LordeKilly - Moderator Application

[LordeKilly]

@Felk
But we can patch walls, we can heal. It can be fixed and noted, and if they continue to do it, punishment should be given. But unintentionally breaching or doing something that opens up a window shouldn't be banworthy. That's unfair. If someone does it to kill people or intentionally hurt others, yeah, it deserves a ban, right there on the spot.

Also, the reason I wrote "a mysterious voice in your head" was the response to a pray text, I forgot the verb. It's not from Centcom, centcom wouldn't even respond to the messege, just the "gods." [staff]

You misinterpreted what I meant or did not fully read it, that's probably why it didn't make sense why I was asking why I didn't make sense.

[Mordrehel]

What hes referring to is the fact that it appears within this thread that you've grown increasingly defensive and have started to albeit in a veiled manner lash out at us. "I can do no wrong" is what you seem to be saying in the eyes of most of us, we say something and you challenge us to prove it like you can't possibly have gone wrong unless we have undeniable proof.

I personally don't really have a side I just don't like how your personality seems to butt with others creating uncomfortable circumstances such as this one.

[Lostmixup]

While I understand him trying to defend himself, there seems to be an overwhelming negative response to him. I say -1 now.

[speedybst]

Right, Jihad is a religiously-charged word, this is why I disagree with your use of it, and at no point did I mean it as a personal attack - were it meant as such, I would have made it clearly so and outside of this medium.

The tantrum spiral i am referring to is your inability to accept critic of your responses and instead of taking the advice offered to improve your application, you instead arched up and started trying to defend against a perceived attack, which is what I remember of your interactions with UM in the past, where you would grow more and more argumentative as you went, barbing your comments with veiled antagonism.

Were I actually attacking you, mate, you would know it fairly bloody quickly. I have no use for cloak-and-dagger with insults and attacks.

[apophis775]

Get back onto the fucking topic guys.

[LordeKilly]

@Mord, I was not trying to come off as that kind of person, but i think it's fair I can defend myself or correct someone, ask questions why. I admit I have a turtle's personality though.

@speedy, I think we all had our fair share of fights and escalations in the staff skype chat, but if this is about that surgery thing, i'm sorry. Also, I'm using Jihad in the sense of how you'd use a crusade. In hindsight, I probably could have used a crusade.

[Lostmixup]

Another update on my opinion, I don't like your application in general, it came off as "unprofessional" to me. While you can't be that professional on the internet, I have standards that you personally didn't meet IMO. I also find your answers to be inadequate, and not detailed enough.

[Mordrehel]

I'm starting to feel like this is a hate brigade rather than legitimate criticism... we should probably curb what we're saying a little bit.

[speedybst]

Surgery thing? Can't say i remember any such event, nor would I have used anything IC against you. The only thing I would hold against you would be previous abuse of power.
As for the Jihad point, I'm not going to retract my opinion on that, but i am going to stop discussing it - nothing will be gained from continuing the discussion about it.

I reread the application, and whilst It has some answers I could be happy with, it also had a few that I wasn't so happy with and i don't like your reasoning for attempting to become a moderator again - "Now I can play again since it's the summer and i'm a loser with no life". I Just don't feel like your serious about it with this reasoning.
I also can see that friction appears to be occurring between you and some of the old staff who remember you, including myself. Now, some of the newer staff members would like to see you get a trial period, to see if you have improved from your time before. On a personal level, from our past dealings, I admit that I wouldn't enjoy working with you again. I would tolerate it and should you prove to be better than you were previously were, I would gladly work with you. However, I will still be remaining an overall -1 to you application, as I feel that the interstaff friction would be detrimental to the team, nor that you have anything to add to the smooth running of the server.

[LordeKilly]

I'm not trying to change your answer, speed, and I'm perfectly ok with anyone who puts a -1, I put the, "I'm a loser with no life" as a joke, which I though you'd all pick up on.

And to the old staff members, was I abusive? Because to be honest, I was pretty conservative and scared to issue bans, I always checked with admins before doing something. Also, i got along with a lot of people, an exception being ancient, which a lot of people were also conflicting with.

[Mordrehel]

Fuck it, after a long Skype conversation and what seems to be us speculating far too much I'm inclined to think that maybe we should at least give this guy a chance at being a trial mod. That period will tell us for sure if they'll work well with the staff or not. Objectively speaking, the staff issues are mostly created by own own negative reactions rather than any sort of initiative of his own.

[Kyrac]

After skimming, and intently reading a lot of posts. I've quoted something, although an application is not meant to be joked with. We also get many players a day, so don't worry about dishing out a ban on a toxic player.

Don't make me regret this.
+1
'If it doesn't work out, we fire his ass.' -Apophis

[LordeKilly]

Those are apop's wise words. Even I know that.

[MrGabol100]

That's all good and well you're Muslim, but the rest of the world isn't. I have no issues with any religion and am friends with more than a few Muslims myself, but that still doesn't give you the right to then force a statement based on your religion on the rest of us - you would not enjoy it were i to show how diametrically opposed to organised religion i am now would you? And concentration camp references? The last time this occur a number of staff flat out stop coming in for a few days, we disagreed with it that much. And on the first time offenders remark, it is expected that you should have read the rules before actively joining the server. Should you choose to ignore them by not reading them in the first place, then to my mind you deserve everything that is coming your way.

Changing to a flat out -1, i'm starting to see the tantrum spiral all over again - you did this last time and you're doing it again.

Wait...

He didn't enforce his religion in anyone...

And do you understand that a holy jihad isn't a fucking actual thing and just a joke, because Jihadism is another thing, and that's a wordplay with Holy Crusade...

