Phoenix - Moderator Application
- PhoenixTheAmazing
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Phoenix - Moderator Application
Byond ID: PhoenixTheAmazing
Colonial Marines Character: Regor Grenfelt
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Timezone: Pacific Time Zone
On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate?
It fluctuates, but I tend to be available in the evenings of most days.
Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)?
This is probably the second time I've done some moderating. I was a Mod for a Rust server a year or two back that shutdown due to the Owner being out of it, but it did pretty well for awhile.
Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers?
I'm unsure of what this means other than previous Maps, but yeah, I've played on the Sulaco and then on, but not other servers.
What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM?
I play on Eternia, rarely Aurorastation, and Yogstation.
Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made:
I have none.
Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where?
Not currently.
Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines?
Nope! I'm as soapy and clean as a baby's bottom.
Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for?
Nope! I've made sure to follow the rules in every server I go to.
Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)?
Not entirely, but I went over it, and it doesn't seem too wholly complicated, easy to use, and simple to adjust to.
Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.
1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
Depends on the situation, but as it stands, it can vary from an accidental discharge, to a Baldie in his underwear causing trouble for the sake of causing trouble. If it's the first, I'd freeze him and PM him to see what the situation was, and if it's what I suspected, I'll unfreeze him and tell him to watch his fire. If it's the second, freeze, check notes, and try to get a response on why he's shooting fellow marines. If he doesn't respond, and the results of his actions are severe, (multiple marines injured or dead), it probably result in a lengthy ban, thanks to his griefing and RDM (and or pass incidents if the notes indicate he's a troublemaker.) Of course, if he does respond and give a reason, it would still result in a 3hr ban after I noted for people to watch for this certain behavior in the future, and make sure he's directed to weapon safety/also learn how not to shoot another marine.
2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.
If it's caused by the drop-ship, I'd leave it as it is. Of course, if it's not caused by the drop-ship, check the logs and see what happened, send a PM to the person(s) that did it, and issue a warning and put a note(s) on aforementioned individual(s). If this person continuously keeps up this behavior, I'd ban them for at least 3 hours, write a note, and heal the people affected by their dickbaggery.
3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.
PM him and try to get a response, and if he doesn't respond, tell him how to respond by clicking on my name in the chatbox, due to the fact that there's a possibility they are new to SS13. If they respond yes, however, refer them to a mentor, and if there are no mentors, link them to the Marine Quickstart guide. I'd also ping an Alert on Slack for Mentors.
4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
If a player is having a problem with my assistance and requests an Admin, I'd politely ask them to keep civil and let me find one for them to talk to. If there is no Admins avaliable, I'd refer them to the forums, and also ask them to tell me their complaint or grievance so I may solve it myself, or tell the Admins about it later, if need be.
I'd also try to ping any Admins available on Slack if at all possible, and note that the player has a tendency to be rude.
5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.
I'd tell them that it's fine, but they'll have to change it next round for the sake of our rules, and it's a problem now than it was before. I'd tell them to just keep calm, try something appropriate, and refer them back to the rules if they want to double check. If the player chooses another equally rule-breaking name, I'd freeze them, ask them why they did it, and if I were given an invalid response, I'd note their behavior, give them a two hour ban, and refer them to the rules to read over once again, and also tell them to appeal the name on the forums if they wish to /really/ really use it.
6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present.
It's an IC problem as far as it goes, but if no one acknowledges or sees such going on and the MPs aren't doing anything, I'd ping them to check around the general area where the MT is for unauthorized equipment. If no one has yet to do anything, and refuses to, I would ping the MT and tell him to drop the gear. If he doesn't, note it and warn him one more time. If not then, apply a small 20 minute ban with a referral to the rules (and Marine Law.)
7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
Check notes for any previous instances, PM them to make them close the incision immediately, and and they are not allowed to do surgery as a Medic. I'd then note this, warn them, and send them on their way. If they have previous notes however, I would job ban them, possibly add in a smaller ban to go with it (20-30 minutes) and give them time to re-read the rules, along with telling them to appeal if they wish to be medic again.
8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
SM the Commander to round up Marines and attack the rest of the hive. If he refuses, SM the Xeno Queen to gather up and avenge their Hive losses.
9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile IRON BEAR and the IRON BEAR Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
I'd tell them that Marines are allowed to shoot a hostile ERT at the end of the round, using AHelper to inform them of such.
10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.
It's an IC issue, see if the MP solve it. If no one solves the issue, PM them to knock it off, add a warning and a note to them if behavior persists.
11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
Aheal the victim while checking the killer's notes. If he's done this before, one day ban. If not, 3 hour ban and add a note for his behavior.
12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.
PM an Admin. If there aren't any on, ping on Slack and try to get them in. If there are none available, make a note about the incident and inform an Admin whenever he/she is available.
13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
I'd tell them that is simply how roleplay is, but if they truly find it offensive to themselves personally (even though that's incredibly silly, it's In Character), they can state in LOOC to tell them to knock it off.
