Hughgent - Moderator Application

[Hughgent]

Byond ID: Hughgent

Colonial Marines Character: Harry Granite

Age:30

Gender: Male

Timezone: CST (-6:00)

On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate?
5-10. school takes up my daylight hours.

Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)?
Real world jobs. Logistics coordinator.

Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers?
I can’t say for sure. I remember the time before the Almayer and being horribly lost during the transition.

What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM?
Since I’ve found CM I haven’t really gone back to the others. But, I recall Basil, TGstation, and goon. I really enjoy the structure.

Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made:
None

Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where?
No

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines?
never

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for?
no

Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)?
Not personally, however I have heard of it and I presume it’s like other chat programs.

Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.

1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
Player is presumably the shooter and sending the Ahelp. Best answer would be a direct link to the marine law page along with a brief explanation that the player is in the wrong. Depending on Ahelp volume.

2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.
“embrace the suck” has never been more appropriate. Jokes aside, Fixing the breach via commands is necessary as the MT’s are not capable of getting to EVA gear. OOC may be needed to calm players depending on the amount of damage done. Probable causes of the breach range from Dissembling the wall (PM the player and hand out short ban.) C4 (PM the player and investigate cause), and Rocket misfire (depending on situation this may be purely accidental.)

3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.
Calling for a Mentor would be appropriate. But the next best step would be to talk to him about the squads and their colors and what their ID badge says, which should put them on the right track.

4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
Depending on the situation, severity of their situation, amount of Ahelps. The buck stops here at me. Should the options I give the player not be satisfactory, the final option for them will be to make an appeal on the forums.

5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.
The forum has rules, including naming rules. Give them a link and ask them to change, making a note on their account. Should it not happen, hand out a minor ban along with the rules a second time.

6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present.
MP’s will take care of this eventually. Nothing needs to be done until shots start flying, and even then maybe not.

7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
Remind him of the RP rules and level of knowledge a squad medic has. Ask him to finish the immediate surgery and to not continue further surgerys. However, this has been coded out I believe.

8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
IC as much as possible. Wey-Yu Faxes, Command Messages, Queen thoughts. Maybe an ERT depending on the Deadchat.

9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile IRON BEAR and the IRON BEAR Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
This isn’t a problem, the round will restart soon. Besides, the characters are still hostile to each other even if the “round” is finishing. Replying with a simple “your characters still hate each other. Besides, it’ll restart soon enough.”

10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.
MP’s and the other Marines will sort this person out soon. Depending on how bad it gets, such as if the marine starts to hide, then sending a message reminding them of the RP rules would be appropriate.

11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
Tell him that this is an example of extreme escalation. If the other marine punched you should have punched back. Make a note and if this happens again hand out a ban as it’s becoming a trend.

12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.
Ask on the discord or Slack for whomever is available. Beyond that do my best.

13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
Remind him that they are on a spaceship orbiting another planet surrounded by 2d spacemen. This is nothing to get angry about.

14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
Search for the Ckey and issue a temporary ban attaching a note to the player about the incident. Escalate to a Long-term ban if possible. No one should have to play with this person.

15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.
Sometimes people get disoriented. PM’ing the player asking why seems prudent.

16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
As humorous as that is, everything is good in moderation. So long as the memes are a one off thing I see no reason to intervene. If it is obnoxious, then I would contact the player.

17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".
Although true, sometimes people play both marines and aliens regularly and mess up occasionally. Placate the player by saying you’ll investigate and keep an eye on Hive chat, intervening if necessary.

18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.
This slip of the tongue is unlikely. A quick PM reminding him that he doesn’t know anything about the threat should be sufficient. Next is adding a note about the incident which may present a pattern that could lead to the player losing their privileges of being command staff.

19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
This may be evidence of an out of game vendetta as there seems to have been no attempt at talking it out with the other player. Should this have been the result of a heated argument, good RP. Overall there should be time to investigate, however this will be near the end of round and replying the Ahelps with a don’t worry, you’ll get to try again soon should be sufficient.

