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Feweh Report

Post by Kavlo » 04 Feb 2018, 17:03

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Approximate time and date of the incident (Central Us Time for best results): Around 16:30 EST

Which Staff Protocols (viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5647) were broken:
Preserve the RP and enjoyment of the server:
I was playing MP for majority of the round before I went to cryo and I can say that we had quite a lot of marines being put in the brig and de-limbed for reasons I'll explain in evidence.
Enforcement of the rules:
This is for the whole letting MPs disregard MP procedures and law.
Remain Professional, no matter what happens:
This isn't that big of a deal but I'll include it anyway but midway through I ahelped about if standard MP rules were in effect and was told "Don't be stupid you're an ex-admin".

Description of the incident:
So after briefing USCM High Command informed the CO and CMP that new procedures were in effect, anyone that was arrested was to on top of their brig timer have one of their limbs removed. It was confirmed by USCM High Command and I myself talked with the CL and got his confirmation via a fax from WY confirming it. On top of that we were also informed that anyone who was de-limbed was not entitled to having their limbs replaced. Later on into the round more information was sent, specifically how now it was a punishable offence to curse aswell as two other offences that I don't remember exactly since it was mainly the cursing one was the problem. We had a lot of people cursing and thus a lot of people being brigged and de-limbed. The MPs were also given new uniforms. Eventually the aliens boarded and the marines were slaughtered by the massive horde of xenos since most of their supporting roles (pilots, staff officers, etc) had been de-limbed and left to wander around with one arm or in wheelchairs if provided one though most people were just thrown outside of the brig and left there until a marine or crew rescued them, one PO even got improperly executed. On top of all this going on the Command staff and MPs adopted a nazi like image to themselves. On top of this why would an MP who might've gone through training with some of the marines, been deployed with these marines for months, all of a sudden just be totally fine with chopping off their limbs with a hacksaw because USCM High Command told them to yet standard MP rules are in effect so they had to go with it.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): I didn't grab screenshots at the time so the only one I have is this.
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EDIT : Someone by the name of Silvaplex512 on discord made a collage picture of last round though it is very messy.
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How you would punish the accused: Just temporarily suspend him from doing events.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Emeraldblood » 04 Feb 2018, 18:38

Alright, so I wasn't on during this and I have no clue about anything that went down, other than what I'm being shown here. That said, I'll move on to what I believe.
Feweh is one of the main runners of events and also holds the most freedom to run them in whatever context he wants, not strictly following the flow of a normal round. An example of this would be Human vs Human rounds or Predator Bad-Blood events. From a rules standpoint, I don't believe he did anything wrong. Now you say that this event took away from the overall enjoyment of the round for most people. Being I wasn't in the round and have no idea what it was like, I can't take a stance on that part. While I can imagine that some people not wanting this type of event, I highly doubt Feweh ever had malicious intents with the event.
Overall, while I can see this event type possibly being not favored by everybody, I don't see any need for a punishment for this event. Not every event created is going to be a hit success so we just use what we've learned from the past events in future events, that is if this event was even not enjoyed by the populous in the first place.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Bronimin » 04 Feb 2018, 18:45

I don't know the numbers of course, since adminhelps are private, but a sizable number of players were pushing for a mutiny that entire round and Feweh had (apparently, getting this from the adminhelps that I had sent) told the moderators to forbid any attempts at starting a mutiny because of the xeno threat and that a mutiny would end the round too quickly.

So the military police were brigging and delimbing people for minor crimes and the players were being forbidden from taking any action against it.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Feweh » 04 Feb 2018, 18:48

This report is less about the event and more about Kavlo being salty.

Few evident reasons.

1. Kavlo you never play MP, ever. You literally joined MP during the event purposely to complain.

2. Complaining about that I said "Dont be stupid". We literally joke and call eachother names on Discord all the time. The only reason I said that because we have that type of relationship.

