Lacy Scraps Ghetto-garage [cryo chamber, cryo-pack]

[KingKire]

Really ghetto machines that i decided to think up, ill add more as i think about it.

Ghetto Cryo-Pod:

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KEY:
Blue circle = Gas cooler
Blue lines - cold oxygen
Red Circle = Gas injector (you need to insert gas somewhere)
Red lines = Hot oxygen
Black = A non-porous wall
Purple = Doors
Blue rectangle = Air vent
Red rectangle = Air sucker
Yellow = High pressure gas pump

Tired of no cryo chips? Really want that sexy cryopod on the ground? Want to just freeze a bunch of cheeki-breeki's for the hell of it? Well here's an untested design to do just that
Inject the injured with a good amount of cryex/clonex, drag them through the doors ( seal each one as you walk through, dont want that oxygen getting out) and toss them in. Watch that health bar go right on up.

Notes:
-You want to have 3 airlocks between the cryo room and the exit point. This is so you can pump out all the valuable cold air. This might cause suction though, so ehhh. bugs to be worked out.
-You'll likely need internals, Its going to be very cold in there of course.
-You want some high pressure pumps sucking out any cold air that might escape when you try to exit the chamber ( possible solution: switch to a 2 pipe system, ICE-cold oxygen and NORMAL temp air. Suck out one, then insert the other so you dont need a bunch of airlocks.)
-You could likely scale this up, make massive cryo chambers for healing a bunch of wounded people. Go even farther and build some cloners in there, now you got a Mr. Freeze Medbay. Go even further and install an Operating room. Just use "Leporazine" ( Silcon, copper, Phoron catalyst) and you can perform your Mr. Freeze Surgery. hehe.

ALRIGHTY! update as of april 12th of the 17th!

so! ive finally gave the design a test run! it aint beautiful, but it does work! which means we can start to improve upon it!

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heres some notes ive gathered so far.
-Current design uses 2 air pumps, 2 freezers, 1 hipower pump, and a canister port.
-The freezers were carrying super bins, pico manipulaters, and advanced capaciters.
-To get cryomixes to work, you need a body temp past -103*c
-this design can put a person into -170*c in about 4 seconds of exposure. This can go as high as -205*c body temp.
-Ive been loading the pressure tank to about 240 kpa.
-The high pressure means i can flood an area with cold gas really quickly, but, this can cause over pressure problems, and a small amount of cold bleed in by-standing rooms.
-The airpumps can repressure a canister in about 1-2 kpa a second
-The very cold air (-270k) is causing problems with the gas being too low pressure to flood an area. I've done a ghetto solution by using a hipower pump to just keep forcing air into the canister, which seems to be working?
-showers give -193*c temperature
- I've only managed to get -15/-40*c when using just a cold breathing tank and gas mask by itself, so portable cryo tanks are still being worked on.
-you can use analyzers on tanks to find out their temperatures. cool stuff i didnt know about

Problems:
-Pressure. either over pressure or under pressure, im having problems
-I dont know how this machine works per se, and so its been guesswork on solving the problems
-Vents require air alarm controls, and im not quite sure how to control air alarms, so air pumps are working as a getto pump
-Im pretty sure i can lose a freezer and air pump and it would work fine, but i dont know what im doing so...
_/(* .*)\_ ?
- I really do think i can make portable air tanks that can freeze a body past -103*c, but i think it needs colder temps then just 3 freezers, as well as higher pressures to force to cold air into a person. I really want to get this one to work... maybe 6 freezers, and some high pressure pumps to really jack up the kpa in a canister so they can be filled better.

[Helgraf]

I actually kinda like the look of this to be honest. Good job.

[jaggaaff]

Here's a BETTER ghetto cryo: Wrench the showers to get super-cold temperature and inject people with cryo/clone chem to heal.

[Helgraf]

thats too mainstream. WE NEED MORE ROOM@

[KingKire]

Showers are great, but the only area with showers is the nexus. Some days, you dont want to sit in the nexus... maybe you want T-comms, maybe you want TableFort. Maybe you want to toss a whole bunch of smucks in a room and turn them into snow-meister. Then this design is for you.

[KingKire]

New update! april 12th!

[Jroinc1]

New update! april 12th!

Have you tried upping the pressure on the breath mask? Set it to 101 kpa instead of 16, or 12, or whatever it comes set as. That MIGHT help. Maybe.


EDIT-Field-deployable mass version, blueprints and operator instructions.

You need to bring down cooler parts, a spare cell of the highest power you can get, 2 airlock electronics, a stack of (reinforced) glass, a 3-way pipe, 2 connectors, and a O2 canister (ideally around ~300kpa) and portable air pump. 2 backpacks and some pulling and pushing will carry this, and fill the rest of your space with as many cryo meds as you can take (+kelotane. It'll cause burns). Oh, and tools (with an analyzer), and a spacesuit. And extra internals. Wow, this thing needs a lot.

Find an indoor area (has to have functioning power, and simulated atmos). Enclose a 4x3 area with rglass windows with one opening. Secure the windows. This is your treatment area.
Build a windoor in the opening. Build a 2x2 area onto that windoor, with your other windoor attached and leading out to the outside. That's your airlock.

Go to the outside of the treatment area. Build the cooler in the center of one of the 3-tile windows (screwdriver the board so it faces inwards).