20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
Talk to them on the Slack/Discord. Not everyone can remember every rule at every moment. We can only hope to improve.

20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
Report it in Slack/Discord so that other staff can see it in action.

21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.
Words don’t hurt.

Any additional information you'd like to add?
slc97 recommended that I do this. His recommendation is based on players who have seen me in game. I can only hope to measure up.

[Tharinoma]

Hello Hughgent,

Here's a review of your application :
1. Uhm... so you're saying there's nothing wrong with shooting people at roundstart as long as you don't complain when MPs detain you?
2. Players shouldn't be able to breach the way you've described (unless there's a bug ofc), outer walls should be unkillable. I can think of two ways the ship can be breached in a "legit" way...
3. no wiki link? Wiki is a great tool.
4. Okay, but what do you do, what do you tell the player?

8.Just so you know, mods don't have access to ERTs at all.
9.How would you deal with a marine shooting another marine after round end?
10.Did you know about this? viewtopic.php?f=57&t=16108

15. Pming the player is a good start, but then what?
16.PM the player, then what? Also, viewtopic.php?f=57&t=14800
17.When does intervening become necessary, how do you intervene, why when where... I suggest you re read the rules and re answer this one.

19.So you're not going to investigate and just dismiss it with that message? What if it's not good RP born out of a heated argument?

20a. You'll want to PM evidence privately to a senior+

You appear to lack proper understanding of some rules and some common knowedge I'd expect of any experienced player. And there is a severe lack of detail in some if not most of your answers. I'll wait for your response and further feedback but so far, I'm not convinced.

[Solarmare]

As far as 14 goes, what do you do if you find them carrying out this sort of grief when they already have a note on them doing this and a week ban for it?

And with 18, what offense is done and what are you noting about it?

You seem to have some gaps of necessary knowledge as tharonima mentioned, so I'll want to see your responses.

[Hughgent]

Tharinoma: Thank you.
1. As is the case in many of these scenarios, there is a lot of information missing that sways things. Was this a single shot? a rampage? A single shot maybe excusable, a rampage surely isn't.
2. I believe a lot of these questions were written back when many of these things were possible. I've attempted to answer the questions in the theoretical sense rather than ignoring it.
3. Wiki is a great tool. thank you for the suggestion.
4. This is a fun bit of psychology. Giving a person a choice allows them to take ownership of their decision, even if the two choices are not what they would prefer. In this case it would be something like "You can wait patiently for someone else to contact you or you can take a break from the game."
8. the more you know!
9. Rules say immediate 3-hour ban, no exceptions.
10. It's never impacted me personally, sounds like more 3-hour bans/warnings. it's always a learning process.
15. Depending on their reaction, which is skewed towards innocent mistake, They may require a xeno ban. Making notes still seems prudent.
16. The clarification says 3-hour ban after one warning. So it seems that I should give a warning about memes and make a note for the first offense.
17. Another attempt then. Give them a link to the role play guidelines which does state that Xeno's are hive minds that understand things not truly through English but the representation of those words as thought images.
19. I would investigate if there is time. There doesn't seem to be a hard and fast rule on this, but the closest it seems is end of round griefing which is a 3-hour ban.
20a. Will do should it occur.

Solarmare: Also appreciated.
14. it's time to escalate to a permanent ban in my opinion.
18. this would be poor RP and the command staff should be held to a higher standard than the marines. keeping the player away from command roles may be necessary.

[Solarmare]

Your response to 18 is wrong, the offense is metagaming. As far as 18 goes, what is the proper procedure to carry out a perma? As with 13 as well, racism and such are only allowed to a minor extent. It needs to be dealt with if it goes beyond that and your answer doesn't leave me convinced that you'll deal with it if it exceeds the wiggle room mentioned in the server rules. With 15 you can try to make out what occurred, but there's not necessarily a reason to assume innocence if you're trying to figure out what occurred with a larva that run on the front line specifically.

We have a clear rule against metagaming and I would think that would be an obvious answer to my query on 18, so I'm not convinced you have a good enough grasp on the server rules currently.
I'll remain neutral until I see further responses from other moderators and what you have to say regarding their responses.

