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[jrodvon]

2. No, CM has security features which detect attemps at multikeying and automatically prevent it (logging in with a differnet byond ID but from the same IP will be detected, for example), and VPNs/proxies are banned. Obviously people do try to ban evade but it's normally detected quickly and leads to any ban being upgraded to a perma ban. If you do ever get banned for more than 24 hours the best thing to do is make an appeal in the forums, which can lead to your ban being lifted if staff agree.

So let’s say that two Unbanned players want to play the game...can they do this? I’m trying to introduce my brother to the game and I want to play with him.

[Sulaboy]

So let’s say that two Unbanned players want to play the game...can they do this? I’m trying to introduce my brother to the game and I want to play with him.

Meta communications is against the rules, but isn't really a problem or enforced if it is non malicious. This isn't an official ruling on it though so don't trust me too much on this. If you didn't speak to each other IRL while playing it shouldn't ever be a problem.

Oh and inform staff that you have a brother laying with a different CKey with an ahelp. They'll log it down so you don't get hit for multi keying

[jrodvon]

Meta communications is against the rules, but isn't really a problem or enforced if it is non malicious. This isn't an official ruling on it though so don't trust me too much on this. If you didn't speak to each other IRL while playing it shouldn't ever be a problem.

Oh and inform staff that you have a brother laying with a different CKey with an ahelp. They'll log it down so you don't get hit for multi keying

Ok. Thanks for the information!

[jrodvon]

If they had ahelped and a mod had seen you removing them from the round with OD they'd definetly take issue with it. This kind of thing will get you jobbanned from medic, I understand why you did it and I can sympathize though. That player shouldn't have tried to kill you in the first place but you still shouldn't kill your own marines and you especially shouldn't deliberatly remove them from the round like that.

Next time, if someone shots you on purpose for any reason I would say move back from the fighting a bit, ahelp giving the players name and saying that they shot you on purpose, you'll probably get ahealed and they'll probably get a note and a warning (and if they've done the same thing many times even a ban).

I actually ended up being job banned as a medic. How do I Appel this. The “Appeals” section in the forums appears to be only for regular account bans.

[Gnorse]

Nah. The appeal section is for all bans. Job, temporary and perma.

[jrodvon]

Nah. The appeal section is for all bans. Job, temporary and perma.

Do you think my ban will be appealed given my situation??? I won’t bother making it if I was really in the wrong.

[CABAL]

So let’s say that two Unbanned players want to play the game...can they do this? I’m trying to introduce my brother to the game and I want to play with him.

Rules don't apply to xeno side. You can metagame/powergame the fuck out of this game, it's not against the rules.

[Herac]

Do you think my ban will be appealed given my situation??? I won’t bother making it if I was really in the wrong.

My advice would be to wait for 2 or 3 weeks, make sure you don't break any rules in that time, and then post an appeal just saying you understand that's against the rules now and next time you'll ahelp in that situation and as a medic you'll only give people who shot you light beatings instead of 300u bicard.

If mods see that you haven't broken any other rules and you won't do it again they'll definetly lift the medic ban.

On the topic of introducing someone else to the game I think it's great that you enjoy it that much and want to share it, as Sulaboy said just ahelp in game and explain it. In the context of CM 'meta-comming' basically just means talking about an ongoing round with someone who is also in that round, stuff like if people who don't communicate at all in character (over the radio or just /say) but still work together. If you're going to play with your brother just make sure you speak to each other in character and communicate things, if you get what I mean.

Rules don't apply to xeno side. You can metagame/powergame the fuck out of this game, it's not against the rules.

I don't actually understand how that is supposed to relate to the question Jrodvon had but rules do apply to xenos and metagame/powergamiing are borth prohibited. Ahelp if you see xenos metagaming, if you never report it staff can't talk to people who do it.

[CABAL]

I don't actually understand how that is supposed to relate to the question Jrodvon had but rules do apply to xenos and metagame/powergamiing are borth prohibited. Ahelp if you see xenos metagaming, if you never report it staff can't talk to people who do it.

Heh... Funny. So "young" and so inexperienced. Read this: viewtopic.php?f=64&t=17809 and learn the secret of no meta/powergaming for xenos.
Even on previous page in this thread i asked about dick and powergaming xeno behaviour of taking from nest, stunning and putting back just before "timer" of escaping nest reached "full".

Regarding the question: He can play with his brother next to each other and communicate verbally as much as he want if they are xenos. No punishment. But on marine side? Ban.

[Tharinoma]

Metacomms are forbidden for all roles, including xenos.
do not share IC information with anyone outside the game. You will be banned, and possibly permabanned.

[Herac]

Heh... Funny. So "young" and so inexperienced. Read this: viewtopic.php?f=64&t=17809 and learn the secret of no meta/powergaming for xenos.
Even on previous page in this thread i asked about dick and powergaming xeno behaviour of taking from nest, stunning and putting back just before "timer" of escaping nest reached "full".

Regarding the question: He can play with his brother next to each other and communicate verbally as much as he want if they are xenos. No punishment. But on marine side? Ban.

I've been playing for 6 months or so now, and I've read that thread already - it's just a salt mine tbh. There are examples given of xeno meta (building traps at LZ1) so that's planely false. As Tharinoma says metacoms are forbidden for everyone, including xenos. You're allowed to have your opinons but don't deliberatly mislead new players in ways that could result in them getting banned.

[jrodvon]

Autodoc sucks. Automatic mode barely heals the patients. Am I doing something wrong???

[Retrokinesis]

Yes. Never, ever use automatic mode under any circumstances. It's slow, inefficient, and has no idea how to handle patients with cyberlimbs so they get stuck in an endless loop of it trying to fix them.