3. You literally joined as an MP, did nothing the entire time and then ghosted late into the round.

This is less of an event issue and more Kavlo being a little bitch to cause drama.

Further more, no rules or guidelines were breached by me. The Event ran technically 100% by the players, who turned the Almayer into a "Nazi" run Command staff. I simply made an event with strict and harsh MP law and the players ran with it and formed it into what it became.

I denied mutiny for a very simple reason. There were 110 Marines vs 50! Xenos. Had we allowed a mutiny, the entire round wouldve tanked instantly.

Some events are great and good hits and some arent. But dont make reports about me running events and try to hide it being your personal grudge Kavlo, grow up.

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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Kavlo » 04 Feb 2018, 19:02

Feweh wrote:
04 Feb 2018, 18:48
This report is less about the event and more about Kavlo being salty.

Few evident reasons.

1. Kavlo you never play MP, ever. You literally joined MP during the event purposely to complain.

2. Complaining about that I said "Dont be stupid". We literally joke and call eachother names on Discord all the time.

This is less of an event issue and more Kavlo being a little bitch to cause drama.

Further more, no rules or guidelines were breached by me. The Event ran technically 100% by the players, who turned the Almayer into a "Nazi" run Command staff. I simply made an event with strict and harsh MP law and the players ran with it.

Some events are great and good hits and some arent. But dont make reports about me running events and try to hide it being your personal grudge Kavlo, grow up.
Few things to cover.

First off I joined at roundstart so saying I joined MP just to complain is dumb. I could ask people to confirm my statement since I was working the south checkpoint before briefing or you can check the logs.

Secondly there is a bit of a difference between being on discord and calling me gay for a laugh then saying "Don't be stupid you're an ex-admin", I also did say it wasn't that big of a deal.

Regarding the rest of it this isn't to cause drama, if I wanted to cause drama I'd go on reddit or discord and spam about "FEWEH CORRUPT MAKING SHIT EVENTS ABUSING HIS POWER", this is the official way to make a report about the server staffing so saying I did this to make drama is plainly a pretty poor response. No rules or guidelines being broken is your opinion. The event wasn't run 100% by the players, you made the announcements stating such changes to marine law, spawning in the bonesaw to de-limb marines aswell as spawning in special uniforms for them. The Nazi thing wasn't your fault as I said "On top of all this going on the Command staff and MPs adopted a nazi like image to themselves".

To finish this off about the whole personal grudge thing I messaged you around a month ago I want to say about me thinking you had a personal grudge against me after previous drama and you said you didn't so I thought we were chill, if any other admin+ had done your event this report would've been for them, I didn't mention things in the report like "Feweh has done this bullshit in the past fucking hang him".
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Eve » 04 Feb 2018, 19:31

Not to mention the 'no smoking' rule that I got delimbed for.

We had like, no POs left, as two got executed and myself (as the other PO), got delimbed for smoking and saying 'fuck' once.

The 'event' could've been much better if the punishment reason was something other than 'no helmet', 'swearing' or 'smoking'.

And the punishment method not cutting people's legs off.

But the most serious offense here, in my opinion, is the fact that the Admins did everything they could to cause a mutiny...

...and then overruled the mutiny OOCly.

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Re: Feweh Report

Post by apophis775 » 04 Feb 2018, 19:56

This will be investigated. It does seem a bit on the excessive side. It may take a few days to talk to the necessary people, so please be patient.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Eliteempire » 04 Feb 2018, 19:58

If possible I want to add some content but this was what I could only hear, I hadn't seen it over general Com's.

One of the squads had said they were going up to mutiny while we were still planet-side, Either got on the last alamo ride up or the second to last one. Which impacted our chance to win on the planet and fucked with our fun. It seems they had gone up without mutiny being approved in the first part.