14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
Check notes. If it's the first incident, ban for three hours. If it's a common trend, ban for a day, and add another note. A-Heal everyone hurt and or killed.
15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.
Check notes. If it's the first time and they thought the area was secure, tell them to be more careful in the future, so they didn't waste a Xeno life. If it's a common thing, make another note, and apply a three hour ban.
16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
PM them to keep IC as a Xenomorph. If they keep it up, apply a warning and a note, give them one more chance, and then ban them for three hours if their behavior keeps up. If they have done it in the past multiple times, apply the 3 hour ban immediately.
17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".
Respond using Ahelper to tell them that Xenomorph thoughts translate to English, so by technicality, it's fine to call it a drop-ship.
18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.
OOC state to all staff/Marines to ignore the Aliens bit or anything relating to Aliens on the planet. I would then check the notes of whoever gave Briefing, PM them to see why they did it, and issue a warning and write a note. If they've done it in the past, I'd ban them for three hours, write a note, and ban them from the command job.
19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
Ask witnesses to see if it was properly RP'd out rather than just blatantly. If so, let it go as an RP issue for the players themselves to solve. If not, issue a warning to the murderer and note, and A-Heal the injured Marine (if the situation allows for it) and ban the Marine if he's had a reputation of doing this before.
20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
PM the member and tell them the actual rule or correct information and what they did that made it wrong, so they can avoid that in the future.
20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
PM the Staff Member to knock it off and stop abusing their privileges. I'd then take a picture for evidence and show it to Free or SLC depending on if it's an Admin or Moderator, and explain the situation, while also keeping an eye out for future incidents.
21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.
People shittalk all the time, so I'd let it go unless they started attacking other people for no real reason. I'd PM him to knock it off if he has the intent to be rude/insult people for the sake of it, but I'd be fine if he was only disrespecting me, but I'd make sure to note his behavior for future moderators.
Any additional information you'd like to add?
I'm sort of getting used to Byond again, so I'm not entirely all that great with the system, so I might bonk here and there, so I will apologize in advance if something happens by my hand.
Other than that, it's done! Yay! Can't wait to hear the response.
Thanks for reading this!
-Phoenix
Colonial Marines Character: Regor Grenfelt
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Timezone: Pacific Time Zone
On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate?
It fluctuates, but I tend to be available in the evenings of most days.
Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)?
This is probably the second time I've done some moderating. I was a Mod for a Rust server a year or two back that shutdown due to the Owner being out of it, but it did pretty well for awhile.
Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers?
I'm unsure of what this means other than previous Maps, but yeah, I've played on the Sulaco and then on, but not other servers.
What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM?
I play on Eternia, rarely Aurorastation, and Yogstation.
Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made:
I have none.
Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where?
Not currently.
Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines?
Nope! I'm as soapy and clean as a baby's bottom.
Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for?
Nope! I've made sure to follow the rules in every server I go to.
Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)?
Not entirely, but I went over it, and it doesn't seem too wholly complicated, easy to use, and simple to adjust to.
Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.
1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
Depends on the situation, but as it stands, it can vary from an accidental discharge, to a Baldie in his underwear causing trouble for the sake of causing trouble. If it's the first, I'd freeze him and PM him to see what the situation was, and if it's what I suspected, I'll unfreeze him and tell him to watch his fire. If it's the second, freeze, check notes, and try to get a response on why he's shooting fellow marines. If he doesn't respond, and the results of his actions are severe, (multiple marines injured or dead), it probably result in a lengthy ban, thanks to his griefing and RDM (and or pass incidents if the notes indicate he's a troublemaker.) Of course, if he does respond and give a reason, it would still result in a 3hr ban after I noted for people to watch for this certain behavior in the future, and make sure he's directed to weapon safety/also learn how not to shoot another marine.
2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.
If it's caused by the drop-ship, I'd leave it as it is. Of course, if it's not caused by the drop-ship, check the logs and see what happened, send a PM to the person(s) that did it, and issue a warning and put a note(s) on aforementioned individual(s). If this person continuously keeps up this behavior, I'd ban them for at least 3 hours, write a note, and heal the people affected by their dickbaggery.
3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.
PM him and try to get a response, and if he doesn't respond, tell him how to respond by clicking on my name in the chatbox, due to the fact that there's a possibility they are new to SS13. If they respond yes, however, refer them to a mentor, and if there are no mentors, link them to the Marine Quickstart guide. I'd also ping an Alert on Slack for Mentors.
4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
If a player is having a problem with my assistance and requests an Admin, I'd politely ask them to keep civil and let me find one for them to talk to. If there is no Admins avaliable, I'd refer them to the forums, and also ask them to tell me their complaint or grievance so I may solve it myself, or tell the Admins about it later, if need be.
I'd also try to ping any Admins available on Slack if at all possible, and note that the player has a tendency to be rude.
5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.
