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Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by EstangaJr0830 » 11 Jun 2018, 04:51

Your Byond Key: Erwinorosco831

Your Character Name: Gus Compton

Their Byond key: Driecg36

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central Us Time for best results): 3AM CST 4AM EST

Which Staff Protocols (viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5647) were broken: Protocol 3 and 4?

Description of the incident: Essentially, earlier today I was in the CIC as a Staff Officer, then a marine in medical knifed a doctor, and they called for help. With there being no military police, I went to investigate, and when I arrived in the medical bay the marine was on the ground, presumably resting. I aimed my weapon at him, and then put it down after he stayed down. I then went to the brig to grab cuffs, and then returned. When I arrived, I attempted to put cuffs on the marine but Miranda, who I currently have a player report in on decided to shove and punch me, and then I attempted to aim my weapon at her, but I had inadvertently switched from aim to fire, and fired a single shot at her. I then dragged the marine to the brig, where I intended to hold him when the admin decided to intervene, after he had not done so against the marine, apparently no one had contacted him. However, I feel that as the marine was breaking the rule in the first place my mistake of firing at the synthetic should be overlooked. I have not had a single note besides this since I returned from a permanent ban even with playing several rounds a day. I understand this is a bit to ask, but it was truly a mistake firing at Miranda, and the rest was justified with there being no MPs on staff.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):

How you would punish the accused: I would not prefer a punishment of the admin, but rather a revocation of the notes and warning against my record. I intended no harm by attempting to aim at the synthetic, but it was provoked. I came attempting to prevent further harms against the doctors who had been hurt by a obviously griefing marine. It was my mistake of not ahelping beforehand, but I presumed the doctors would've been smart enough to do that on my own, obviously a miscalculation on my part. I do think that Driecg was too hard on me, given that I was merely trying to prevent further harm and rulebreaking after I assumed admins were doing nothing.
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Re: Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by driecg36 » 11 Jun 2018, 05:05

I had not been informed of the situation in medbay, and therefore I could not deal with it. All I saw was an SO shooting a synth. Aim intent makes very little difference, as you should never use aim intent unless you intend to shoot whoever you're aiming at. You cannot reasonably complain about staff not handling a situation if you don't even bother to ahelp it.

I was very lenient leaving it at just a warning, considering how hostile and unfriendly you were in PMs (which, may I add, made it take longer to deal with the original griefer since I was the only moderator on). You also proceeded to immediately log off after we were done talking, presumably to make this report.

I specifically dropped the issue of you enforcing marine law once I realized there were no active MPs, something I informed you of multiple times.

Honestly, the warning was lenient considering your note history and your attitude.
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Re: Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by EstangaJr0830 » 11 Jun 2018, 05:09

I disagree. My laptop died and I had to go get my charger, and afterwards I forgot to rejoin the server while I was writing both reports. I understand that you were not aware of the issue, but I was attempting to solve something for you. I don't think that I should be punished for that, and you are wrong. People aim all the time without the intent to shoot on colonial marines.

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Re: Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by EstangaJr0830 » 11 Jun 2018, 05:11

My attitude was solely based on trying to solve something for the server, and getting completely shafted for it. I have not had a single note or issue since returning from perma, and I thought that should've been taken with way more weight that you give me credit, given that it was a simple misunderstanding that I shot the Synth.

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Re: Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by driecg36 » 11 Jun 2018, 05:13

You should not attempt to solve things for staff in the future. If you see rules being broken, ahelp.
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Re: Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by EstangaJr0830 » 11 Jun 2018, 05:17

As I said, I presumed that the doctors had already ahelped and no one was doing anything. I suppose I should always report stuff I see even if there are already other people there, but that was not my first instinct.

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Post by Karmac » 11 Jun 2018, 05:33

EstangaJr0830 wrote:
11 Jun 2018, 05:17
I suppose I should always report stuff I see even if there are already other people there, but that was not my first instinct.
well there's yer problem.

I don't personally see anything wrong with how driecg adressed this issue; you tried to handle something you weren't meant to, fucked up and learned a valuable lesson as a result.
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Re: Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by NethIafins » 11 Jun 2018, 05:38

Right, halt any back and forth conversations for now. Let's get into the situation at hand.
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Re: Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by driecg36 » 11 Jun 2018, 05:42

"[03:14:07]GAME: <a href='?priv_msg=[0x5000043]'>Erwinorosco831</a>/(Gus Compton) has ghosted."

I didn't know you ghosted when your laptop died? Such unfortunate timing too.
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Post by NethIafins » 11 Jun 2018, 05:57

I did not see log out prior or after ghosting
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Re: Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by NGGJamie » 11 Jun 2018, 08:56

There is absolutely nothing wrong with how this was handled. When a staff member handles a breach of rules, regardless of how small it is, noting the person who did so is a common and expected practice.

We can't always handle everything that happens on the server unless we're informed or happen to see a log come up of it. Should the first guy have gotten talked to? Sure. But without us being aware of it, there's no way that could happen.
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Re: Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by EstangaJr0830 » 11 Jun 2018, 08:58

As you have so gracefully point out I should have ahelped, and I will do so in the future. I see that, and will remember to ahelp even if I presume that another person would've already done so.

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Re: Staff Report - Driecg36

Post by slc97 » 16 Jun 2018, 09:34

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