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Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Urytion » 24 Sep 2018, 09:51

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Colonial Marines Character: Tracee 'Quick Clot' Parker

Age: 23

Gender: M

Timezone: ACST 10:30+

On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate?
I usually play a couple round a night, but I'm pretty flexible if we're shorthanded. I'd say 10-15.

Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)?

Yes. Admin on Drymouth Gulch, Mentor here, Admin on a WoW private server from back in the WOTLK days.

Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers?
No. I don't think so.

What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM?
I don't play on other servers much anymore. 1713 is really the only other one I go to now.
Used to play Baystation.

Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made:

viewtopic.php?f=145&t=18601 (Synth, ongoing)

Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where?
No.

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines?
Yes. viewtopic.php?f=87&t=15582&p=170847#p170847 Purge round WGW memey permaban, appealed, probation, passed.

Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for?
Yes. Paradise. I made poked fun at Vulpakins and furries in OOC. Permabanned.

Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)?

A little. I used it when I was a mentor, but I'm not completely clued up on the ins and outs.

Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.

1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
This is either a misclick or grief. PM them and their victim to get their story and check their notes. If it's a misclick then allow them to play it out IC. If from the stories from both and the notes it seems to be grief, ban for a length determined by their previous notes.

2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.
Should be impossible. Ask admins if they had any involvement with it (such as an event). If it's not a deliberate thing, plug it.

3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.
Sic a mentor on them. If there are no mentors and no tickets, I'd handle it myself. They'd need walking through basic equipment and getting down to the planet.

4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
Players don't have the right to demand to speak to an admin+. Being rude to staff can increase ban length or even net a three hour ban if it's severe enough. Either way resolve the ahelp and add a note for hostility to staff.

5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.
Doesn't matter how long they've had the name. Rules are rules. Staff are not omniscient and can't notice every naming violation. Ask them to change it for the next round and add a note.

6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present.
Assuming this is all taking place on the ship and he isn't getting ready for deployment, that's an IC issue. If he was causing problems or generated an ahelp about him, I'd PM to get his intentions. Also I would check his notes to see if this is a history of behaviour

7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
Literally impossible. Assuming it were possible, doctors aren't required to be in the FOB anyway. This is powergaming/playing outside your role. If there was a history of it, I'd jobban them. Otherwise I would warn them and tell them to send the marine to the almayer for surgery.

8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?

I would first send either a Queen Mother or High Command message ordering either side to attack. This would give them a clear indication that something has to happen without breaking the flow of the game. If they STILL didn't engage after that, then I would PM them directly and tell them in clear terms that the game is stagnating and to please engage.

9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile CLF member and the CLF member Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
This is allowed. EORG only applies to friendlies.

10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.
IC issue unless it escalates. This is why we have MPs. If it escalated to disposing of valuable gear (spec equipment, smartguns, etc.) or seriously hurting other marines, then I would intervene.

11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
This sounds like improper escalation. But I would PM both parties to get the full story. If it's exactly as it sounds, that's a ban if there's a note history for similar behaviour. Definitely a warning and noting. If there was more to the story (indicating proper escalation or self defense) then I would allow it to play out but keep an eye on it as it develops.

12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.
If there are no admins online and listening in on msay, I would ask on Slack, and then if that didn't work and it was urgent, I would PM them directly through whatever method I could.

13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
This is an IC issue, but I would keep an eye on it just in case it gets too severe. LOOC message telling them to take it back a notch if it gets too bad, and PMs if it starts to become seriously offensive.

14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
Start by healing the dead. Then apply a ban to the offender. Given the severity I'd give them an immediate week ban, and if they have a history of this sort of behaviour, file a permaban request.

15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.
Message the player to get their side of the story. It could be a genuine accident in which case I would let it slide. But if they were trying to "die so they could leave" or just trolling the xenos, I would warn them about such behaviour being against the rules and apply a note. If they already had a note for it, that would warrant a xeno jobban.

16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
This is LRP. Message them and tell them to stop and apply a note. If there is a history of this behaviour, apply a jobban.

17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".
No it isn't. I would explain that the Xenos can use proper human terminology if they want.

18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.
That's metagaming. I would ping them and warn them that they don't have that sort of information and marines do not know about the existence of xenomorphs. Add a note.

19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
Check speech logs and message both players for the story. If it was roleplayed out correctly, I would allow it. There would need to be some buildup to the situation, and there would need to be no other pods available on that side of the ship. If he just walked in mute to gun down the nearest occupant, that's not okay and I would note and warn.

20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
Use msay to give the correct information so they can resolve it themselves.

20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
Take screenshots and send it to the relevant manager.

21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.

I would commend them on a job well done. Unless it escalates and then it's a rule 2 violation.