I'd tell them that it's fine, but they'll have to change it next round for the sake of our rules, and it's a problem now than it was before. I'd tell them to just keep calm, try something appropriate, and refer them back to the rules if they want to double check. If the player chooses another equally rule-breaking name, I'd freeze them, ask them why they did it, and if I were given an invalid response, I'd note their behavior, give them a two hour ban, and refer them to the rules to read over once again, and also tell them to appeal the name on the forums if they wish to /really/ really use it.
6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present.
It's an IC problem as far as it goes, but if no one acknowledges or sees such going on and the MPs aren't doing anything, I'd ping them to check around the general area where the MT is for unauthorized equipment. If no one has yet to do anything, and refuses to, I would ping the MT and tell him to drop the gear. If he doesn't, note it and warn him one more time. If not then, apply a small 20 minute ban with a referral to the rules (and Marine Law.)
7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
Check notes for any previous instances, PM them to make them close the incision immediately, and and they are not allowed to do surgery as a Medic. I'd then note this, warn them, and send them on their way. If they have previous notes however, I would job ban them, possibly add in a smaller ban to go with it (20-30 minutes) and give them time to re-read the rules, along with telling them to appeal if they wish to be medic again.
8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
SM the Commander to round up Marines and attack the rest of the hive. If he refuses, SM the Xeno Queen to gather up and avenge their Hive losses.
9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile IRON BEAR and the IRON BEAR Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
I'd tell them that Marines are allowed to shoot a hostile ERT at the end of the round, using AHelper to inform them of such.
10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.
It's an IC issue, see if the MP solve it. If no one solves the issue, PM them to knock it off, add a warning and a note to them if behavior persists.
11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
Aheal the victim while checking the killer's notes. If he's done this before, one day ban. If not, 3 hour ban and add a note for his behavior.
12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.
PM an Admin. If there aren't any on, ping on Slack and try to get them in. If there are none available, make a note about the incident and inform an Admin whenever he/she is available.
13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
I'd tell them that is simply how roleplay is, but if they truly find it offensive to themselves personally (even though that's incredibly silly, it's In Character), they can state in LOOC to tell them to knock it off.
14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
Check notes. If it's the first incident, ban for three hours. If it's a common trend, ban for a day, and add another note. A-Heal everyone hurt and or killed.
15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.
Check notes. If it's the first time and they thought the area was secure, tell them to be more careful in the future, so they didn't waste a Xeno life. If it's a common thing, make another note, and apply a three hour ban.
16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
PM them to keep IC as a Xenomorph. If they keep it up, apply a warning and a note, give them one more chance, and then ban them for three hours if their behavior keeps up. If they have done it in the past multiple times, apply the 3 hour ban immediately.
17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".
Respond using Ahelper to tell them that Xenomorph thoughts translate to English, so by technicality, it's fine to call it a drop-ship.
18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.
OOC state to all staff/Marines to ignore the Aliens bit or anything relating to Aliens on the planet. I would then check the notes of whoever gave Briefing, PM them to see why they did it, and issue a warning and write a note. If they've done it in the past, I'd ban them for three hours, write a note, and ban them from the command job.
19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
Ask witnesses to see if it was properly RP'd out rather than just blatantly. If so, let it go as an RP issue for the players themselves to solve. If not, issue a warning to the murderer and note, and A-Heal the injured Marine (if the situation allows for it) and ban the Marine if he's had a reputation of doing this before.
20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
PM the member and tell them the actual rule or correct information and what they did that made it wrong, so they can avoid that in the future.
20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
PM the Staff Member to knock it off and stop abusing their privileges. I'd then take a picture for evidence and show it to Free or SLC depending on if it's an Admin or Moderator, and explain the situation, while also keeping an eye out for future incidents.
21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.
People shittalk all the time, so I'd let it go unless they started attacking other people for no real reason. I'd PM him to knock it off if he has the intent to be rude/insult people for the sake of it, but I'd be fine if he was only disrespecting me, but I'd make sure to note his behavior for future moderators.
Any additional information you'd like to add?
I'm sort of getting used to Byond again, so I'm not entirely all that great with the system, so I might bonk here and there, so I will apologize in advance if something happens by my hand.
Other than that, it's done! Yay! Can't wait to hear the response.
Thanks for reading this!
-Phoenix
M' name is Regor, Regor Grenfelt, and 'm yer goddamn Captain, kiddie.
- RedOktober12
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Your application is thourough and you show evidence of having thought your answers through. I'm not personally familiar with you on the server, but timezones drive the best of us apart and are generally a bitch.
The issues I can identify mostly arise from an unfamiliarity with protocol. Your ban times aren't quite to our procedures, but they're all reasonable. I'd have liked you to mention navigating the notes system a bit more, but all that can and will be taught in a trial. It's clear you've taken the time to read other applications and absorbed prior staff criticism. I'd personally take a slightly stricter attitude to some of the situations, but frankly I'd trust you to develop your own style of moderation over time.
