Your Character Name: Chad Stephenson
Their Byond key: Feweh
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central Us Time for best results): Jan 23, 2017, 17:35
Which Admin Protocols (viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5647) were broken: In my view one and three
Description of the incident: I have only played marine on Whiskey Outpost oh I dunno... once? I saw a flanking position and got some metal to secure it, wanna say 3-4 stacks, I made some walls, saw two sentry crates lying around so I grabbed them and put up too sentries to block a xeno flank, threw down some other false walls, got boinked and told to knock it off etc, explained I was just covering a flank, was told ok just dont be selfish. Got another boink and got warned that I would be bombed if I was the last marine alive in here, said ok and asked an irrelevant question. I had mostly finished it and was heading out to see if I could get some other marines to help me secure the flanking position, saw weeds and heard a sentinel or spitter, I didnt know the xenos were so close to the outpost, ran back and moved a turret closer to the entrance to keep me covered while I checked the premises, got boinked, told I was warned twice and banned.
now first of all being selfish, while it is shit isnt really against the rules per say, its more an IC issue, Im not trying to be a rule shitler I get you cant make the rules 10 pages long and get implied rules but still, the general vibe of the rules that I get is meta and other things like that fall under the category of bannable offenses, but distasteful IC stuff like gross marine bravado, a snake lesion and such is more an IC issue.
I mean here is an example of Feweh himself denying a report because someone was way more of a shit/abuser than I was, stating its an IC issue http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.p ... ue#p116004
Now I wasn't intending to be selfish or cause shit, I set up defenses and some turrets, and when boinked I explained my side and he seemed chill with it. Second time I got boinked he said he would blow me up if I was the last one, I was fine with that. Then he bans me, claiming i was warned twice. He said dont be selfish, and I will blow you up, if he had said move the turrets somewhere more helpful, would have done it, if he had said ok, bit too heavy on the defenses dont be selfish, stop building, would have done it, or if he just told me to get out there and fight.
I dont know exactly how much metal marines have on whiskey, but when I play aliens I see a crap ton a metal walls around the rasputin lading, I mean under this approach anyone who does that or builds superfluous defenses can be banned, so why is it okay when they do it on LV-624? the rasputin is a flanking position, why is it okay to secure that with metal sheets but not in my case? why did I get a ban? Were my defenses maybe a bit excessive? sure. But is walling off the entire rasputin a bit much? yeah a little. So if any marine sets up crapy wasteful defenses they can be 7 day banned for it? I mean marine FF kills way more than this "wasteful" flank did, are they all going to get 7 day bans?
look, I dont want to start crap with the manager of the server, but this ban wasn't fair, even you have to admit that. I mean I know the staff here likes to say there is no special treatment but I have seen a lot of regulars put up much worse defenses and its just gets laughed over in D chat, this wasn't fair. If you had said after my initial reply, no it is a waste, knock it off, that would have been a warning and I would have stopped, if I didn't then yes this ban would be somewhat more legitimate as I ignored a staff members orders. How did it go from bomb me to ban? a threat of being bombed isnt a ban warning. That coupled with the fact this is more an IC issue and you have denied player reports for no less than what I did... why?
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How you would punish the accused: I know the server manager isn't really going to be punished, and I don't really think he deserves anything major either, being a admin on a free to play game where everyone is trying to start shit and get around the rules is tiring and he's doing what he does for free providing a service to everyone on the server, I get it. It's hard to tell whether a player is a masquerading griefer or someone who just messed up, but you still need to be fair, give appropriate ban times, and not jump between two opinions about selfishness with key materials like attachments and metal being an IC issue and an OOC issue.
I dont really care about the ban time, (why im not appealing it), but I mean this ban has pretty much brought my chances of getting any kind of app I was planning on down to zero since its a recent ban and I will be labeled as a griefer, that and this will probably tick off the one guy who approves like half of them, that being said I tried to remain mostly non-salted when writing this but forgive me if anything slipped through.