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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by McRipfist » 26 Nov 2016, 17:32

I've never seen you in game or heard of you but other than that your answers are alright. Neutral for me.
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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by TheSpoonyCroy » 26 Nov 2016, 20:21

1. I think it might be the way you worded it but I do feel sleeping a player just to explain their "wrongdoings" is a tad heavy handed if their only crime is shooting windows out, if it was other players (in grief fashion, no real reason to shoot their comrades) than sure it would be perfectly fine to sleep a griefer to talk it out

6. This one really isn't against you since not many people besides staff know it but if there is any kind of rulebreak especially things that could be repeatable, you just give them a note when you confirm it has occurred and talked to them about it since these things are easy to lose track of when its actual in play since so many things can happen in a round, you sort of forget about the guy who broke the name rule (also remember to include the name in the note, in case it pops up again)

7. This is actually incorrect with the new ruleset, doctors technically can wield rifles when the ship is being boarded BUT they do more good by preforming their job than by murdering a few xenos (or in the more likely case, getting hugged instantly and being knocked out of the round leaving medical with one less doctor because something thought lets go shooting some aliens...)

10. EoRG we technically apply the 3 hour ban without any warning especially since so many cases of it can pop up at once and it would be a waste of time to explain it to them in game. Chances are they will enter Mchat and ask what is "EoRG?!?!" and you can talk about it there but if they pm you, tell them to bring it up in a official channel or tell them to file complaint here: http://cm-ss13.com/viewforum.php?f=118 and end correspondence there (also suggest taking a photo of those pms (with what you said as well) and bring it up if there is a staff complaint filed)

With all that said, I'm going to say -1 (this was edited reasons below)
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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by LordeKilly » 26 Nov 2016, 21:48

The application in all was on the moderate to weak side. The lack of forum presence and in-game presence, I really can't say much about you, and the answers were very lackluster, and some downright weird. Like, regarding the first question, it is never ok to use bullets to, "enforce marine law." That's not ok. The EROG answer is ok, except you don't contact them period, you drop the ban and continue on. Also the answers really do lack actual punishments, just vague answers such as, "apply the proper ban" but you never really went into explaining what that would be.

Overall, it's a pretty weak application, not much is great about it. -1.
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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by Rain7x » 26 Nov 2016, 23:02

TheSpoonyCroy wrote:1. I think it might be the way you worded it but I do feel sleeping a player just to explain their "wrongdoings" is a tad heavy handed if their only crime is shooting windows out, if it was other players (in grief fashion, no real reason to shoot their comrades) than sure it would be perfectly fine to sleep a griefer to talk it out

6. This one really isn't against you since not many people besides staff know it but if there is any kind of rulebreak especially things that could be repeatable, you just give them a note when you confirm it has occurred and talked to them about it since these things are easy to lose track of when its actual in play since so many things can happen in a round, you sort of forget about the guy who broke the name rule (also remember to include the name in the note, in case it pops up again)

7. This is actually incorrect with the new ruleset, doctors technically can wield rifles when the ship is being boarded BUT they do more good by preforming their job than by murdering a few xenos (or in the more likely case, getting hugged instantly and being knocked out of the round leaving medical with one less doctor because something thought lets go shooting some aliens...)

10. EoRG we technically apply the 3 hour ban without any warning especially since so many cases of it can pop up at once and it would be a waste of time to explain it to them in game. Chances are they will enter Mchat and ask what is "EoRG?!?!" and you can talk about it there but if they pm you, tell them to bring it up in a official channel or tell them to file complaint here: http://cm-ss13.com/viewforum.php?f=118 and end correspondence there (also suggest taking a photo of those pms (with what you said as well) and bring it up if there is a staff complaint filed)

With all that said, I'm going to say Neutral
I agree with what Spoony said. You have no notes, but I've played here for a while and I can't seem to recall your character or your Ckey. Your answers were kind of odd, generally when banning people for EORG we don't talk to them. Gonna go with a -1 on this one.
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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by slc97 » 26 Nov 2016, 23:36

I have no knowledge of you as a play or as a community member. I can't see other staff members knowing you as a player or community member, that would normally leave me neutral, but as has been said previously, the application itself is rather lackluster. I'm going to have go -1 for now. If I begin to see you more on the forums and server my opinion may be subject to change.

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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by Snypehunter007 » 26 Nov 2016, 23:42

I do have problems with your number 10 and the lack of a details but I have seen you before. Also after having talked to you in Discord, I do believe you have what takes to be a Moderator. I believe that you would be able to learn the situations as some of them can't be answered REALLY well until you become a Moderator.

+1 from me.
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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by Boltersam » 27 Nov 2016, 04:55

Your post count leads me to believe that you have no interest in the community at large and created your account solely to become staff.

Several of your answers don't show me any actual knowledge on how the staff team operates on CM.
Namely,
Q1.

Q2.

Q10.

Q12.

I have never seen you on the server, and you're obviously not concerned with the forums outside of applying.

-1.

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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by Nightwolf901 » 27 Nov 2016, 06:57

Boltersam wrote:Your post count leads me to believe that you have no interest in the community at large and created your account solely to become staff.