All I personally look for in these applications is maturity, common sense, and a capacity and desire to learn. You've demonstrated those qualities in spades throughout your app!
All in all, a pretty strong application. An easy plus one from me!
The issues I can identify mostly arise from an unfamiliarity with protocol. Your ban times aren't quite to our procedures, but they're all reasonable. I'd have liked you to mention navigating the notes system a bit more, but all that can and will be taught in a trial. It's clear you've taken the time to read other applications and absorbed prior staff criticism. I'd personally take a slightly stricter attitude to some of the situations, but frankly I'd trust you to develop your own style of moderation over time.
All I personally look for in these applications is maturity, common sense, and a capacity and desire to learn. You've demonstrated those qualities in spades throughout your app!
All in all, a pretty strong application. An easy plus one from me!
Valentina McTavish
- Pictish20
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
I wish to point out that Phoenix's forum account was only made today.
Charlton 'Stiffy' Cavalet-I'm probably in the CIC (or CL's office), by choice or RNG, who knows.
9/19 Wins per rounds ratio as Commander
I also play as the synthetic named Lucien, and I am an ex-mentor.
"My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent. I shall attack." - Ferdinand Foch
9/19 Wins per rounds ratio as Commander
I also play as the synthetic named Lucien, and I am an ex-mentor.
"My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent. I shall attack." - Ferdinand Foch
- PhoenixTheAmazing
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
I was recommended by Nero, and hadn't known about this Forum until recently. So I had made the account for the fact that it was available to me, played CM for awhile, but this is the first time on the forums.
M' name is Regor, Regor Grenfelt, and 'm yer goddamn Captain, kiddie.
- Karmac
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Forum activity is something to improve on for sure but you won't be denied for not having any if the application is good.
Garth Pawolski, or is it Powalski?
Back in action.
Back in action.
- Tharinoma
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Hello Phoenix2
I'm (obviously) one of these people that believe a high forum post count isn't a requirement to be part of the staff. However, I strongly believe the forums are an important part of the game and all staff members should keep up to date with what happens there. They should be familiar with the process of applications, appeals, whitelists, and general discussions. I wouldn't mind a mod that never posted on forums... I'm not so sure about someone that didn't "known about this Forum until recently", or if it's his "first time on the forums".
A few questions on your answers :
1.Why do you feel it's necessary to freeze the culprit?
15. No xeno ban? 3h seems very lenient for someone who "commonly" suicides as larva.
"Warned for having a pistol as the CMP on code green [...] mentioned they were new to military police. by x(x) on Thu, August 24th of 2017 "
The note above indicates you aren't familiar with the MP job, and it's rather recent. I don't think mods need to know everything about the game mechanics, (there are many things I myself don't know about), but being familiar with the job of MPs is important in my eyes, we get quite a few ahelps about arrests, and it helps to know what it's like to be the MP.
Your application is solid, and looks like you put effort in it. I generally agree with RedOktober12's post. The ban times are a little weird but that's to be expected.
Neutral leaning +1.
I'm (obviously) one of these people that believe a high forum post count isn't a requirement to be part of the staff. However, I strongly believe the forums are an important part of the game and all staff members should keep up to date with what happens there. They should be familiar with the process of applications, appeals, whitelists, and general discussions. I wouldn't mind a mod that never posted on forums... I'm not so sure about someone that didn't "known about this Forum until recently", or if it's his "first time on the forums".
A few questions on your answers :
1.Why do you feel it's necessary to freeze the culprit?
15. No xeno ban? 3h seems very lenient for someone who "commonly" suicides as larva.
"Warned for having a pistol as the CMP on code green [...] mentioned they were new to military police. by x(x) on Thu, August 24th of 2017 "
The note above indicates you aren't familiar with the MP job, and it's rather recent. I don't think mods need to know everything about the game mechanics, (there are many things I myself don't know about), but being familiar with the job of MPs is important in my eyes, we get quite a few ahelps about arrests, and it helps to know what it's like to be the MP.
Your application is solid, and looks like you put effort in it. I generally agree with RedOktober12's post. The ban times are a little weird but that's to be expected.
Neutral leaning +1.
Player PM from player/(Larva (247)) (?): It's totally realistic to challenge someone to do boxing for a mouse trap, in the middle of a alien occupation.
AHELP: Player/(Player) : HELP HELP HELP I SAWED SOMEOEN HEAD OFF! I DIDNT MEAN TOO
AHELP: Player/(Player) : HELP HELP HELP I SAWED SOMEOEN HEAD OFF! I DIDNT MEAN TOO
- PhoenixTheAmazing
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Hey! I appreciate the responses and critique, and I'll put down my answers to your questions here if that'll help explain my point of view:Tharinoma wrote:Hello Phoenix2
I'm (obviously) one of these people that believe a high forum post count isn't a requirement to be part of the staff. However, I strongly believe the forums are an important part of the game and all staff members should keep up to date with what happens there. They should be familiar with the process of applications, appeals, whitelists, and general discussions. I wouldn't mind a mod that never posted on forums... I'm not so sure about someone that didn't "known about this Forum until recently", or if it's his "first time on the forums".
