Player Report on Lokiki

[Bancrose]

Your Byond Key: Bancrose

Your Character Name: Heinz 'Wulfe' Meuller

Accused Byond Key(if known): Lokiki

Character Name: Elite Empress

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 10:05 AM

What rule(s) were broken: Rule 8/9 No Meta/Powergaming

Description of the incident: So we landed on the planet, everything was seeming good. I went and swept through engineering, research and those caves until command ordered us back to LZ1. I came back and I saw the Queen and the entire hive inside of the hangar attacking the tank and the alamo. I don't know what time it was but we have been on the planet for about 10-15 minutes. They melted through the northern hangar. Somehow also managing to kill the Alamo PO and locking it down. They proceeded to capture and kill the rest. When I ahelped after I died due to not having the time to ahelp. The Admin I pmed had told me it was due to bravos incompetence. I saw that Lisa was the SL and I'd argue otherwise. Marines are not going to fortify the Northern Hangar first as that is meta knowledge. They are going to get the most important areas right away. I with reasonable suspicion believe that it was straight meta rush. Because I as the Commander would never order marines to rush Lamda or Research within 10 minutes of landing. I also understand its General Rules day but Powergaming and Metarushing are General Rules.

I would also like to bring some attention that Marines are unable to meta the fact that the flanks of the LZ1 are able to be melted by xenos. Yet Xenos can just melt through that knowing marines wouldn't fortify it most of the time due to Meta Double Standards. By the time Bravo was attacked they were still digging sandbags and setting up barricades.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): The Logs

How you would punish the accused: Warning/Jobban from Queen, Or Xeno if queen isn't possible.

[Avalanchee]

Can confirm, Bravo was completely memed by Lokiki at 12:40~

[Twizz]

I can also confirm this. An ancient runner of the round even stated that the queen sayd: "Hivelord, make a tunnel in north-sec inside of the tunnels." And then proceeded to say "I feel like today hosts will rain from the sky." Which can be confirmed if someone looks in the logs. Without seeing any sign of marines a queen shouldn't be able to just simply prepare LZ1 for a rush because they 'Feel' somethings gonna happen and then just strike. 3 Entire pieces of wall were melted and destroyed at the north Big bread hangar and the queen indeed screeched, opened the cockpit and killed the PO, then rushed back out of the fight again.

[Lokiki_01]

Yep, I prepared the tunnel BEFORE marines landed. And we used it right when Delta came rushing in hive guns blasing.

I wanted round to be a bit more than stalemate at hive then stalemate at LZ1. It was a fair fight, Young hive against 3 full squads with tank.

[NethIafins]

Yep, I prepared the tunnel BEFORE marines landed. And we used it right when Delta came rushing in hive guns blasing

Interesting...

[awan]

So, I have been yelled at on prison for going past the yard to the lz when there was no one at the lz. And by that logic this should not be ok either.
I am waiting for staff who was there to comment on this and give their 2 cents.

[Bancrose]

Yep, I prepared the tunnel BEFORE marines landed. And we used it right when Delta came rushing in hive guns blasing

Did you genuinely just admit to metagaming?

Mein Gott. Thats me going Commander and going straight to Research, with the entire platoon. and OBing myself in.

I'm speechless.

[spheretech]

I was bravo SL.
As soon as we landed we noticed an unusual amount of xenos coming from the brig.
Our engineers weren't the best. I had to tell them to mend the tcomms apc wires.
I don't think we put down more than 5 barricades before I heard screams and what was probably half the hive with queen included coming from the north of LZ1. I saw the queen, Lokiki, on the dropship and near the cockpit, presumably there to lock it. Bravo suffered heavy losses before backup arrived.
They came so quickly I had to walk off screen just to yell to command that theres a horde of aliens at lz1.

I think there is no doubt this is one of the worst cases of xeno meta I've seen.
Besides this case, Lokiki has an extensive note history related to xeno things.

Edit: Also forgot to mention that bravo was the only squad at lz1, which contributed to us being almost wiped out.

[Kavlo]

OOF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd9muK2M36c

[NethIafins]

Yep, I prepared the tunnel BEFORE marines landed. And we used it right when Delta came rushing in hive guns blasing.

I wanted round to be a bit more than stalemate at hive then stalemate at LZ1. It was a fair fight, Young hive against 3 full squads with tank.

My question is why you planted a tunnel there?

[Avalanchee]

I wanted round to be a bit more than stalemate at hive then stalemate at LZ1. It was a fair fight, Young hive against 3 full squads with tank.

To be fair,
only Alpha + Bravo was there and they left like 5+ marines shipside in REQ waiting for attachements
They didn't even had a chance to place Cades up or anything, when we arrived we saw.. 3 cades with barbed wire and one sandbag wall. That's it.