I actually found the round to be rather fun all things considered because unless you fucked off to cause an issue or chose to break the rules INFRONT of an MP or something else you could've gotten anyway with the smoking or calling the Command staff names. I may be in the minority here however. Apoplgizes if this is trash and unneeded, Will delete it told too.

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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Bancrose » 04 Feb 2018, 20:37

Feweh ran an event, and in his defence he didn't want the mutiny because there was 60 xenos about to come up.

Now to get this straight I was totally down for a mutiny to happen because I deserved it 110%. But to try and atleast preserve the round to some degree, Feweh had me stop brigging people and released them after the unscheduled dropship announcement and we even got PMC's to try to defend the Almayer with what we had left.

So if we DID mutiny. The round would have ended and the xeno players would have been upset as there was nothing to look forward to for them.

The scales tip both ways.

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Re: Feweh Report

Post by NescauComToddy » 04 Feb 2018, 20:56

Those who were 'affected' by the event were fully aware of what they were doing, from what I observed. I agree that the event had partially become a meme in the middle of the round, but this does not justify blaming Feweh for having players deliberately provoking MPs, resulting in them being dismembered. Those who 'lost' their round wanted such a thing by disobeying the simple commands that were passed. Most of those arrested were smoking cigarettes and screaming curses right in front of MPs or on the radio just to be dismembered. A good example would be in which one of the pilots was screaming mutiny and swearing on the radio as if he were twelve years old. Needless to say, he eventually was battlefield executed.

I find it hard to write ";fuck" and hit enter without thinking about the consequences that could result to you from the context of the event.

Practically, as Feweh himself said, this event was entirely driven by the players themselves, and he only introduced authoritarian laws to fit in what Heinz, the commander of that round and other Marines were taking. He (Feweh) made two announcements just to clarify such a thing.

No protocol or guideline was broken, and only those who wanted to suffer the penalties had their 'fun' affected. If this event were to be compromising, I and all Marines would have been dismembered, but we were not naive and simply, instead of purposely losing our limbs for the sole purpose of attention, we continued our round just as we would if that event did not exist. All those who have not been dismembered prove that not to lose your precious arm or leg, you should simply not act incredulously.

Feweh is not responsible if you managed to ruin your own round by yourself, or if you can not control yourself not to write fuck on the radio openly for the MPs to see for 30 minutes. Curiously, there were players who had not realized that an event was happening.

As much asIbelieve that this event did not have a fun aspect or added something to the round as what Feweh typically does, he did not break any protocol, however much this event was not inexcusable, necessary.

Anyway, an investigation is taking place. I'm sure that its results will be fair. I agree with Apop that this event passed slightly out of bounds, even though it was the players themselves who preserved the existence of such.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Mann handle » 04 Feb 2018, 22:09

Got to say, this was one of the worst event rounds I've been in imo. Don't do this again please.

Round start was rather normal (bar the MPs in improper uniform and the retarded pilot), deployment went smoothly, then the whole "marine law has been changed" to include de-limbing a marine who breaks the law and making it illegal to attach prosthetics to those who have committed an offence. While that was fine to start with (bar the proshetics part), later on it got retarded as you'll see.
As a CT i was lucky I was in a role that limited the ways I could really get into trouble without breaking current laws. Then as the round progressed, swearing, smoking were also added to the list of laws that will de-limb you. The effects were rather staggering really because it turned MPs and to some extent the commander, into some ugly form of valid hunter looking for limb removal procedures over the smallest of things. The effects on the round were harsh in that communications, (while normally quick to bog down into a mess) became completely paralyzed and as a cargo tech that effectively kills cargo's role in the game. Seeing as the RO handed me a command headset I saw why. Everyone who was being de-limbed, or was about to be, was in chat nearly constantly, over the whole limb removal laws, mutiny was on nearly everyone's tongues, (I even heard one was killed for it over general comms for merely suggesting it, which was further backed up by MPs also confirming it over their channel (whether procedure was followed or not is another beast in it's own right but I can say i don't recall an announcement over the death)). I can't give much outside of this seeing as I was penned into my department almost all round, partly due to wanting to avoid limbs being removed and partly due to my role being entirely inside the cargo bay so all I can give was accounts of IC talks with an MP who wanted out of that shit and comm chatter.