Any additional information you'd like to add?
Grimcad said there were people needed in my prime time slot (Australia, 6-midnight) and sure. I'm down.
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 24 Sep 2018, 10:11

So prepare for a mass influx of questions, but I will say the few times I play with you, that you ethier go about as a good RPer or doing meme stuff and some shenanigans. You remind me mostly of sleepy, but based on your application, I think you could be molded into a decent staff member.

Most of your answers are fine, although with number 9 if it happens at round start you can take action. Yeah we do have the MPs, but we want to cut down on the round start shitlery and shenanigans.

I would come up with some extra questions, but I'll give other staff a chance to post them and give my +1/-1

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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Mizari » 24 Sep 2018, 13:15

Why exactly do you want to join staff and/or what qualities do you believe you can contribute to the staff team?

In addition, a player ahelps that the queen is not communication with other xeno's, upon further investigation you see they are not SSD, just very quiet. How would you handle this/if getting involved?

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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Urytion » 24 Sep 2018, 13:34

Mizari wrote:
24 Sep 2018, 13:15
Why exactly do you want to join staff and/or what qualities do you believe you can contribute to the staff team?

In addition, a player ahelps that the queen is not communication with other xeno's, upon further investigation you see they are not SSD, just very quiet. How would you handle this/if getting involved?
I want to join the staff because I like this server and the community, and want to give back. I think I can contribute to staff by keeping the low pop rounds engaging given my experience working on low pop servers like Drymouth. Also my timezone is nice.

Very quiet is a little vague. If they're giving a basic level of instruction that's fine. Not exactly the best play but we can't really police whether people are good at roles or not. If they're not saying anything at all, I'd message them and see if they needed help at all. It's possible they're new and might need a mentor. I'd also check their notes to see if they have a history of going AFK without logging for long periods of time, especially as Queen. If they do, it might be worth considering a Queen jobban.
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Sleepy Retard » 24 Sep 2018, 13:41

Are you applying for staff to poach members for your own servers?

Or do you actually want to help out?
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Urytion » 24 Sep 2018, 13:47

El Defaultio wrote:
24 Sep 2018, 13:41
Are you applying for staff to poach members for your own servers?

Or do you actually want to help out?
If you're referring to the time I was mentor and I made a joke in msay with someone who I was friendly with about joining the server that I was helping develop, I'm amazed you have such a long memory and have seemingly personal offense to it.

Either way, I'd ask you to actually be respectful, as I am to you, despite your poor attitude and apparent personal vendetta. <3
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Sleepy Retard » 24 Sep 2018, 13:50

Urytion wrote:
24 Sep 2018, 13:47
If you're referring to the time I was mentor and I made a joke in msay with someone who I was friendly with about joining the server that I was helping develop, I'm amazed you have such a long memory and have seemingly personal offense to it.

Either way, I'd ask you to actually be respectful, as I am to you, despite your poor attitude and apparent personal vendetta. <3
I ask because it was brought up in a staff chat, and was a reason for your removal as a mentor from what I could gather from staff.. I personally couldn't care less about it, but it's a question I'm going to ask because no one else will.

So, what about it?
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Urytion » 24 Sep 2018, 13:53

El Defaultio wrote:
24 Sep 2018, 13:50
I ask because it was brought up in a staff chat, and was a reason for your removal as a mentor from what I could gather from staff.. I personally couldn't care less about it, but it's a question I'm going to ask because no one else will.

So, what about it?
If I wanted to poach staff, I know enough staff well enough to just ping them on discord. I want to help. Don't be an ass.
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Sleepy Retard » 24 Sep 2018, 14:00

You've been removed from staff, and when I mentioned it you started being passive aggressive - you do realize this is a valid question, right? Your responses are actually curious to me. You want to help out, but the first thing you do is act ridiculous to an important question. Being removed isn't something to be taken lightly - I would know, I was removed before.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a red flag for several staff - I'm just the one bringing it up.
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Urytion » 24 Sep 2018, 14:03

El Defaultio wrote:
24 Sep 2018, 14:00
You've been removed from staff, and when I mentioned it you started being passive aggressive - you do realize this is a valid question, right? Your responses are actually curious to me. You want to help out, but the first thing you do is act ridiculous to an important question. Being removed isn't something to be taken lightly - I would know, I was removed before.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a red flag for several staff - I'm just the one bringing it up.
I am being passive aggressive because of how you phrased it. I would have thought a moderator who has been removed from staff before would be more aware of how to be more diplomatic with their words.

Perhaps in future try "You have been removed from staff before because you were accused of poaching staff. Any comments?" or similar, instead of trying to insinuate that I'm only applying to poach staff and break the rules. You have come off as aggressive and disrespectful, and I believe in treating people the same way they treat me.
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Mizari » 24 Sep 2018, 14:17

-1 from me, bad attitude and history is a big red flag for me. Nothing personal but for servers own security, gonna have to not support this.