[NethIafins]

Your answers to other staff members did not sway my decision. -1
Play month or two more in game, reread rules so you get actual deep understanding of them.

I'm not saying that because I don't want you moderate this server, but because you will get bombarded with questions and issues from players, and if you don't have a deep idea about Rules As Intended you will make mistakes under pressure.

I strongly advice you to reapply in a month or two. Do it... You have something that will make you a good mod, you have to train your rule understanding though

[Hughgent]

Understandable. Thank you to everyone. I'll withdraw for now.

[Emeraldblood]

No one is saying you need to withdraw from the application and if you think you can still prove you're good enough to make it in this thread despite any mistakes, it would shine a good outlook on you personally. Even if you don't make it, it's good to show that you want to be a staff and even if you didn't do a great job this time, you have the energy to do it, which would look good on your next application.

[NethIafins]

Yeah man, next chance you will get will be in a month.
Better clear now any questions you have. As long as you are polite it will have 0 negative consequence on your next attempt

There is also a non zero chance you will sway mine or others opinions into positive one

[Skysoldier]

I'm gonna go with -1, as others said, I don't think you have a good understanding on the rules to make it.

with that said, I believe you shouldn't just flat out think of withdrawing and be discouraged, after all the application is still ongoing, you could research and basically write this again.

How about this, give the rules another read, maybe read some other good applications in the past and give some detailed answers again on what you think are really important rules related ones.

[Adralimas]

I'm nuetral on this one. The trial is a trial for a reason however, But maybe this might need a little work. If you're denied you can always ask me any questions about moderating on discord, Or review all of the accepted applications for good ideas.

[Solarmare]

I think I'll give a -1 to this application as I'm not sure you have the knowledge to be a trial currently, but making an application at all is a good initiative. Overall I'd say go over the server rules and understand them, and check over other accepted applications for anything notable in them. I think I'd support an application at a later point in time if you could work on what was pointed out and show that in your answers.

[Grimcad]

Alright. I'm pretty on the fence here at the moment so I would like to give you a tough situation. The kind of situation that I'm sure you have handed to you on the first day with Trial Mod Luck. And I would like you answer about what you would do and how you would proceed to solve the situation. Please take your time and use ALL YOUR RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE TO ANSWER. Depending on how you answer I will have follow ups for you. If you have questions for me, don't put them here, but rather PM me personally on here or Discord.

You get three ahleps, one right after another.

1. [From Harry Truman] Hi yeah, sorry to bother you, I just shot George Washington, and accidently killed him. He was punching Franklin Roosevelt, the PO and took a few shots at him too, narrowly missing me. He was obviously trying to kill him. I'm dragging him to medbay now.

2. [From Abraham Lincoln] This pilot was being a jerk to me. I'm the other PO and this guy Franklin Roosevelt was drunk, telling me he was in command, that he was my superior and that I would have to answer to him. And do what all he says. And that's all BS. Making up all sorts of crap, that's against the rules. Then he wouldn't Fly down to DS2 and pick up wounded marines trying to evac. And then he just shot George Washington.

3. [From George Washington] Yo some crap just went down. Harry Truman just up and shot me with for no reason. They NEED to get punished. Franklin Roosevelt was refusing to go down and evac wounded marines, so I went to hit him, in disarm, shake him up you know. Then he punches me and I punch back. The other PO joins in cause Roosevelt was a jerk. So we are fighting then Roosevelt pulls out a gun and blasts me, 88 burst to the chest, which is messed up, he should get in trouble too. Then this Truman guy comes up, punches me, and then kills me with a point blank slug to the chest. That crap is messed up and you gotta do something about it now. You cant just shoot someone like that. Do something and then tell me what you did.

George Washington is also starting to complain in dead chat.... loudly.

Try to include as much info as you can in your answer, because I don't want this to really turn into a back and forth on the App. You can also PM me here or on Discord.

[Jerkface00]

Application withdrawn by applicant.