A few questions on your answers :
1.Why do you feel it's necessary to freeze the culprit?
15. No xeno ban? 3h seems very lenient for someone who "commonly" suicides as larva.
"Warned for having a pistol as the CMP on code green [...] mentioned they were new to military police. by x(x) on Thu, August 24th of 2017 "
The note above indicates you aren't familiar with the MP job, and it's rather recent. I don't think mods need to know everything about the game mechanics, (there are many things I myself don't know about), but being familiar with the job of MPs is important in my eyes, we get quite a few ahelps about arrests, and it helps to know what it's like to be the MP.
Your application is solid, and looks like you put effort in it. I generally agree with RedOktober12's post. The ban times are a little weird but that's to be expected.
Neutral leaning +1.
1. I'd think freezing the culprit is a better idea, so just incase they have that 'if I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go out in style' mentality, they don't go around shooting more people before they're job-banned or whatnot.
15. It really depends on how 'frequent' frequent is. If they come back after the ban, it'll probably result in a job ban, but some people just get up in the morning, scream; 'I'm gonna suicide as a larvae today!' and set about the day, but I understand the want to go and job-ban. As a moderator, I'm trying to come off more lenient than others, so people don't just assume that when a Moderator shows up, it's the harshest punishment, with the harshest way done.
That whole CMP incident was because I found a pistol on the floor from our locker rooms, picked it up, and took it back to Security. I dunno why I got the warning other than just because I had it on my person. I was doing my job as MP to make sure nobody picked it up and tried to cause a ruckus, but hey, maybe that's also against Marine Law? I dunno! That wikipedia is hella large, and people can be prone to forget the more finer details.
But yes! Thank you, I'm glad you liked the work I put in, so I decided to answer your questions. Hope this is alright!
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
I'm almost on the other side of the world of you so this'd explain why I've almost never seen your character.
Your application is over all pretty okay. I'd say you don't act appropriately in certain situations such as #1 and #6, scenario 6 is practically entirely I.C. nowadays which means you'd never get to the point of a P.M. or a warning and in scenario 1, remember, you should keep interference with the round to a minimum. Freezing them if it was a misfire is a bit much, freezing them if it was a straight up shooting isn't however.
For 14. I'd recommend putting out a longer ban than a 3-hour as they came onto the server, shot several people and then logged-off. Even in the case of a confused new player who shot up a bunch of players before being confused and logging out we would likely still ban them for atleast a day if that's the judgement you've decided on with the information available, and very likely 3 days. Quite often a 7-day is applied, it depends on the severity and what exactly they've done.
Whilst being more lenient to see if you can have a player stand-down by talking to them rather than going hard-ass mode is practical and really does work in numerous situations remember it won't work in all. I'd say a majority of scenarios people need a bit of a verbal ass-kicking to get them in gear after a warning. #11 is fair, if they've done it twice before then escalating it due to repeated offences is a good idea, people who repeat offences a lot tend not to learn from their bans very well and require a proper speaking to regarding what'll happen if they continue the way they're going.
I'm not much of one to poke holes in every question there is as you'd certainly learn in a trial period with access to ask other moderators and admins on for advice. I personally find your attitude a good choice for moderator, if you're accepted as a trial moderator you'll find out quickly enough how it goes down in practice as some people are malicious, vicious to other players and staff and others just need a warning to go along their way. Forum activity isn't much of a problem, two posts a day and staying up-to-date would probably be sufficient. Clearing every forum with mark as read and starting anew can be handy.
Good luck. If you have any questions or concerns over a scenario feel free to throw them around here. If you go over what you've said a second time and come back with any clarified answers and questions of your own it's perfectly fine, practically encouraged to do so.
Edit: To clarify, you've put effort into the application and have also explained why you decided upon certain courses of action. I'm not against you becoming a moderator, from what I've found personally what's put in an application and what actually ends up happening in-game changes fairly quickly. I'm sure you can deal with forum activity but you'd have to keep it up for the duration of being staff. Not that difficult actually.
Later Edit: Oh hell, you may have broken a moderator application rule.
Your application is over all pretty okay. I'd say you don't act appropriately in certain situations such as #1 and #6, scenario 6 is practically entirely I.C. nowadays which means you'd never get to the point of a P.M. or a warning and in scenario 1, remember, you should keep interference with the round to a minimum. Freezing them if it was a misfire is a bit much, freezing them if it was a straight up shooting isn't however.
For 14. I'd recommend putting out a longer ban than a 3-hour as they came onto the server, shot several people and then logged-off. Even in the case of a confused new player who shot up a bunch of players before being confused and logging out we would likely still ban them for atleast a day if that's the judgement you've decided on with the information available, and very likely 3 days. Quite often a 7-day is applied, it depends on the severity and what exactly they've done.