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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Tharinoma » 24 Sep 2018, 14:23

I believe in treating people the same way they treat me.
Mods are expected to stay professionnal no matter what shit gets thrown at them. Don't you see this being a problem? This comment is far from the worse you'll see from players as a mod.

Other people being dicks and breaking the rules does not give you the right to do so... Especially in a mod app.
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Omicega » 24 Sep 2018, 14:24

Why didn't you include the thing about being removed from staff -- as opposed to retiring -- in your original post? To me it looks like you deliberately left that out, because saying you were previously a mentor here is a lot different from including the fact that you were apparently flat-out removed for an attempt at recruiting existing staff to another server or something. Being ex-staff is either a big plus or a big minus depending on the reason for the 'ex', and just alluding to the fact that you used to be a mentor doesn't give anyone reading your app in a vacuum the full picture at all.

Sleepy is wrong in saying that nobody else was going to bring it up -- he just managed to beat me to the punch because I was out at the local shopping centre. His confrontational tone aside, I'm surprised you didn't think to include that in your original app -- or to even address it head-on after Sleepy's first post. You might have considered it as just an msay joke, but if you were removed over it then clearly someone thought it was more serious than just banter. I never saw whatever happened for myself, though.

I think you made a big mistake by not addressing this elephant in the room right from the get go, because now it looks as if you were sort of hoping it'd fly under the radar or something.

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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by z a n e b o t » 24 Sep 2018, 14:24

-1 literally flaming other mods in replies, tried to recruit staff in the past for some shitty server.

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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by awan » 24 Sep 2018, 14:25

I'll be honest you are being what I can perceive as quite hostile towards at least elDefaultio.
Now, even though me and eldefaultio might not be best palls. (I was quite harsh in his mod app.)
We are still a staff team and I would rather not have issues like the ones seen above.
If you say it was a joke/minor incident please write out your version.
Also, your reactions in this app can say a lot about you.
I can understand you being upset about what you perceive as false accusations/unfair treatment.

My personal advice to you is to de-escalate this a bit.
Your last few replies are not very productive.

Edit: I think tensions rose a bit quick and fast in here. Expect imp to swing by this topic.
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 24 Sep 2018, 14:30

I would say I don't know of your past as a staff when you were removed as a mentor, but your reaction to sleepy's response, I'm a bit worried that you might be a bit headstrong.

Moderators sometimes butt heads with one another, we don't argue, but we have our disagreements over certain things. I dont wanna see another mod get into a petty screaming match with another mod over a videogame.

I'm gonna stay neutral because I haven't had bad experiences with you, and I think this past issue could be overlooked especially since you claim it was a joke.

That being said, I will await your response to awan.

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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Urytion » 24 Sep 2018, 14:41

awan wrote:
24 Sep 2018, 14:25
I'll be honest you are being what I can perceive as quite hostile towards at least elDefaultio.
Now, even though me and eldefaultio might not be best palls. (I was quite harsh in his mod app.)
We are still a staff team and I would rather not have issues like the ones seen above.
If you say it was a joke/minor incident please write out your version.
Also, your reactions in this app can say a lot about you.
I can understand you being upset about what you perceive as false accusations/unfair treatment.

My personal advice to you is to de-escalate this a bit.
Your last few replies are not very productive.
You're right. I was overly hostile. I'll leave the messages unedited so people can see, but I standby what I said. elDefaultio was just as hostile as I was, and both of us should know better.

As for my version: I don't remember who was involved, as it was a while ago and I have difficulty remembering breakfast. But someone in msay was cracking a joke about an admin or manager or someone being a slave driver/nazi/dick whatever the phrasing they used, and I cracked a joke that I was helping dev a new server and they could come to us and I would treat them just as badly.

Sorry, that was incorrect. I went through my chatlogs with a friend and found the actual story. Someone joked about how they were now on their third trial mod and it was obviously a secret plan to never let him have it. I said "Hey, come join my server where the standards are so low they're going to make me headmin lol".
It was someone I was reasonably familiar with and we had a chuckle. Someone pointed out the joke was in bad taste and against the rules, and we moved on. I was never approached about it by anyone in a managerial position, so I assumed it was all fine. In fact, I was told my removal was about inactivity, which would be fair because my university workload got real big and I wasn't on as much. That's the reason I didn't bring it up. Because I assumed it was a non-issue.

EDIT: Saw your edit. If Imp wants to erase some comments for breaking Rule 1, that's more than fair. But I'll be leaving them because I think erasing them would be a disservice.
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Re: Urytion - Moderator Application

Post by Imperator_Titan » 24 Sep 2018, 15:01

This is being denied before it overescalates. You have a terrible attitude, not one we're looking for from staff members. If you're going to lose your cool over a staff member's question, you're not going to hold up if a player tries to call you out.

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