Pred killing a larva

[Sad_Corn]

Your Byond Key:
SadCorn

Your Character Name: Luiz "Mises" Buarque

Accused Byond Key(if known):Boltersam

Character Name: Dhi'rauta Bhu'ja

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 13:00-15:50/ 12/08/16

What rule(s) were broken:Honor code= 1.Hunting Worthy Game: When hunting, the hunter must be sure that his prey is considered game. To be considered "prey" and be lawful to kill the prey much fit the following requirements:
Can defend itself and/or is able to kill the hunter

Description of the incident:A pred was dueling against a infected marine, a normal honor duel. But the marine bursted out while they were fighting, kinda sad because it was a funny duel. After the larva was born, the pred slashed it with a scimitar (The pred Ka'Torag-na Vor'mekta Watched everything). Aliens were already atacking Sulaco, so i think he killed it by missclicking or to don't delay the round.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
http://imgur.com/a/CaaJd

How you would punish the accused: I think it was a mistake, and boltersam is a good guy, i wouldn't remove his whitelist. Just give him a note or something, because i like him, and that larva could delay the entire round.

Obs: BOlter, don't get me wrong, i report everything wrong that i see, nothing against you.

[Biolock]

I'll give Bolter a chance to reply to this before I say anything.

[Boltersam]

It was at the end of the round, nobody else but Predators were on the planet, I was duelling an infected Marine who I thought had died in a suicide attack when I got him and his comrade to distract the Xenos while I got Ka's body to detonate. It was in the heat of the moment, and I didn't think of the consequences until after what I'd done.

Anyways, it's no excuse for a direct breach to the Code Of Honour. (And it wasn't a mistake. I'd stopped when I saw he fell, then when I saw the larva, I hit it twice with the scimitars.)

I am fully deserving of any punishment given for this.

[Sad_Corn]

For me you just miss clicked or something... I Didn't expect that was actually intentional

[Shyguychizzy]

Hmmmm, though this was a breach of the hunting code......Hunting Worthy Game: When hunting, the hunter must be sure that his prey is considered game. To be considered "prey" and be lawful to kill the prey much fit the following requirements:
Can defend itself and/or is able to kill the hunter (SSD is a big no-no, same with marines who are in crit and bleeding out with some exceptions listed below)
Not linked to other lives (e.g. if you come across a marine dragging another marine alone, neither are prey, unless they were previously engaged as prey).
Is not Struck with diseases or injuries preventing a honorable hunt (someone who has lost limbs and not had them replaced yet). (http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.p ... 988#p23988)
From what I can see, as I was a predator as well while ghosted at the time, though this was a breach of the code of honor, I see to it it was a minor error, as well, to shed some light. I have taken quite a few screenshots of the conversations that took place, from my point as a ghost or ghosting in the matter, this occurrence was a duel then a larva so happen pop up right as he was about to win the duel. Unsure how would this be dealt with but here are the screen shots I have taken.
Unsure if these are of help anyhow, but the convo between the to predators
1.https://gyazo.com/2cff14680d09c4429a547bc5f4cddcbb
2.https://gyazo.com/0fd12f9317ff78a644f53ac45bf65121
3.https://gyazo.com/a3144da62bc27fa3ee24fd520f6ec599
4.https://gyazo.com/7bc2675d6aca91d57dd8f42d6224d98d
Requesting other staff and perhaps higher staff to have a say in this matter, unsure on this matter as it was it was a duel that so happen to burst.

[Feweh]

Seems like it was RPed out and there was a background story with legit reason to do so.
This is after all what we promote from Predators.

[forwardslashN]

It's not honorable to kill a defenseless larva, born moments ago, because a human wanted to die fighting. I think Bolter understands why this was a mistake, but it didn't have a great impact on the round, and everything else prior to that was done well. A warning, I think, is suitable.

[LarryOrtega]

I will say my opinión as witness if the staff team dont mind:

First, an infected marine start to talk with boltresam, boltresam tell him that he will live, he´s infected. Marine want to die with honor, so pred and marine start fight, some slash go in and out, then marine drop in the floor (There i suppose that boltresam aproach to finish him), then a larvae comes out (An SSD Larvae, like the other 20 in the game) and boltresam slashed it.

Everything happen too fast, the marine drop on the ground an a larvae come out of his body. Let´s be honest, the first thing that you do when you saw a larvae, it´s kill it. Mistakes are made by anyone, and boltresam it´s a great pred.

[Feweh]

This incident reminded me of something from the movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnyGbcdcOnc - Go to 1:34 (hour and 34 minutes).

I'd like to say that this incident falls into the similar category. Bolter was caught up in the moment, there was not clear attempt to actively hunt down and target a larva.

[Toroic]

I agree with a warning.

It's not worthy game, but had he killed the marine before they burst the larva would be equally dead, and bolter took full responsibility for their actions.

[Sad_Corn]

Same for me as toroic, it's not fair to remove his whitelist for killing one random larva, even if bolter already said that intentional. I'm fine with a a small warning for him, since he is a good member staff and a good pred in general, just commited one small mistake

[Gentlemanly_headcrab]

Hi, Ka'torag here (the pred that watched it) I don't think he needs his whitelist removed due to the simplistic fact that while dueling the guy popped and the larva was killed. There was a fair amount of RP in what I saw. The marine popped mid-fight and the SSD larva came out which bolter struck down as the fight ended.

Was it something I'd remove whitelist for? No not at all.

A little warning? Sure, it didn't impact the round and was all in the moment, bolter admitted he did it and owned up to his mistake, he's a good pred and something like this shouldn't screw him off the whitelist. Just my two cents.

[Sad_Corn]

Hi, Ka'torag here (the pred that watched it) I don't think he needs his whitelist removed due to the simplistic fact that while dueling the guy popped and the larva was killed. There was a fair amount of RP in what I saw. The marine popped mid-fight and the SSD larva came out which bolter struck down as the fight ended.

Was it something I'd remove whitelist for? No not at all.

A little warning? Sure, it didn't impact the round and was all in the moment, bolter admitted he did it and owned up to his mistake, he's a good pred and something like this shouldn't screw him off the whitelist. Just my two cents.

Yep, that's what i suggested, just a small warning

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwpo_j4c1Hk

[Feweh]

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