Go inside. Place the 3-way manifold so that it connects to the cooler, then place the connectors so that they can connect to the manifold (Goal is a T-shape with the cooler outside).
Connect the pump and canister to the manifold.
Leave, turn on the cooler, max power & lowest temp.
Re-enter, set the o/p pressure on the canister to 101.3, and the pump to intaking air and max pressure, and turn on the pump while opening the canister.

The temperature should slowly drop now and reach cryotemp within ~3-5 min. This design gives you 10 tiles of working space (12, 2 taken up by equipment, in a 3x3 area with one oddly-placed tile), so you AND an assistant can deal with 5 'rines while able to reach all of them AND to move them around freely (More if you're just packing them in like corpses).

The airlock is 2x2, which is a little small, but is big enough that it'll be easy enough to pull wounded through (2 at a time on stretchers, if you skew the doors). Design was a balance between need for a large size (so you can shut the airlock behind you), and a small size (So you aren't flushing the chamber completely EVERY time you use it).

Additionally, once you reach cryotemps, you can and should turn off the pump inside. You'll need to run it when you use the airlock, but only then. Analyzer stays inside so you can tell the temp, spacesuit's for you so you don't freeze while treating multiple of them, internals keeps them from suffocating. The only major flaw with this one is reliance on the portable pump, but it was done to limit complexity (could do it with a scrubber as well).

Honestly, I think this thing'll be pretty lethal, but who knows? It MIGHT work.


But anyway, you wanted a design, here's one that'll do what you want.

[Crab_Spider]

Sorry Lacy, but under the Law of The Rhodes, I hereby must dismantle that cryo machine for the sake of RP. Prepare for shitcurity justice.

[Jroinc1]

UPDATE-

Portable cryo IS A THING.

Use a full-sized air tank, empty it out with an air pump and piping, then use a freezer to cool an AIR (not O2) canister to 60K or so, while using another canister and pump to keep it around 600kpa.

Fill the air tank. Wear a mask, firesuit, and firesuit helmet. Set internals, and click on the tank. Set output pressure to max.

Use a health scanner to keep track of your temperature. It takes a while to get down, and moves in pulses, but I've hit -190F.

Take clonex pill. Heal.

This DOES make you move slow as shit, AND depletes your food fully during one heal, but HOLYSHIT, IT WORKS.

I'll look at the stationary one more later.

[KingKire]

ahhh! nice! i've had a problem with the external temp trying to average out the body temperature but i didnt think to try the firesuit to create a fully insulated environment from the outside warmer temps...this game is AMAZING on how deep it goes. wow.

The pulses part comes from the breathing, where a person takes a breath every x amount of time (i think, thats gonna need code diving or such)

for the stationary one, ive used an inflatable barrier kit to keep the transport size down (7 moveable walls, hell yah) and i think with a little more tinkering everything should be able to be fit into 2 bags and the barrier case (+dragging around the canister and the portable air pump).

My first run with the stationary one on the ground didnt work out, and only caused a temperature decrease down to 10c, but i think i used too much area for too little air pressure.

i wonder if the o2 was part of the problem for the cryo tanks as wekk, maybe the air tank's lower (higher?) heat capacity might allow it to transfer more frost out, or might prevent it from losing too much Kpa from cold moles.

[Jroinc1]

ahhh! nice! i've had a problem with the external temp trying to average out the body temperature but i didnt think to try the firesuit to create a fully insulated environment from the outside warmer temps...this game is AMAZING on how deep it goes. wow.

The pulses part comes from the breathing, where a person takes a breath every x amount of time (i think, thats gonna need code diving or such)

for the stationary one, ive used an inflatable barrier kit to keep the transport size down (7 moveable walls, hell yah) and i think with a little more tinkering everything should be able to be fit into 2 bags and the barrier case (+dragging around the canister and the portable air pump).

My first run with the stationary one on the ground didnt work out, and only caused a temperature decrease down to 10c, but i think i used too much area for too little air pressure.

i wonder if the o2 was part of the problem for the cryo tanks as wekk, maybe the air tank's lower (higher?) heat capacity might allow it to transfer more frost out, or might prevent it from losing too much Kpa from cold moles.

Upon further investigation, the stationary model will take WAY too long to cool down without multiple coolers, at least for an area that size. I might be able to do something with a 3 tile, 1 usable tile one, but that seems too small to be useful. Still, I'll try and prototype a stationary one tomorrow. Inflatable barrier's good, but I just need a stack of rglass and 2 airlock electronics for mine.

EDIT- Yeah, higher heat capacity's one of the reasons it works better.

[KingKire]

Also, to be tested: heat exchanger pipes:
-Possibly can be used to lower the temp down of a room without wasting gas, which means we can kick out the extra compressors.

[Jroinc1]

Also, to be tested: heat exchanger pipes:
-Possibly can be used to lower the temp down of a room without wasting gas, which means we can kick out the extra compressors.

STUPIDLY buggy, but go ahead if you want. Personally, the portable version worked so well that I don't see the need for the clunky stationary one anymore.

[KingKire]

I figure its important to test out all the points, so if people want to take the design and maybe see some further improvements.

also, the next testing invention update is going to be some smoke and foam mixes, which i think i've made some cool discovery's.

OHH, if the heat exchanger pipes do work, that means we can leave out the air pump and the pressure pumps. leaving only the freezer, the HE pipes, and the canister, which would greatly lower the footprint, as well as allowing multiple cold cells so you can use them in a cycle. hmmm