The Future of Colonial Marines - Debate

[HighwaterOffical]

Before you shitstorm about how i shouldent be making a fourm like this. Realize who you are. Realize who i am, realize what kind of server this is, Realize this is the internet

Now, That thats over with, i have one question. SSCM can go one of two ways.

Following the Lore of the Aliens movies:
Doing so negates room for creativity among the dev team (Coders, Mappers, Spriters, Head Dev) and requires them to only add the content that is in the Alien movies. Which is limited. HOWEVER, the immersion of actually being in a Aliens film will be more intact this way.

Creatively allowing the dev team to have votes among the community to decide the addition of contents, not baseing the vote off the lore however:
This would allow more room for the Dev team to use their creativity to create LIMITLESS ammounts of content for SSCM. More, lore incorrect items will be added, and it wont be to the point were you will be immersed in a ALIENS COLONIAL MARINE setting. But resembling that to a certain degree

Vote on the Poll, then comment your opinion

[DernSquirres]

While I voted "No" to following lore, I feel like there should be a middle ground of "The devs follow the Aliens lore but will also add in things that don't follow it." Either way, I think the future of CM is gonna be a good one.

[razerwing]

People run around with BlackOps gear, Santa outfits, and various other donation items. That fact alone kinda prevents things from strictly following Alien lore, no?

I'm not sure this poll was even needed to be honest. The developers and all the staff so far seem smart and they seem to know what they're doing and where they want this to go. I've got faith in 'em.

[HighwaterOffical]

Its not about the devs intellect, its about the people who want to keep it 100% Lore, and Those who want Non-Lore items or features in.

[razerwing]

There is no such thing as 100% lore items. Not as long as there are donators and people are still playing 2D spess-men. The people who DO want this to be 100%, strictly lore-based are either going to end up changing their minds or leave sorely disappointed.

[speedybst]

Aliens films only? There has been discussion of expanded universe objects already.
if we were only going off the films we'd have already reach and surpassed the limits of the films long ago.
Considering there are several dozen novels and comics, various digital medias and products and even a small amount of PnP (pen and paper) RPG products avaliable, trying to limit it to the films would be... IDK, it would be wrong.

Also, might wanna get rid of that poll before lord Apophis removes it, since he has a thing against polls...

[coroneljones]

Well..theres also the thing about,if its strict to the movies....I guess Angry Infantry Shall never appear again...
That and other things thats mostly Jonesdone

[MrGabol100]

I voted yes, but not for following lore 100% But canonical shit, reskin of the laser guns to the movies', adding cool shit, merging with the SS13 lore as we do... (Actually, we are the NanoTrasen Colonial Marines, and that's pretty goddamn cool. NT = WY) So, yes, follow the lore, but merge it with SS13.

[Felkvir]

I voted yes, but not for following lore 100% But canonical shit, reskin of the laser guns to the movies', adding cool shit, merging with the SS13 lore as we do... (Actually, we are the NanoTrasen Colonial Marines, and that's pretty goddamn cool. NT = WY) So, yes, follow the lore, but merge it with SS13.

Ehh, i picture it more like NT = company that works for/with WY


Everyone interprets that shit on their own though so ..

[RoswellRay]

I voted yes, but not for following lore 100% But canonical shit, reskin of the laser guns to the movies', adding cool shit, merging with the SS13 lore as we do... (Actually, we are the NanoTrasen Colonial Marines, and that's pretty goddamn cool. NT = WY) So, yes, follow the lore, but merge it with SS13.

I was under the impression the station was NT and we were USCM.

[CampinKiller]

I was under the impression the station was NT and we were USCM.

I've always considered us NT Colonial Marines, since the ship is the NMV (NanoTrasen Military Vessel) Sulaco and the station is the NSS (NanoTrasen Science Station) Nostromo

[Obey_StyleZ]

People run around with BlackOps gear, Santa outfits, and various other donation items. That fact alone kinda prevents things from strictly following Alien lore, no?

Someone mention my blackops gear :P

[apophis775]

I'm... not even sure how to respond to this.

[apophis775]

I will address this in a post tomorrow.

[SPACEpotato]

I voted yes, I mean, follow the lore, but not to the extreme with all the, GONNA GO ON NOTHER BUUGG HUUNNT kinda stuff, after all, they're NT marines, not Colonial marines..as far as I know anyway, so, I would like the law to be followed BUT, you still have to keep the NT marine part, working for NT, that kind of stuff. I mean, the lore of "Aliens" is that the marines KNOW about them, so, that's not what happens here, but, adding things from the lore would be AWESOME, and keeping the SS13 feel would be, well, even more awesome, so, I voted yes.

[coroneljones]

Thats not the lore of aliens...no one knows about the xenos apart from wey yu and survivors of xeno attacks
Wich are rare

[HighwaterOffical]

but fuck logic.jpg

[Void00]

The marines arent NT-hired , dude.

Also , we've found a necromancer !

P.S.
I'm making maps based on how i like it , and how good would it look , not on how similar it is to the aliens-lore planets.

[mdom]

I voted for Dev control.

At this point the lore is muddled as there is not direct explanation of who Nanotransen or Weyland is. The less explained some aspects of a story keeps the mystery alive. That mystery creates more room for players and staff to come up with new and interesting stories. Each round is an alternative origin story for Alien just as the movies are. With the newest movies they are planning on ignoring alien 3. Canon is a malleable entity and every person will have their own idea of what is canon "lore". I don't think limiting someone's creativity with subject matter is a good idea. Look at what James Cameron did with a traditional horror film. He turned it into an action film that focused on life, death, and birth. That emerges when you break from the constraints of lore.

Most human inventions and creations have been due to approaching a problem with an alternative approach to a traditional problem.

Sorry for the rant, just wanted to state a few points.

[Davidchan]

I'm middle of the road, leaning towards Dev control.

Should we follow the lore when ever it leads to fun gameplay or sensible mechanics? Hell Fucking Yes.

Should we nail our feet to the ground and railroad ourselves to a 100% accurate universe? No. It wouldn't make for a fun 2D spessman game and there are better alternatives for that kind of gameplay.

Ravagers, I feel have no place in the game and should be replaced/palate swapped for the Praetorians to give them back their role as the top dogs of the hive, only the Queen is more fearsome. One of the main complaints I have about Ravangers and Hivelords is that they can become rather common, and given they are the same size of the Queen if not slightly larger, it ruins the effect the Queen should have on the marines if/when they see her. Right now, seeing the Queen is just another overly large alien. If Praetorians where the biggest of the 3 castes, and they are roughly half the size of queens, the Marines would learn to fear the Praetorians as the big ones and utterly shit themselves when the Queen rushes in and screeches.

[MrGabol100]

By that time I thought we were NT mareens, but we are USCM, and I prove me wrong, but we need to change Sulaco's name....