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Sum BOs want to fight

Post by XenonDragneel » 02 Mar 2017, 19:03

Your Byond Key: TeenGowen

Your Character Name: Xo Yung Kyunseok

Accused Byond Key(if known): Unknown

Character Name: Kardan Stronos

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 5:00 PM

What rule(s) were broken: I believe no rules was broken but wasn't doing his role.

Description of the incident: Bridge Officer Kardan Stronos just came to the bridge and already asking to head down there to the Ice Colony to fight with the marine with "motivation" I told him to overwatch a squad and talk 24/7. He been asking and asking I kept tell him no so he disobey and went down there(This is IC issue I know)
He just pop out of cryo and already been asking to fight with the marines? Wtf? Also the marines was winning that round, I was Executive Officer.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): Evidences have been lost. I tried to scroll up the chat.

How you would punish the accused: One week jobban from BO
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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by NescauComToddy » 02 Mar 2017, 20:27

Hey there. I am a WITNESS, so I am going to make things easier, here.

Firstly, we can't forget YOU also went down without a CDR In the Sully, that's wrong too.

The problem here Is, LT Kardan knew he was wrong by Explicitly asking to go down to the colony PLANET-SIDE, meaning that he Is guilty of not following one of the 5."Job-Specific Rules " according to the "ALL NON-MARINE SULACO CREW" section, that includes the bridge officers.

"You may leave the Sulaco to report to the FOB (Forward Operating Base) so long as you have clearance from your department head or a superior officer unless explicitly stated otherwise below."

In the beginning, young LT Kardan was Inside the FoB, soon after, he went to the front-lines, playing as Ground-commander for the marines In the end of the round. Then, XO Xo came to deal with the situation, while there wasn't a CDR on the ship, breaking another rule for a small-period of time, different from Kardan, that literally knew he was wrong, while Xo had a misinterpretation of one of the command staff rules due to being the single "High-rank" In the round.

Sorry If I did any mistakes up here, I am actually making this by a phone.
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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by ZDashe » 02 Mar 2017, 22:06

Regarding Kardan Stronos heading planetside as a BO:
XenonDragneel wrote:He been asking and asking I kept tell him no so he disobey and went down there(This is IC issue I know)
Marine-Specific Rules:
  • ALL NON-MARINE SULACO CREW (Doctors, Engineers, Cargo, MPs, Command, etc)
    • You may leave the Sulaco to report to the FOB (Forward Operating Base) so long as you have clearance from your department head or a superior officer unless explicitly stated otherwise below.
Relevant logs:

Kardan Stronos joins the round and immediately asks for permission to head planetside, but was denied by the XO:
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Kardan asks for permission again to go down, and XO denied his request again:
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Kardan asks for permission the third time:
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Kardan heads down without XO's permission:
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Regarding Xo Yung Kyunseok heading planetside as the XO:

Marine-Specific Rules:
  • Commander
    • Either the Commander or Executive Officer must be on the Sulaco AT ALL TIMES. If one goes to the surface, the other must remain on the ship.
Relevant logs:

Xo Yung Kyunseok (TeenGowen) Ahelps to clarify if he can go down. Staff were busy or unavailable to reply to his ahelp. He decides to head down anyway.
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Xo Yung Kyunseok was advised against heading planetside ICly, and was reminded of the rules:
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Clarification: Commanding Officer = CO. BOs are not COs just because they are 'commanding' from the bridge as an officer.

XO threatened to execute the BO for heading planetside (logs omitted for brevity sake) [The BO was later captured by aliens]

Xo Yung Kyunseok went down planetside and orders the BO to return, while marines advise the XO to head back up and leave the BO to the MPs:
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Xo Yung Kyunseok argues over LOOC about server rules despite many other players reminding him that he shouldn't be down:
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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by NescauComToddy » 02 Mar 2017, 22:57

This happened so quickly that even ockly, I couldn't exactly explain to the XO calmly like I am now due to me playing the game with the brief, end-round that was coming.

Also, I tried to give a "warning" to the BO that, asked to go down while he already was "down" via Radio. Sadly, without any staff online, there was no way I could stop him as a Private that just came back from deep coma due to a great amount of damage In my respiratory system(Lungs).

About the XO, all I have to say Is that ignorance Is not a excuse, and, If we check his ahelp, you just are being pure ignorant because you knew this wasn't In the rules and, Immaturely and without a PM as answer, you went down to apply a punishment to the BO, that Isn't your job either and, breaks another rule number 5 again as a extra. Also, the execution announcement wasn't properly made, thankfully, a ground-execution didn't occurred, saving you for another rule break, that would be even more heavy. I Didn't know you ahelped, that Is, bad(God dammit, Xo).

I Guess you 3 should wait and see, this will be my last reply here. Also, amazing job on getting the logs, ZDashe.
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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by slc97 » 03 Mar 2017, 07:26

Both players are at obvious fault here. It's my recommendation that both players receive full command bans given note history.