You understand that? Right? Sorry for putting my five cents here, but you are acussing him of enforcing his religion on you, and It's not even his religion, you can't fucking acuss him of enforcing his religion for a joke, nor calling him Jihadist.

[Allan1234]

I dont much remember you from your tiral period, (that most likely is not good) but you do seem farliy defensive against queistions rasied against you as well as being offensive against other staff members, and for the record failing even a single trial period useally means you will never get another chancel

also your anwsres do really seem iffy on the level of how we handle things. -1

more so, Both of you leave religion out of this before i smack you

[Fickmacher]

Since this application has become so polarized, I feel inclined to add in more opinion on this.

As far as Felkvir's concern of the breach question, I have seen on other applications that staff have, assuming that there are no prior issues with said hypothetical player, encouraged leniancy and issuing a warning, even if the rules state a mandatory 24 hour minimum ban. So on this particular issue, I am inclined to agree with the applicant.

Now, on to my previous ly stated issue: I am concerned that Lordekilly would be able to proffessionally answe ahelps and mesh with the staff SOLELY based on the lack of professionalism on the application. Joking is fine for staff and players, but I expect a genuine effort of professionalism when applying to be a staff member.

As far as Lordekilly previously being a staff member: I wasn't there. The arguments that staff members who were there make are perfectly valid, but are irrelevant for any evaluations the rest of us make.

To address Lordekilly's response to my previous comments: thanks for clearing up what you meant by your time available.

Additional comments, responses, etc:

Lordekilly has done a decent, although not spectacular, job of responding to staff concerns. His tone is at least leveled.

Every staff member has a right to their opinions here. May we please refrain from making statements on behalf of the rest of the staff or dissenting opinions. Any differing in opinions should be taken to Skype or personal messaging.

If Lordekilly is accepted as a trialmod, I will give him as fair of a chance as anyone else accepted.

Finally, I retain what I have said here and in my previous post, only altering my final verdict as a neutral, leaning towards -1.

[Rahlzel]

I'm going to vote based on the application and ignore all the replies.

Good grammar/spelling.
Calm, non-combative.
Goofy, fun countenance.

The "loser with no life" statement, while obviously joking, is usually best left out of applications where the person's intentions and personality are viewed with earnest.

Overall, +1

Whatever is in the following 2 pages of replies is something we'll find out for sure when he's an official staff member. If it's bad, he gets removed. It's that simple.

[Kovain1812]

I dont think that this guy plays well with others, just from the fallout in these comments, i cam imagine something like this happening OOC in game and ruining the round for everyone
[EDIT] -1

[apophis775]

Remember, +1 -1 and Neutral, isn't actual votes or anything, the final decision is left to headstaff, it's just a way for us to take input.

[Fickmacher]

Remember, +1 -1 and Neutral, isn't actual votes or anything, the final decision is left to headstaff, it's just a way for us to take input.

It's basically like Rotten Tomatoes.

[Allan1234]

i beliave unknown is bringing logs on killy

[UnknownMurder]

While trying to take this seriously as a fellow admin said something about you confusing everyone with 'metagaming' about one alien and so, I searched through logs... However, it was irrelevant.. But.. I found some interesting logs.
Was this really the best thing you need to say?

Date: 6/6/15
[17:56:11]SAY: lordekilly/LordeKilly : Syndies. I got 30 on it.
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[17:57:32]SAY: lordekilly/LordeKilly : Suck a dick, chief.
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[17:51:22]SAY: lordekilly/LordeKilly : He wasn't my boyfriend though.
[17:51:25]SAY: lordekilly/LordeKilly : He was my /btich/
[17:51:31]SAY: lordekilly/LordeKilly : HAH!
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Honestly, really?

[Fickmacher]

While trying to take this seriously as a fellow admin said something about you confusing everyone with 'metagaming' about one alien and so, I searched through logs... However, it was irrelevant.. But.. I found some interesting logs.
Was this really the best thing you need to say?

Date: 6/6/15
[17:56:11]SAY: lordekilly/LordeKilly : Syndies. I got 30 on it.
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[17:57:32]SAY: lordekilly/LordeKilly : Suck a dick, chief.
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[17:51:22]SAY: lordekilly/LordeKilly : He wasn't my boyfriend though.
[17:51:25]SAY: lordekilly/LordeKilly : He was my /btich/
[17:51:31]SAY: lordekilly/LordeKilly : HAH!
_________

Honestly, really?

After I found the alien hive on cam, he ahelped me. Then complained that I answered it when Juninho was busy and UM was afk. He proceeds to talk down to me in a way of 'giving advice' and telling me how to mod in general. I found him to be difficult to deal with in game, so -1 now.

[LordeKilly]

@UM, everyone has their own level of maturity in game? I don't see how that's relevant to how I'd act when moderating, because it isn't. And if anything, UM, you probably shouldn't be posting pictures of people acting immature. You've done your fair share of eccentric and odd centcom reports, everyone has seen atleast once on their time on the server.

@Fick, I ahelped that someone metagamed finding the hive and then CALLING it a hive, and then you responded with something on the lines of, "stop crying." Then I told you to not respond to an ahelp that includes you, because it's biased. You continued to argue and then kept saying, "stop arguing" when you were the one sending the messages. If anything, you were the bad guy in that situation.


Edit: And before the "maturity is key, even on the forums/ingame"
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[Rahlzel]

LordeKilly doesn't afraid of anything.

It's admirable that you're standing your ground and I'm agreeing with everything you're writing thus far (Unknown - again with the eccentric CC announcements. Take the hint.), but I question your motives calling out the very same people that you might end up working with.