Whilst being more lenient to see if you can have a player stand-down by talking to them rather than going hard-ass mode is practical and really does work in numerous situations remember it won't work in all. I'd say a majority of scenarios people need a bit of a verbal ass-kicking to get them in gear after a warning. #11 is fair, if they've done it twice before then escalating it due to repeated offences is a good idea, people who repeat offences a lot tend not to learn from their bans very well and require a proper speaking to regarding what'll happen if they continue the way they're going.
I'm not much of one to poke holes in every question there is as you'd certainly learn in a trial period with access to ask other moderators and admins on for advice. I personally find your attitude a good choice for moderator, if you're accepted as a trial moderator you'll find out quickly enough how it goes down in practice as some people are malicious, vicious to other players and staff and others just need a warning to go along their way. Forum activity isn't much of a problem, two posts a day and staying up-to-date would probably be sufficient. Clearing every forum with mark as read and starting anew can be handy.
Good luck. If you have any questions or concerns over a scenario feel free to throw them around here. If you go over what you've said a second time and come back with any clarified answers and questions of your own it's perfectly fine, practically encouraged to do so.
Edit: To clarify, you've put effort into the application and have also explained why you decided upon certain courses of action. I'm not against you becoming a moderator, from what I've found personally what's put in an application and what actually ends up happening in-game changes fairly quickly. I'm sure you can deal with forum activity but you'd have to keep it up for the duration of being staff. Not that difficult actually.
Later Edit: Oh hell, you may have broken a moderator application rule.
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- Doktor710
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Good application, details and proper reaction. I think you should be a moderator.
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- Symbiosis
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Just in my experiences and opinions.
15 - If this is a FIRST time experience they'd get a stern warning and a note added. This is the equivalency of suicide. Warn them that further instances will result in a job ban. If they've done it before? Xeno Job ban.
19 - You can murder for escape pods. I've done it myself on one occasion. The RP around Pods can be frantic. Someone running wounded to the last pod and shooting someone ahead of them down is fine, IMHO. It creates a sense of panic that would be pretty common in a situation where the escape pods had to be used.
Other than that, pretty decent. Haven't met you much in game, but that doesn't mean anything. Give the fella a trial IMHO.
15 - If this is a FIRST time experience they'd get a stern warning and a note added. This is the equivalency of suicide. Warn them that further instances will result in a job ban. If they've done it before? Xeno Job ban.
19 - You can murder for escape pods. I've done it myself on one occasion. The RP around Pods can be frantic. Someone running wounded to the last pod and shooting someone ahead of them down is fine, IMHO. It creates a sense of panic that would be pretty common in a situation where the escape pods had to be used.
Other than that, pretty decent. Haven't met you much in game, but that doesn't mean anything. Give the fella a trial IMHO.
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
My review of the answers on the app:
As mentioned before, work on getting your forum activity up. It's not necessarily a requirement to have it before applying, but it helps a lot and you will want to improve it greatly from the time you make the app to the point where you (hopefully) would be accepted and beyond.
Past that, most of your answers were very good for someone with no staff experience here. You probably could cut down on the sleeping because sleeping players interrupts flow of RP for those around them, and usually results in players incorrectly trying to cryo them or take them to medbay. More often than not, nothing they do can't be easily un-done and it only takes a moment to sleep.
+1 from me, I think you could be a good Moderator.
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Past that, most of your answers were very good for someone with no staff experience here. You probably could cut down on the sleeping because sleeping players interrupts flow of RP for those around them, and usually results in players incorrectly trying to cryo them or take them to medbay. More often than not, nothing they do can't be easily un-done and it only takes a moment to sleep.
+1 from me, I think you could be a good Moderator.
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- driecg36
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Solid amount of effort in the app, but let me go over some minor things:
1) This could always be a misfire, which would be an IC issue. In that case, you should just let the MPs charge him, and leave it as an IC issue.
2) Even if the dropship caused it, you should still fix breach, as those breaches are unintentional.
3) Good response, especially considering the fact that you took it into account that he may not know how to PM back.
4) I think you misinterpreted this question. It's more so referring to the "I want to speak to your manager!" kinda dealio, rather than a genuine need for an admin+. If they're being rude, you should typically mute them (after you warn them), or just ban them for a hefty amount of time if they're being particularly egregious.
5) Decent answer, really no need to freeze. Also 3 hour ban is the standard, we don't do 2 hours. Additionally, check their notes to see if they've been warned about it before. And you can always fetch an admin+ to change it this round, though they will still need to change it in the char panel.
6) Completely an IC issue, no need to ban/ping the MT unless he's shooting people with the rifle. You can however subtle message an MP, though you shouldn't PM him. Also standard ban interval: 3 hours - 24 hours - 3 days - 1 week - perma.
7) Good, but ban intervals.
8) You can also use queen mother announcements for this.
9) Good.
10) Leave it as an IC issue unless they're doing nothing but that, in which case, PM them.