The round in short became something of a meme round with little RP inside of it. Parts of command was locked in the brig and de-limbed, marines as well and the worst part was that after the de-limbing they also spent time in a cell with nothing to really do (not really much you can do with a leg missing anyway). I think that as it was played out, most of the people snared into this rollercoaster round were either too busy dealing with combat or something (I have no idea what people do when they miss announcements) to notice the announcements only to find a cell and limb missing because of it. Which then lead to salt or the entire corps spiraling into the brig or further salt. Not to mention any deaths caused by this further fueling it.

On the flip side I would argue that marines and co. did this to themselves, seeing as you can just not swear or smoke by choice, the main issue I personally have is that due to admin permission for the event, the round turned into something where OTT was an understatement. There were no real limits as to what would be conceived as law breaking and could have been abused to hell by MPs falsely arresting someone over a cigarette or swearing at them. The fact that if a law was broken (even by accident), you were almost out of the round for the entire time upon being brigged and future combat capability was completely gimped / removed due to the missing leg or arm you had. The entire round was set up in a fashion to permit a mutiny and that was then later denied due to said xenos inbound, even though judging by comms, that murmurs of it was starting rather early into the rounds meme, (whether they Ahelped or not i have no clue).
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Further more, no rules or guidelines were breached by me. The Event ran technically 100% by the players, who turned the Almayer into a "Nazi" run Command staff. I simply made an event with strict and harsh MP law and the players ran with it and formed it into what it became.

I denied mutiny for a very simple reason. There were 110 Marines vs 50! Xenos. Had we allowed a mutiny, the entire round wouldve tanked instantly.
Going to have to ask, when did that even stop mutinies? I've been stuck in rounds where a mutiny has kicked off when the alamo left the station due to xenos calling it down and i'm on about the times when humans didn't really have favorable odds. The round obviously lead to a wipe yet reminded rather fun for both sides all the way in, with the stories marines would tell xenos afterwards, generating a chuckle or two after the round ended.

Also i'd point out that 110 marines would be an incorrect number to use seeing as marines missing limbs might as well die to a young runner (unless they had a gyro'd weapon on hand / a wheelchair to sit in) and that you only announced they be released so late into the round that they had no time to move and prep, mostly due to most of them being unable to move meaning they had to be dragged out of the brig. That and the laws in place, barred them from getting prosthetics if they were released earlier. On the other hand, you did send a team of mercs out to assist and bump the numbers a little, which the commander thankfully allowed to be above the law.

The round went as you planned really, sure command, the marines and MPs could have played this anyway they wanted, the lack of control over the entire event was rather tasteless and didn't really provide any element of fun for most people (see the valid hunting bit). Not to mention the fact that some people simply didn't notice the event kicking off until too late. It in my opinion was a poorly thought out event that shouldn't be tried again, which has only been made worse due to the 'attitude', if I'm allowed to perceive it as that, that you seemed to show during the round and this thread.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Feweh » 04 Feb 2018, 23:56

Mann handle wrote:
04 Feb 2018, 22:09
Going to have to ask, when did that even stop mutinies? I've been stuck in rounds where a mutiny has kicked off when the alamo left the station due to xenos calling it down and i'm on about the times when humans didn't really have favorable odds. The round obviously lead to a wipe yet reminded rather fun for both sides all the way in, with the stories marines would tell xenos afterwards, generating a chuckle or two after the round ended.
Answering because you asked,
Its happened plenty of times.
The common player won't see it, but we deny plenty of Mutiny requests to preserve rounds.

However this varies from staff to staff so I'm sure results are mixed.

