was waiting for hive to build and since I was scouting around I walked into the fob and roared to have some fun when I was challenged to a duel by a marine, jump forward where I have had three duels, never killing the enemy against me because they had all fought quite well, one even challenged me to a fist fight so I mean I mean had to give kudos who would challenge something bigger and stronger then he is to a fist fight, but everything seemed fine since I couldn't hunt anyway and I didn't plan on helping the marines at all, but I had figured they wouldn't at least blast me now knowing that big guy was their friend especially after giving some of their fighters who fought me a trophy for keeping their friends out of the fight. Everything seemed fine until three marines saw me and without a word just started blasting at me, I ran off into the jungle and decided these three were my next targets, and when I started to stalk them and go after them, they were trying to rally others to go kill me, and after killing one, the other two ran into the middle of the fob to escape me. The marines then apparently hearing from these two how I had gone hostile and blah blah blah they decide I am a threat although some marines still refused their comrades orders and even helped me avoid some of the patrols by radioing I wasn't in this area when I was and blah blah blah, but basically turned into me against the marines because they just kept trying to shoot me.

I get the problems we had with things like that, but I would just like to point out if you have to use your whole team to kill a pred, there is nothing special about your character because well you had to use overwhelming force to kill one thing. If you can beat a predator in 1v1 combat in a duel (which can be done) then you earn respect from at least me and probably some of the community since it is actually a hard thing to do. I think the problem we have a bit is everyone wants to be known as a robust player, but if I may go off topic a bit, you can't just come on here and think you are robust and there are different ways to be robust, if you can build a strong FOB with your amazing engineering skills then you are a robust engineer, it is just a saying on proving you are worth your salt on the server. So please try to think a bit more before actions because marines and xenos the only time I usually go hostile as a pred anymore is if I am attacked first.

Now back to the point of staff abuse I am going to agree with the others, put in a report against the abusing staff member. We are humans and we will make mistakes just like everyone, so try not to judge us too bad . We are volunteering to try and make sure you guys get to keep having fun on the server while trying to combat anything that may ruin the fun for you folks in case some griefers or rule breaking people come along. We all joined staff because we like the community and we like the server and we wanted to give something back to you guys since we like the community so much. Long story short, we make mistakes just like everyone and just try to remember we do get treated the same way as you guys from Apop and other staff we just get some different buttons to play with to try and keep the game fun for you guys.