11) You'd want to PM the shooter and explain what he did wrong, in this case "improper escalation" too.
12) yep.
13) Decent answer, not a problem we get often.
14) 3 hours is way too light. A 3 day ban would be appropriate, even on first offense, for something like this.
15) As people have said a xeno ban may be in question here.
16) PM them before you do the immediate ban, just so they know. Otherwise good.
17) Coolio.
18) Decent answer.
19) Yepperoo.
20) Decent answer. If they ignore you, you may want to contact their senior. But none of ever make any mistakes, so it doesn't matter : ^ )
21) It's alright if they're just shitposting, but if they're being particularly harsh or actually trying to insult you, a PM and a ban are in question.
Otherwise, pretty good, overall you have the right mindset. Considering nero recommended you, and nero is pretty cool, I'm gonna give this a +1
1) This could always be a misfire, which would be an IC issue. In that case, you should just let the MPs charge him, and leave it as an IC issue.
2) Even if the dropship caused it, you should still fix breach, as those breaches are unintentional.
3) Good response, especially considering the fact that you took it into account that he may not know how to PM back.
4) I think you misinterpreted this question. It's more so referring to the "I want to speak to your manager!" kinda dealio, rather than a genuine need for an admin+. If they're being rude, you should typically mute them (after you warn them), or just ban them for a hefty amount of time if they're being particularly egregious.
5) Decent answer, really no need to freeze. Also 3 hour ban is the standard, we don't do 2 hours. Additionally, check their notes to see if they've been warned about it before. And you can always fetch an admin+ to change it this round, though they will still need to change it in the char panel.
6) Completely an IC issue, no need to ban/ping the MT unless he's shooting people with the rifle. You can however subtle message an MP, though you shouldn't PM him. Also standard ban interval: 3 hours - 24 hours - 3 days - 1 week - perma.
7) Good, but ban intervals.
8) You can also use queen mother announcements for this.
9) Good.
10) Leave it as an IC issue unless they're doing nothing but that, in which case, PM them.
11) You'd want to PM the shooter and explain what he did wrong, in this case "improper escalation" too.
12) yep.
13) Decent answer, not a problem we get often.
14) 3 hours is way too light. A 3 day ban would be appropriate, even on first offense, for something like this.
15) As people have said a xeno ban may be in question here.
16) PM them before you do the immediate ban, just so they know. Otherwise good.
17) Coolio.
18) Decent answer.
19) Yepperoo.
20) Decent answer. If they ignore you, you may want to contact their senior. But none of ever make any mistakes, so it doesn't matter : ^ )
21) It's alright if they're just shitposting, but if they're being particularly harsh or actually trying to insult you, a PM and a ban are in question.
Otherwise, pretty good, overall you have the right mindset. Considering nero recommended you, and nero is pretty cool, I'm gonna give this a +1
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Requirements:
1. You must be 16 years old or older
2. Your forum account must be at least 2 weeks old
3. Slack is a requirement for team communication.
4. You must not already be a staff member on another SS13 server
5. You must know and understand all of our rules with very high accuracy
The application isn't bad, but you clearly didn't read the rules for making a Mod application, and by the very nature of that, I can't support you as someone who should be a mod at the moment. I suggest you make sure to read them over and submit this again in thirty days. That said, it's not my call to enforce these so it's still possible Feweh could let it pass, but personally, I wouldn't.
1. You must be 16 years old or older
2. Your forum account must be at least 2 weeks old
3. Slack is a requirement for team communication.
4. You must not already be a staff member on another SS13 server
5. You must know and understand all of our rules with very high accuracy
The application isn't bad, but you clearly didn't read the rules for making a Mod application, and by the very nature of that, I can't support you as someone who should be a mod at the moment. I suggest you make sure to read them over and submit this again in thirty days. That said, it's not my call to enforce these so it's still possible Feweh could let it pass, but personally, I wouldn't.
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- driecg36
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
I hadn't even noticed this, but I'm still gonna stick with my +1. Activity is more important after you become a mod, rather than before. However, also not my call.Emeraldblood wrote:Requirements:
1. You must be 16 years old or older
2. Your forum account must be at least 2 weeks old
3. Slack is a requirement for team communication.
4. You must not already be a staff member on another SS13 server
5. You must know and understand all of our rules with very high accuracy
The application isn't bad, but you clearly didn't read the rules for making a Mod application, and by the very nature of that, I can't support you as someone who should be a mod at the moment. I suggest you make sure to read them over and submit this again in thirty days. That said, it's not my call to enforce these so it's still possible Feweh could let it pass, but personally, I wouldn't.
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- Tidomann
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
My take on the questions that were not already pointed out (and it seems like ban time escalation has been pointed out)
1. "I'd freeze him and PM him to see what the situation was, and if it's what I suspected, I'll unfreeze him and tell him to watch his fire." If you determined it was an accidental discharge and the MPs have him in custody I would let it play out as an IC issue.
