Reuben Allen - improper escalation

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Reuben Allen - improper escalation

Post by TheDonkified » 31 May 2017, 02:32

Your Byond Key:
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Your Character Name:
In this situation, Apop put me in as the survivor Bill Surley

Accused Byond Key(if known):
n/a

Character Name:
Reuben Allen

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results):
12:00 -> 1:10 AM CST 5/31/2017

What rule(s) were broken:
Rule 7? Mainly improper escalation.

Description of the incident:
I was playing as survivor Bill Surley, and I barricaded myself inside sec in Nexus with the other survivor, Davis Poteat. Marines were trying to convince us to come out, and me and Davis stayed inside sec. Things get kinda out of hand when Davis whacks a marine trying to enter our "fortress," but that kinda sorts itself out. HOWEVER, I take enough of Reuben's insults, and attack him assuming that he wanted a fist fight. When I throw a punch, he straight up tries to kill me.

In the end, I stab him twice with the same bayonet that he tries to kill me with, and I end up succumbing to my injuries, however, Reuben shouldn't have tried killing me just because I threw a punch at him.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
edit: I'll put two asterisks (*) next to the things that I did but were not present in the log (where applicable)

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Bill Surley says, "Reuben"
Bill Surley says, "I will fuck you up"
Bill Surley starts climbing onto the reinforced table!
PFC Reuben Allen shouts, "Come out here and get some, you wet napkin!"
Bill Surley climbs onto the reinforced table!
Bill Surley punched Reuben Allen!
Reuben Allen fires the M37A2 pump shotgun (Wielded)!
Bill Surley says, "HELP"
Bill Surley tried to punch Reuben Allen!
Bill Surley attempted to disarm Reuben Allen!
Bill Surley has been cut in the chest with M11 combat bayonet by Reuben Allen!
The splint on your chest comes apart!
The grass has been hit by Reuben Allen with the M11 combat bayonet.
Reuben Allen has thrown the M11 combat bayonet.
**I pick up the M11 combat bayonet
Reuben Allen fires the M37A2 pump shotgun (Wielded)!
Bill Surley is hit by the shotgun slug in the chest!
Bill Surley screams!
Bill Surley says, "HELP"
Bill Surley says, "WHAT THE FUCK"
Reuben Allen attempted to disarm Bill Surley!
Reuben Allen has disarmed Bill Surley!
**I pick up the M11 combat bayonet again
Reuben Allen has been cut in the head with M11 combat bayonet by Bill Surley!
Reuben Allen attempted to disarm Bill Surley!
Bill Surley says, "HE SHOT ME"
Bill Surley has been attacked in the chest with DromedaryCo packet by Reuben Allen!
Bill Surley has been attacked in the chest with DromedaryCo packet by Reuben Allen!
Bill Surley says, "AND STABBED ME"
Reuben Allen has been slashed in the head with M11 combat bayonet by Bill Surley!
The wound on Reuben Allen's head widens with a nasty ripping noise.
Reuben Allen has been knocked unconscious!
**I drop the M11 combat bayonet
How you would punish the accused:
Teach him about what improper escalation is. The rest is up to the staff.
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Re: Reuben Allen - improper escalation

Post by Karmac » 31 May 2017, 02:44

The first two sentences in your logs that you spoke and the fact you started a fistfight with him is a good enough indication that I'd be willing to side with Reuben on this one.

EDIT: unless he tried to shoot you with that shotgun blast, in which case he'd be in tbe wrong.
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Re: Reuben Allen - improper escalation

Post by TheDonkified » 31 May 2017, 02:50

He tried to shoot me after I punched him. Then he tried stabbing me to death.
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Re: Reuben Allen - improper escalation

Post by Karmac » 31 May 2017, 02:55

Yeah its more the shotgun that concerns me, in my opinion this warrants punishment for this Reuben guy.
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Re: Reuben Allen - improper escalation

Post by TheDonkified » 31 May 2017, 02:56

Karmac wrote:Yeah its more the shotgun that concerns me, in my opinion this warrants punishment for this Reuben guy.
You're allowed to start a knife fight with someone after they punch you? Just wondering for future reference.
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Re: Reuben Allen - improper escalation

Post by Karmac » 31 May 2017, 03:47

It goes fists > melee > guns, if you're wondering. And it seemed like you were looking for that kind of fight anyways considering what was said. However escalating from fists to melee weapons means you forbid the right to ahelp it.
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Re: Reuben Allen - improper escalation

Post by TheDonkified » 31 May 2017, 10:38

Karmac wrote:It goes fists > melee > guns, if you're wondering. And it seemed like you were looking for that kind of fight anyways considering what was said. However escalating from fists to melee weapons means you forbid the right to ahelp it.
Okay. My only issue really is that he immediately tried to shoot me after I punched him. If he immediately tried stabbing me with the knife after I punched, then this report would be invalid.

But now that I look back, I guess I'm just a little salty that he killed me as a survivor. Would it be possible to cancel out this player report, or is the jump from a punch to one gunshot going to warrant serious investigation?
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Re: Reuben Allen - improper escalation

Post by Feweh » 05 Jun 2017, 10:57

This is going to remain an IC issue, simply because you were obviously fishing for a fight.


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