Player Report - Aestel Rose Wellick

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Re: Player Report - Aestel Rose Wellick

Post by Symbiosis » 07 Jul 2018, 07:07

awan wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 06:57
That baton is on the floor and not in the hands.


There is nothing in the logs showing any attacks from me.

It’s on the floor because we beat you to death. We can’t touch that thing, it would’ve stunned us. You equipped it and were beat to a bloody pulp.
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Re: Player Report - Aestel Rose Wellick

Post by awan » 07 Jul 2018, 07:12

Symbiosis wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 07:07
It’s on the floor because we beat you to death. We can’t touch that thing, it would’ve stunned us. You equipped it and were beat to a bloody pulp.
It being on the floor means I was not using it. And once more there are no logs of me using anything after the crash.
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Re: Player Report - Aestel Rose Wellick

Post by Symbiosis » 07 Jul 2018, 07:31

awan wrote:
07 Jul 2018, 07:12
It being on the floor means I was not using it. And once more there are no logs of me using anything after the crash.
Just because you lacked the competence to use it doesn't mean you didn't try. You whipped it out with full intention of using it. You just got beat to a pulp and dropped it.

You've got full access to logs. So if you're saying all this occurred BEFORE a dropship was hurtling at us, please provide that. I'm not going to get into a discussion on specific seconds from an event that happened 2-3 weeks ago and is still unresolved when only one of us has the logs.
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Re: Player Report - Aestel Rose Wellick

Post by driecg36 » 07 Jul 2018, 10:50

In case of rule 2:

While I'd rather not have to point this out because I'm just going to get rule 2'd for not actually being staff, I'll post this in the hopes a staff member will mimic this in some regard.

As it stands, this argument is going nowhere but downhill. Throwing around ad hominems doesn't help the other side understand, and I'd like to address the fact that this report is against Aestell for BREAKING ROLEPLAY GUIDELINES

Given this, you have flip flopped from it beaking roleplay guidelines to being an improper mutiny in the same first post, and then swapping over to it was grief because they tried to stop you from doing your job in a hectic situation. What EXACTLY are you reporting Aestell for, Awan?

Now I have a question. If the Commander, and only the commander, was a threat by pulling out their mateba, why would you use a non instant AoE stun? If you're being truthful about the situation, a taser would be infinitely more useful and less of a ruckus starter.

Second of all, yes the stun baton is on the ground. However being beaten to death would also indicate you wouldn't be able to carry the baton, as random crits that stun you for a little bit - fists are a thing that can do that.

Lastly, High Command is an In-Character face of the Staff Team. It isn't grief if someone disagrees with high command wants done (depending on the context, but for this reason we assume there was a roleplay reason.) High Command wanted the CO arrested. This is fine. You complied, given the nature of your job, and set forth to do so. However the Marines decided to punch you dead as they disagreed with this order and you were actively stunning SOMEONE. Now. Is this low RP, griefing, or a bad mutiny as I had asked up above.

All in all, you're making this report look worse and worse for both sides. Cool it down lads, wait for a verdict. I feel like we have an extra page of argument that added nothing but a flip flop of stance. Stating the same thing over and over does not help anything, and I'd rather not backseat moderate but it's clear you guys are too tangled in this mess to think objectively and clearly.

Just chill, just chill.

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Re: Player Report - Aestel Rose Wellick

Post by Emeraldblood » 07 Jul 2018, 18:45

To update, this hasn't been ignore but head discussion regarding this has been moving slowly. This should be resolved soon but unless you have anything serious to add, we don't need any more drama/debates within this thread.
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Re: Player Report - Aestel Rose Wellick

Post by Emeraldblood » 20 Jul 2018, 17:38

Long wait, but this has officially been addressed. The reported people aren't being punished and this event will be left as IC regarding them. Awan has been warned regarding problem-causing with Marine Law and is set to improve or face real consequences. The prior part was announced for transparency about the situation at hand, however, this does not mean players can target him to cause trouble with the intent to get him in trouble.

Resolved - No punishments will be taken against the reported; Awan has been addressed regarding this and past events.
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