On one hand you're saying that people (yourself) would enjoy a good end-round mutiny and there'd be a few laughs. Yet I'm sure we'd then have another playing arguing the exact opposite claiming that they were bored and found it ruined their round. This is a common situation on SS13, especially CM where 10 peoples fun is one persons dislike. At the end of the day you really can't please everyone.


In the end, the event wasn't as good as it could've been. Simply due to the players themselves as usual causing a shit ton of problems. Smoking and Drugs were banned?? Guess what 50% of the marines started to do just to purposely start shit and get arrested.

In truth, no one had to participate in this event and no one was forced into it. (Other than the MPs really)
Anyone who was brigged, de-limbed or subjected to these punishments CHOSE in one aspect or another to put them-self into that position.


It's the definition of walking into a trap that says "Do not enter or face consequences" then said person walking into and complaining that they had to face the consequences after.
The people complaining that the event was shit and they got de-limbed, are literally the people who purposely entered when told their would be consequences.
For reference, a total of maybe 8-10 Marines were brigged due to event which is nowhere near the amount of far cry everyone is shouting.

I thought this whole thing would've gone differently, however due to the players turning into children anytime we allow something a bit different.. it was devolved into a bunch of morons running around screaming and crying for mutiny.

In the end, the event wasn't a great one and definitely not one of my best. Does it warrant a complaint or report? Absolutely fucking not.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Heckenshutze » 05 Feb 2018, 06:56

Before you post, read rule number 2, just a reminder.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by CaptainYankee » 05 Feb 2018, 13:04

Addressing the forbiddance of mutinies:
I was playing during the round in question. I saw many instances of marines taunting the MPs and Command over general comms and then ahelping for mutiny as soon as they were arrested. If you run up in a normal round and punch an MP in the face, you can't ahelp for mutiny when you get arrested.

I only witnessed one occasion of a legitimate mutiny forming when charlie squad and their SO gathered in the canteen to discuss the situation. As plans were being drawn up, the MPs slowly moved in on the squad from all angles and eventually dispersed them using gas canisters and stun batons. Other than this occasion it seemed like most mutinies were players who had a gun and wanted to use it on an MP. Feweh declined to allow charlie to mutiny because the aliens had taken LZ1 and the round was gonna end soon anyways. Charlie accepted this and moved on with the round.

IMO it was an event seeded by someone who has the authority and trust of the server to do that. Had things shook out a different way it might have been an amazing round of the heroic marines overthrowing an abusive command and then crushing the alien menace. But in a PvP game things don't always go down how you like. FWIW I think that a discussion of experiments like this is valuable feedback. But a report over this is not reasonable.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Stripetail » 05 Feb 2018, 17:23

I feel like I may have been in this round, but I also believe I died rather early and went to play other things. (That being said the concept of these punishments and the event itself ring a bell.)

I don't believe the event was a real shindig, but I also don't think it's fair to attribute that to Feweh. This event if I remember correctly was largely the result of the MP's of the round and those players that purposely or not broke the laws to get the punishments. As for the mutiny prevention, I believe Feweh had the best intentions and was attempting to salvage the round, and had to weigh the plight of the players affected by the event against the amount of players who would have been without a round on the opposing side.

I think overall it was just a really shit position to be put into where no matter what one side or the other would have felt cheated out of the round. Marines being able to mutiny would have likely ruined the round for aliens, and in preventing the mutiny some marines felt that they were just enslaved to the event with no other option.

Anywho, when the event started I had no ill or great feelings about it, it was just another thing that happened, I wasn't around for the finale of it but from the many players I chat and play with I've not heard much bad about it, so take that how you may. Sorry for rambling.

TL/DR: Event wasn't micromanaged by the accused, I don't feel they deserve all the blame. The event didn't impact my round at all, and I've heard from at least 5+ players that they enjoyed it, and none have told me otherwise. Accused also tried to save the round for both sides, but I feel the salt is drowning out that attempt.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Kesserline » 06 Feb 2018, 04:36

I was a RO during the entire round.