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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by XenonDragneel » 03 Mar 2017, 09:42

I head down as a XO to tell the BO to head back up here. Two players(or three told me to stay on the Sulaco so I head back on the rasputin). I head down as a XO because I have seen a lone XO head down with just three BOs on deck. To be honest I have quickly changed my mind to not execute the BO but to HARM him right after I touched the ground. I did ahelped but there was no staff online, just two mentors. I didn't went FAR away from the Rasputin, I was all time on the Rasputin, I was about to head out but I quickly went back in. The salt in me with the BO who just repeatly asking to head down but didn't manage to Overwatch a single squad got me really triggered because I have to overwatch two squad(Alpha and Bravo at the same time). All I went down is to talk with the BO to get back up here... he just should've told me that he needs to change is job to standard...

All I did was -1- Head down but didn't go far away from the rasputin -2- Execute the BO but the execution for him for heading down didn't break any -3- Get so salty

Both of the player did saved me I see no reason why to job ban me from command position. I didn't went down because "Oooh no staff I get to do what I want!" This is a reason why I ahelped, I didn't know there was no admin or mod. Also, I DID checked forum right before I went down. I didn't KNOW if ONE goes down was the BO... I thought it mean't the CO or XO. I think I should be given a warning note.
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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by slc97 » 03 Mar 2017, 10:04

You have a warning note from a week and half ago for breaking command rules. You cannot leave the Sulaco as XO if there is no CO. No discussion. Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse.

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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by XenonDragneel » 03 Mar 2017, 10:22

I am not letting that player get FULL TIME command jobban. Nor do I wanted to be jobbanned too. That player seem to be new and just needed a lesson. If I didn't make this "Report a Player" no one was going to get warned/banned. I am trying to be friendly here I just think he should be warned or be jobbanned for a short time period. All this was an accident and stuff.

If I didn't listen to the Pilot Officer of Pedro and head out anyways... I would've gone into major trouble... I STAYED on the Rasputin... I didn't leave the RASPUTIN.
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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by slc97 » 03 Mar 2017, 10:25

Both of you have command warnings. Zdashe has provided the investigation into the situation, and I have provided my recommendation. A head of staff will issue the final verdict soon. You both broke the rule.

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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by XenonDragneel » 03 Mar 2017, 10:32

Playerbase hasn't change...

Getting to many warning notes for the past months when I came back... to much drama, it would be nice to get something worst than warning or jobban so I can learn my lesson more...
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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by Feweh » 03 Mar 2017, 10:43

XenonDragneel wrote:Playerbase hasn't change...

Getting to many warning notes for the past months when I came back... to much drama, it would be nice to get something worst than warning or jobban so I can learn my lesson more...

Sometimes you gotta chill the fuck out.

The otherday I arrested you as an MP and you spent a solid hour calling me a faggot, gayboy, bitch etc until I spoke in LOOC and you realized who I was.


Point being, most of your notes and drama are caused because of you and you only.

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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by XenonDragneel » 03 Mar 2017, 11:09

I always think I was toxic to the community... which I am... I am always trying to be careful until something happened.

I lied on my PermaBan appeals... All staff gave me a +1 to let me come back. I just wish I could be a good and friendly player and be in a friendly community..
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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by Feweh » 03 Mar 2017, 11:14

XenonDragneel wrote:I always think I was toxic to the community... which I am... I am always trying to be careful until something happened.

I lied on my PermaBan appeals... All staff gave me a +1 to let me come back. I just wish I could be a good and friendly player and be in a friendly community..

So maybe we start with not calling people faggots, bitches and cocksuckers in LOOC?

That's a pretty fucking straightforward self way to improve near instantly no?

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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by XenonDragneel » 03 Mar 2017, 11:35

Feweh wrote:So maybe we start with not calling people faggots, bitches and cocksuckers in LOOC?

That's a pretty fucking straightforward self way to improve near instantly no?
It's not just that Feweh... it's more than that... I won't curse anymore rudeness but... it's just not that, I just want to play the game peacefully... I was about to blame other people but that won't solve anything. I can't just follow the rules correctly. I want to be a very quiet and friendly player. I always say this, it never happened
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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by XenonDragneel » 03 Mar 2017, 11:52

After this getting closes, I am going to try to keep out of trouble and improve my behavior in the future.
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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by Feweh » 03 Mar 2017, 11:54

XenonDragneel wrote:It's not just that Feweh... it's more than that... I won't curse anymore rudeness but... it's just not that, I just want to play the game peacefully... I was about to blame other people but that won't solve anything. I can't just follow the rules correctly. I want to be a very quiet and friendly player. I always say this, it never happened

Well if you cant follow the rules, I have no issue in easily solving that problem.

So your options are to improve and stop being shit. Or I will solve this problem myself.

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Re: Sum BOs want to fight

Post by Feweh » 10 Mar 2017, 13:29

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