Set it all manually and don't input surgical brute/burn treatment on patients with cyberlimbs.

[CABAL]

I've been playing for 6 months or so now, and I've read that thread already - it's just a salt mine tbh. There are examples given of xeno meta (building traps at LZ1) so that's planely false. As Tharinoma says metacoms are forbidden for everyone, including xenos. You're allowed to have your opinons but don't deliberatly mislead new players in ways that could result in them getting banned.

What traps? By the time of dropship landing on LZ1 there is little to no chance for carrier to plant resin holes. Huge evolution timer on drone, usually long way from hive to carry eggs and fog/doors prevent carrier from doing it. It is forbidden becouse this is stupid and would cause xenos to lose. Just like "No-LZ1" hives. Building hive just near LZ1 is stupid for xenos becouse marines would steamroll them without Mature T3 to defend it (This is why "metarush" is so painfull for xenos, they are weak at the beginning).

As you can see: Stupid and weak xeno strategy that would make them lose much easier is forbidden, but powergaming things that let them win is OK.

Explain why LZ1 traps are forbidden, but taking marine off from the nest, stunning and putting him back is not? Do you have reasonable explanation?

[Gnorse]

Ya'll are going offtopic. There's plenty of threads dedicated to this sort of stuff.

[Hughgent]

Not a question, but more of an answer.

What's the best melee weapon for Hunter Games?

It's the Incision Management System, and from my COUNTLESS times i've screwed up due to ineffective anesthetic and burst lungs, it does about 20 burn and brute damage per swing, AND SWINGS AS FAST AS THE TICK RATE.

[DefinitelyAlone0309]

Not a question, but more of an answer.

What's the best melee weapon for Hunter Games?

It's the Incision Management System, and from my COUNTLESS times i've screwed up due to ineffective anesthetic and burst lungs, it does about 20 burn and brute damage per swing, AND SWINGS AS FAST AS THE TICK RATE.

If you can, get a drill, and aim for the eyes. Or get a screwdriver and aim for the eyes.

[jrodvon]

What is Med-U Deluxe? And where can I find more surgical trays?

[Hughgent]

What is Med-U Deluxe? And where can I find more surgical trays?

More surgical trays have to be ordered from Requisitions. They cost 30 points and most if not all CT's and RO's will be happy to order it for you. Do them a favor and stick around to pick up the trays because you can carry the two trays that come in your hands, no need to drag the crate.

Med-U Deluxe? I think that's the PDA cartridge for the CMO. Can't say I've seen one for quite some time.

[Herac]

Explain why LZ1 traps are forbidden, but taking marine off from the nest, stunning and putting him back is not? Do you have reasonable explanation?

LZ1 traps are forbidden because the xenos have no IC reason to place traps there, they don't know that the mariens are coming.

As for nesting/unnesting it's actually funny, I ahelped awhile ago asking about this and a mod (Omicega) told me that it was against the rules but they were prorbably going to introduce a code change to mechanically prevent it. As for why most people probably think it's reasonable to do, that's because xenos can see a message ([usr name] starts struggling to break free of the resin nest) when someone tries to break out. I'm pretty unclear on if it's against the rules or not myself so I'd like to see staff add something to this if possible.

[Gnorse]

it is against the rules to unbuckle a marine from a nest just to reset the resist timer. I'm pretty damn sure.

[Herac]

it is against the rules to unbuckle a marine from a nest just to reset the resist timer. I'm pretty damn sure.

That's exactly what I've been told, but even if you go back in this thread a few pages people are asking the question and being told it's fine, which I can understand because
that's exactly what I thought until I went and ahelped it.

Similar thing to melting the CAS weapons as soon as the marines deploy, I was playing a sent and marines left DS2 unguarded on LV and the PO's didn't lock it down so Lurkers killed both the POs and I melted all the DS weapons. I ahelped afterwards asking if that was kosher or not and Grim told me it was very frowned upon. I don't think I would have ever found out about that unless I had asked, though.

[CABAL]

That's exactly what I've been told, but even if you go back in this thread a few pages people are asking the question and being told it's fine, which I can understand because
that's exactly what I thought until I went and ahelped it.

Similar thing to melting the CAS weapons as soon as the marines deploy, I was playing a sent and marines left DS2 unguarded on LV and the PO's didn't lock it down so Lurkers killed both the POs and I melted all the DS weapons. I ahelped afterwards asking if that was kosher or not and Grim told me it was very frowned upon. I don't think I would have ever found out about that unless I had asked, though.

They want you to think that. Staff knows about such behaviour xeno becouse they are doing it themselves (since many of them "main" xenos). Months/Years of CAS weapons, months/years of nests and years of body dragging and they are learning about it now? You have to never be on a server to not see that. I'm a random player that started to play CM since X-mass with huge breaks yet I ecountered it all.

I stopped ahelping when I received that answer: "Colony is Xeno teritory, they can do what they want". Runner was slashing every fucking bed to deny every bit of metal for marines. If this wasn't meta/powergaming then I got idea that nothing is for benos.

[Gnorse]

My man, we're all pissed off about xeno meta but you need to chill. Besides, this isn't the place to vent about shit like this. We've got specific threads made for this kind of stuff.
Just saying.

[CABAL]

My man, we're all pissed off about xeno meta but you need to chill. Besides, this isn't the place to vent about shit like this. We've got specific threads made for this kind of stuff.
Just saying.

Sure, but that old "dirty" trick of saying "Oh... I never knew about it. It missed my attention for such a long span of time. It's a good thing to have such players like you who alert us without salting on forum" is what I can't withstand.

Since corpse dragging is no longer a thing I'm pretty chilled.