Charlie and Delta arrived like 5~ minutes after other squads started calling for help. I was in the main Charlie & Delta research blob.

[spheretech]

To be fair,
only Alpha + Bravo was there and they left like 5+ marines shipside in REQ waiting for attachements
They didn't even had a chance to place Cades up or anything, when we arrived we saw.. 3 cades with barbed wire and one sandbag wall. That's it.

Charlie and Delta arrived like 5~ minutes after other squads started calling for help. I was in the main Charlie & Delta research blob.

It was only bravo, alpha arrived only like 2 minutes after the aliens had started their assault (from the south). The whole attack completely caught me off guard

[Lokiki_01]

I just said. I made it to flank marines after they would rush us in the caves. And again yes. I even told in OOC after round ended that I metagamed the fuck out of marines. Noone told me a thing.

[Bancrose]

Cause I ahelped the admin and he said it was due to Bravos Incompetence. So they probably didn't think what was being done was wrong. I'd like to think otherwise

[NethIafins]

I just said. I made it to flank marines after they would rush us in the caves. And again yes. I even told in OOC after round ended that I metagamed the fuck out of marines. Noone told me a thing.

I applaud your honesty.
I think this will be resolved soon by managers

[Sleepy Retard]

I was also in the round...

We (Charlie + Delta) weren't even finish out scouting mission (having JUST cleared research) before the Commander, William 'Jester' Crimson ordered ALL squads to defend the LZ after they had been rushed in like what...30 minutes? There was only a couple of cades, and the squad had NO way of being prepared for it, this wasn't a fast play by the queen - this was quite literally a meta rush with a meta setup, being prepared to flank them. The squad who was on FOB was mostly wiped before we could run back from research.

Blatant meta, man.

[Lokiki_01]

Honestly, there's only one reason I did this. I'm sick of stalemates, playing from both sides. We get 4-5 hours rounds with NOTHING at all in them. With Queens sitting in hive untill ancient, with xenos so buffed they don't even need to try to do anything. With marines dying to dumb chokepoints at caves.
It was an open fight where died most of the hive, where I almost died couple of times. With a bit of luck marines could've won this

[spheretech]

Honestly, there's only one reason I did this. I'm sick of stalemates, playing from both sides. We get 4-5 hours rounds with NOTHING at all in them. With Queens sitting in hive untill ancient, with xenos so buffed they don't even need to try to do anything. With marines dying to dumb chokepoints at caves.
It was an open fight where died most of the hive, where I almost died couple of times. With a bit of luck marines could've won this

It's not up to you to change this by breaking rules and you know it. I am sick of LETTING the aliens get to elite but I still don't lead my squad straight where I know the queen is.

[Lokiki_01]

Well, it's just me. I did this as marine before, I'm doing this as xeno now. Nothing have changed for me and people still upset by my playstile. But hey, I remeber how treys were fixed like couple of days after people got really salty about me using them as runner. People will be mad for a few hours and they everyone going to forget this round really

[NethIafins]

Honestly, there's only one reason I did this. I'm sick of stalemates, playing from both sides. We get 4-5 hours rounds with NOTHING at all in them. With Queens sitting in hive untill ancient, with xenos so buffed they don't even need to try to do anything. With marines dying to dumb chokepoints at caves.
It was an open fight where died most of the hive, where I almost died couple of times. With a bit of luck marines could've won this

It would be fine and dandy if you attacked them right on deployment (after some moving from your hive location to the lz). But instead you prepared for it with all meta knowledge anyone can have.

My question then is what you would do if all marines dropped on ds2? Where your plan for quick and "interesting" game would be?

[Lokiki_01]

I would bail the plan then and just fight them head on. It's not like I cheese all rounds I play. I had a lot of pretty normal and alright rounds without any meta shittlery.

[NethIafins]

Your EVERY round has to be "pretty normal and alright without any meta shittlery."

[Lokiki_01]

Well, I won't do it in future either way. I will be banned or just won't do this. But I am not sorry for what I did, xeno players were having fun fighting agressivly and I'm good with it

[Lokiki_01]

Murray...Marines don't have fun dying in 70% of deaths. And remeber, this shit won't be possible without overbuffed Queeb, never.
Was it fun for xenos to die from SADAR memes? no. Was it fun to die from runner with two huggers in hands? no. Was it fun to die to neurospitting Queen? no, but it was buffed back. Was it fun to die from warrior tossing you away? AGAIN NO.

There're a lot of not fun stuff on this server. A lot of cheese and salt.

[Cry of Wolves]

Alright. There is enough talk to see where this is going. I am going to lock this thread before it gets heated.

My own piece is that this is blatant metagaming. They even admitted it. Just because it is general rules day, doesn't mean you are free to power/metagame.