Several of your answers don't show me any actual knowledge on how the staff team operates on CM.
Namely,
Q1.

Q2.

Q10.

Q12.

I have never seen you on the server, and you're obviously not concerned with the forums outside of applying.

-1.
First off.
They all look like perfect responses to the situation AND hes applying for mod. Hes not the fucking mod yet. He can learn as he explores his role if he gets it.
If you were to read on his additonal notes HE RECENTLY CAME BACK FROM STOMACH SURGERY.

But i very well see this is a good app. And i've seen this man before. Hes a good person. +1 on me
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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by TheSpoonyCroy » 27 Nov 2016, 10:04

LordeKilly wrote:-snip- Also the answers really do lack actual punishments, just vague answers such as, "apply the proper ban" but you never really went into explaining what that would be. -snip-
I personally disagree with this since these questions are extremely vague, and a vague answer should be provided since like they say "the devil is in the details" however I did miss a few things on my first read through which I should of noticed like the warning shot one (which is a horrid idea since there is no real mechanic for warning shots and it can easily be misinterpreted as this 'asshat' has horrid aim and I must kill him before kills me...) and the fact marines shouldn't be enforcing marine law on each other unless in dire cases.


Also I will decided to check the logs on this player and he has only been playing since the February of this year but was only around for that month and came back on the 20th of this month*, so I will probably change my decision to a -1 to allow for more time to be accumulated (which I will change in my original response) to get the general vibe of the community

*had to edit my response since I forgot to check the account's activity period, which is a tad more of a hassle than you might actually think...
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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by Boltersam » 27 Nov 2016, 11:37

Nightwolf901 wrote:First off.
They all look like perfect responses to the situation AND hes applying for mod. Hes not the fucking mod yet. He can learn as he explores his role if he gets it.
If he does get it, yes, he, through trial and error, and being taught, will learn much more than he currently appears to know about how these situations.

However, if he plays on the server often, he'd see how the situations are handled by staff. I find the answers to the questions insufficient.

He has zero forum activity outside of applications, and I see no involvement with the community as a whole.

I have seen him exactly zero times ingame, so I can't be assured of his activity if he becomes staff.

For these reasons and several more, I don't approve of his application.
Nightwolf901 wrote:But i very well see this is a good app. And i've seen this man before. Hes a good person. +1 on me
Okay. This is your choice and opinion, and you are fully within your rights to approve of his application despite major flaws
Nightwolf901 wrote:If you were to read on his additonal notes HE RECENTLY CAME BACK FROM STOMACH SURGERY
I did read this. How does stomach surgery affect his application in any meaningful way that should change my analysis of it?
I had a surgery on my back to remove a chunk of flesh, and I've only gotten out the stitches recently. If I were to make an application for admin, should I have a higher chance of being accepted because of it, despite it having no effect on anything concerning being a member of staff or the application itself?

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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by slc97 » 27 Nov 2016, 12:53

I am personally not worried about your lack of community involvement. I had very low community involvement when my application was posted and only slightly more activism when it was accepted. I personally see a lack of critical think skills. Foremost, the staff protocols are available under the announcements section of the forums.

Your vague answers also irk me to a degree. Yes, the situations given are relatively broad, but they allow for incite into process. You should be able to determine ban lengths on your own or even if a ban is required. If someone has a name issue and has no notes for it, just tell them to change it. If someone has a name issue and has a note or two, you can continue to warn or start giving out bans. This kind of information tells us how you will act as a moderator and what we will need to adjust with you for the period of your trial. Giving them "Appropriate notes and punishment" gives us no insight into how you will act as a trial moderator and makes me believe that you lack the necessary initiative skills to determine these on your own.

You really see like a nice guy, but I don't see you as moderation material based off of this applications is the issue withstanding.

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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by freemysoul » 27 Nov 2016, 13:56

While you haven't alot of forum posts, This can be taken into effect by the fact you've away as you've stated in your application. I also see from the logs that you've just recently returned and that you play during the deadtimes. While I have seen you before I haven't seen you recently.

Personally, I don't see many issues with your application and the "vague" answers can be easily explained by the fact that Staff protocol is about how to act, rather then punishments, Meaning that this will be ironed out with you IF you do get accepted.

My biggest concern is with number 1 " such as shooting a warning shot as an enforcement to Marine Law" This shouldn't be allowed as they shouldn't be acting as law enforcement, that is the MPs' job not the marines/command.

Given this I believe that while you would need to learn how to act as a Moderator and what the times and punishments are, Your process is acceptable, Many moderators have started out with FAR less in their applications, and many others have been denied for simpler thing, Personally I'd suggest that you play on the server abit more.

Leaning towards +1

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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by monkeysfist101 » 28 Nov 2016, 09:47

I'm a dev so most of my moderation skills start/end with threats to remove beloved features and as such I'll abstain from voting on mod skill. I will chip in what I can, though. I've seen him off and on this weekend on discord and got a chance to talk to him for a few hours. From what I've seen, see seems like a nice guy and I can vouch for his age.
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Re: GameMaster85 - Moderator Application

Post by Feweh » 28 Nov 2016, 23:01

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