2. Other than the dropship, what other incident is generally regarded as a legitimate breach?
6. Good, and as NGGJamie said- not worthy of OOC interferance unless they are running to the frontlines fighting.
7. Another good thing to add- is to SM the patient and direct them to a doctor, so no complications compound.
10. Others pointed out to leave it as an IC issue unless they have prior notes. Helps to keep an eye on them if we have multiple mods on.
11. Good answer. Double check before healing if proper escalation has occured. The question would most likely mention other escalation issues, but it's always worth investigating a bit before ahealing. As Drieg36 mentioned, make sure to PM the killer to let them know their mistake.
14. Others have mentioned- more of a heavy stance since multiple people were affected.
21. I get that most of us have a thick skin- at the same time depending on the context players shouldn't be disrespecting staff. If they are shooting the shit fine, if they are raging about rule enforcement it's another issue.
Overall decent app- ban times vary- but should be ok once you get to know the escalating times. I'm hesitant to give my support just because the forum account is so fresh, and you currently havn't posted elsewhere in the forums since the start of this application.
1. "I'd freeze him and PM him to see what the situation was, and if it's what I suspected, I'll unfreeze him and tell him to watch his fire." If you determined it was an accidental discharge and the MPs have him in custody I would let it play out as an IC issue.
2. Other than the dropship, what other incident is generally regarded as a legitimate breach?
6. Good, and as NGGJamie said- not worthy of OOC interferance unless they are running to the frontlines fighting.
7. Another good thing to add- is to SM the patient and direct them to a doctor, so no complications compound.
10. Others pointed out to leave it as an IC issue unless they have prior notes. Helps to keep an eye on them if we have multiple mods on.
11. Good answer. Double check before healing if proper escalation has occured. The question would most likely mention other escalation issues, but it's always worth investigating a bit before ahealing. As Drieg36 mentioned, make sure to PM the killer to let them know their mistake.
14. Others have mentioned- more of a heavy stance since multiple people were affected.
21. I get that most of us have a thick skin- at the same time depending on the context players shouldn't be disrespecting staff. If they are shooting the shit fine, if they are raging about rule enforcement it's another issue.
Overall decent app- ban times vary- but should be ok once you get to know the escalating times. I'm hesitant to give my support just because the forum account is so fresh, and you currently havn't posted elsewhere in the forums since the start of this application.
- PhoenixTheAmazing
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Yeah, I know. Really bad of me not to have known of the forums myself. It's been one of those things I haven't heard of until a few days ago, and Nero had either noted or told around that I would be good for Moderating, so I decided to come on and test my luck. If I end up not being able to make the thing, I'll try my best to go post everywhere to reach seniority or what-have-you, but I appreciate all the support and criticism given so far! Thanks a ton, guys, keep it up if you want!
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Also it helps a lot to react to posts about your answers and give your thoughts or self corrections on questions you didn't answer perfectly or want to change in said reply. when I get home later or possibly in the morning, I'll give you some extra stuff to answer if you're inclined to do so.Phoenix2 wrote:Yeah, I know. Really bad of me not to have known of the forums myself. It's been one of those things I haven't heard of until a few days ago, and Nero had either noted or told around that I would be good for Moderating, so I decided to come on and test my luck. If I end up not being able to make the thing, I'll try my best to go post everywhere to reach seniority or what-have-you, but I appreciate all the support and criticism given so far! Thanks a ton, guys, keep it up if you want!
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
Mhm! I'm okay with that, but I'll explain my ban leniency with a simple sweep of the hand so people can understand why I'm practically a sissy with these banhammerings.NGGJamie wrote:Also it helps a lot to react to posts about your answers and give your thoughts or self corrections on questions you didn't answer perfectly or want to change in said reply. when I get home later or possibly in the morning, I'll give you some extra stuff to answer if you're inclined to do so.
I've personally felt that kicking someone out for a long period of time (a week, a month) discourages them to an extent where they don't want to even attempt to RP anymore, so I feel lenient ban times with the pat on the back that they're welcome back any time if they can just properly adjust to our dynamic and abide by the rules (while also giving them said rules to study over) really encourages them to get into that sort of hype, so they'll play right and the problems can be avoided.
However, I will acknowledge that not all people are like that, and are here for minging. It's hard to determine what sort of behavior is what unless I get a record of their previous instances (thanks, Notes!) but as far as it goes, I'm just wanting to come off as a more reasonable and down to talk about the situation sort of mod rather than just going 'To hell with you!' and whisking my banhammer like it's out of fashion.
But if such a situation arises, and that's the only case that I can take, I'll certainly step up to the plate and give them a proper punishment (which depends, but we all know how it goes with those repeat offenders!) but as far as it goes, I just want to be lenient with first-timers and others of their ilk.
I'm also horrible at keeping track of these questions, if you guys want to bring up a really important one again for me to justify on my app, feel free to do so!
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Re: Phoenix - Moderator Application
This is accepted. I apologize for the delay, you'll receive a PM shortly.