My unenjoyment had 2 sources, one totally independant from Feweh (Having to babysit 2 new CTs + having an unresponsive Command and Squad Leaders + blablah I'm player whining), second was from the total mis-RP created by the Event.

I totally understand and totally support Feweh's decision towards mutiny denial. There were 50 Xenos players waiting groundside, allowing munity would have made them wait 30 minutes for nothing, only to pick up scraps. Especially as they have barely no RP to make, except *roar or *plasma. Feweh was right on that very point.

Where I totally disagree with Feweh is the RP immersion totally ruined.
We are supposed to be a battalion, with bond making with other people in the battalion.
A law change (which, theorically would only be enforced after a certain amount of time to let people prepare for it, IRL, in most countries, laws are enforced only the year after they are voted) and everyone goes nuts. And there goes the RP immersion.

Even if the players were mostly responsible for the outcome of the event, the fact that you didn't set clear boundaries, or try to redirect it, at least in a lightly way, ruined RP for the rest of the battalion non-involved.

I mean, human versus human, or all other events have clear boundaries, with RP and OOC rules to preserve BOTH RP and Enjoyment. This event clearly had no boundaries towards RP matter. Marine Law requires from MPs to be stoical, serious and meticulous players : just unleashing other aspects of their personality is wierd, especially on a MP background. They are named by the Provost Department itself ! They have to OOCly abide the Marine Law or get jobbanned.

I'm not a peasant with a fork asking for Feweh's head, I would just events more secured to preserve RP immersion.

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Re: Feweh Report

Post by apophis775 » 06 Feb 2018, 16:39

What do you all think the difference would have been, between a mutiny that crippled the marine forces ability to respond, and the marines being unable to fight because they were physically crippled?
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Kavlo » 06 Feb 2018, 17:11

apophis775 wrote:
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What do you all think the difference would have been, between a mutiny that crippled the marine forces ability to respond, and the marines being unable to fight because they were physically crippled?
Either option and the marines were basically screwed but neither option would've been a problem if the event hadn't happened. I think overall the event was just a bad idea and should've been stopped at the many red flags that were presented, I even IC had the CL contact Weyland to get confirmation incase it was perhaps like a UPP plot and they had hacked the Almayer's Communications and were sending false information.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by Stripetail » 06 Feb 2018, 17:56

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06 Feb 2018, 16:39
What do you all think the difference would have been, between a mutiny that crippled the marine forces ability to respond, and the marines being unable to fight because they were physically crippled?
I'm going to base this off of numbers, as in the end that's what I believe the decision came down to.

The mutiny would have likely ended up with a ton of wounded or dead on either side, marines being shoved in brig if they didn't succeed, marines being stuck in medical due to overflow. If we're lucky and nobody took the opportunity to join the mutiny to grief it would have crippled the marines as a whole much more than the sum of the players who lost their limbs. If we take into account that there would likely be people who don't know what a mutiny means who would attempt to start killing for the hell of it and all the players who may get harmed in the crossfire that had no part in it, we end up with an even bigger number of players who've had their round ended or ruined.

The cripple option affected less people than I feel the mutiny would have based on the several mutinies I've seen and been a part of. I also feel that if you have one leg and arm you can still fight with some effectiveness in a defensive battle.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by NescauComToddy » 06 Feb 2018, 18:28

apophis775 wrote:
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What do you all think the difference would have been, between a mutiny that crippled the marine forces ability to respond, and the marines being unable to fight because they were physically crippled?
Firstly, we must bear in mind that not all marines were affected by this event, and in fact, the number of marines that had their limbs dismembered turns around 7+, which is an insignificant number when comparing such with 50+.

A mutiny because seven people decided to attend this event and ended up suffering the consequences of their acts would eventually affect the Marine's integrity much more than the event itself, and that is the reason why I believe that Feweh wisely prevented the mutiny that might have happened.

What I am realizing is that so far, several people believe that this event, which was only contextualized by Feweh, was compulsory, requiring the participation of all players, which is completely false, as only a few Marines (+7 ) suffered the consequences. Allowing a mutiny on account of this would be allowed, but extremely unnecessary as this would end the round instantly in such circumstances.

Keep in mind that these seven, ten Marines who resolved to intentionally provoke MPs would cause a mutiny because they are unable to accept the consequences of their actions.
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Post by davidofmk771 » 06 Feb 2018, 18:58

I joined as MP during this round right near the end (to my great confusion), and while I don't have much to say that hasn't already been said, I believe that when the xenos came to the ship, the RNG decided to slam it smack dab outside of CIC, smashing the missile tubes and pouring xenos directly into the heavily damaged CIC, who subsequently killed the remainder of the command staff and MPs barricading it. I feel that a mutiny could have made some people feel better (both ICly and OOCly) about the situation, but if it was allowed, well, I think we can all guess where the unwashed masses congregate when 'mutiny approved' is uttered (hint: right outside CIC, duh).

Honestly, I enjoy the openness to events in this server, especially when faced with the cultures of certain others (where event invariably equals abuse no matter how fun and interesting). I only have two criticisms regarding this event:

How plum goofy it was, though I can appreciate that kinda thing when it only happens every once in a while, which, at this point, seems to be the case.

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The fact that late joining MPs had no indication as to whether this was an event other than what seemed to be admin-spawned gear and the fact that all the other MPs were doing it. Given the spontaneous nature of the event, however, I can see how this was overlooked.

I don't really feel like anything truly malicious has happened here, rather just a mishmash of negative scenarios that congealed together to create the shit sandwich we all had to bite before the game reset and "A Good Day to Die" rang in a new round.

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Post by Kiroking » 06 Feb 2018, 21:18

NescauComToddy wrote:
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What I am realizing is that so far, several people believe that this event, which was only contextualized by Feweh, was compulsory, requiring the participation of all players, which is completely false, as only a few Marines (+7 ) suffered the consequences. Allowing a mutiny on account of this would be allowed, but extremely unnecessary as this would end the round instantly in such circumstances.
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I don't really know where the low number of 7+ came from but I count around 22 limbs in total, with a staff officer and marine about to add to that number. Granted several marines had more than one limb removed but not all of them did.
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Post by apophis775 » 06 Feb 2018, 22:17

Yeah, numbers I was told was far greater than 7-10. Though, I'm hitting the logs tomorrow to get actual numbers.
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Post by NescauComToddy » 06 Feb 2018, 23:09

You have a valid point, maybe the number was well greater than 10. I confess that the information that was passed to me on the number of affected players was incorrect.

Even so, the event was not a macro-event, and those who suffered its consequences were those who purposely seek the attention of the MPs during that round, knowing full well the consequences that would be afflicted against them.

This event became a problem because of the large number of Marines trying to face the authority of the MPs, that is, because of the childishness of some players who walked where they should not, knowing full well that they would lose a good portion of their rounds.

EDIT: The integrity of the round was not necessarily damaged by the admin being reported, not even on account of the players who led it, but because a large number of other players decided to participate in such a large amount, which resulted in a micro-event that had a small impact on the round.

Therefore, the problem that resulted in this report was not created by the players who took the course of the event and much less the manager, but by a number of players who acted in a childlike manner, which resulted in many marines and civilians to be mutilated in their search for the attention of the MPs, knowing full well the consequences.

Like it or not, it's not fair to report the players who conducted the event or the Admin who added context to it, since what caused this report to be made was the unpredictable number of immature players who indirectly decided to participate in it and develop the unwanted impact in the round.
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Re: Feweh Report

Post by apophis775 » 07 Feb 2018, 05:16

Were you actually in the round?
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