Your Byond Key: Iceshadow20
Your Character Name: Asmodius 'Thor' Smith
Their Byond key: SirLordington
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central Us Time for best results): Wed, June 20th of 2018
Which Staff Protocols (viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5647) were broken:
2. Investigate the situation
a. Contact anyone involved and get their side of the story. Also, check logs. It may not be immediately visible WHO caused the situation, and you may need to talk to several people to figure it out. Try to do this as quickly and efficiently.
3. Determine the seriousness of the issue
a. This is very important because the seriousness should match the punishment. For example: using light netspeak (emoji’s and such) is not a bannable offense for first time offenders; however, killing a marine for an insufficient reasons is.
Description of the incident: I rolled survivor chaplain, I had a bible, some other random goodies and whatever else on me. I survived the Xeno onslaught and a predator wanted to duel me after saying, "You owe me." I decided that'll be fun, never actually dueled a pred like this before. I nearly won but died because of my lack of armor compared to clan gear, all my bones were broken, fairly certain I had IB and organ damage, other things that would make me die without Marine aide. Four Marines watched me duel the pred, one of which was a medic who defibbed me after the duel, splinted all four to five of my limbs which were broken, maybe eight? I know all of my appendages had a shatter in there somewhere. I was dead without Marine aide and I already knew the predator wasn't going to do anything to aide me after I lost the duel, but, I did gain his honor which is something I will come back to. Fast forward, Autodoc'ed blessing random Marines, I'm starting to get random sharp pains in my body, I go to a Health Analyzer, after realizing I had no explicit damage, I knew I had organ damage. While I was at the nano-med scanning myself, a man in black came up and said: "Against the wall, you're being searched." And of course, I'm going to resist slightly and try to run back down to the planet which is what I did. I was a survivor, I had no intention of staying on the ship besides not wanting to die.
I'm now arrested for what I presume to be resisting arrest and some other things, couldn't really recall what I was arrested for, but disrespect was in there I believe, against the CMP. They looted all of my trophies, all of my everything that I had earned from the Predator, stole my Bible as the chaplain, took my Alien Knife which the predator gave to me after I fought him honorably, basically took all of my gear.
This is where I went V for Vendetta, however, I NEVER TOUCHED A SINGLE PERSON. No one was ever beaten by me, I did not shoot anyone, I did not ABUSE anyone. No one was harm-intented by me until the end. I used peaceful methods to gather all of my gear and as I did this, I provided SEVERAL warnings to the MP staff aboard the ship that for stealing my gear there would be the consequence with the CMP being my main target in all of this. He abused me several times, pepper-spraying me, straight-jacketing me, and other things all while I was in my cell or even receiving surgery. I was a very resistant survivor and methods were used against me for incapacitation, maybe too aggressively which created a survivor which disliked the Military Police aboard the Almayer. I gathered all my equipment, hacked into the brig, welding the main entrance of the brig shut and stole my gear out of their confiscation bin. After this, I AHelped about breaking APCs which I was told yes and then no by SirLordington who over-ruled the Moderator MVP777's call.
I broke half the lights in upper deck to create a spooky atmosphere, there's a survivor on board who is actively threatening the MPs aboard the ship who is upperdeck. I relayed my location several times, telling them to visit me in the upper deck and still THREATENING them over the comms that I had. Patton 'Hardtack' Moore was traveling through the darkness with his armor light on and I spotted him, he saw me and immediately realized what was happening. His attempts to taser me were overpowered by the stun prod that I had created through NON-HOSTILE MEANS. Unscrewing a window, taking things, popping the window back into place. Theft and Trespassing were the two laws that I had broken in collecting all of this gear to get back at the Military Police onboard the ship.
I stunprodded the MP and cable-cuffed him and a Marine who was hyped up on Ultrazine came by and stripped him from all of his gear which I would not have done, but, just his ear-piece and his incapacitating MP gear. SirLordington comes next to me AGhosted and talking to me in LOOC asking for me to explain myself and apparently all of this wasn't a valid reason to 'Excessively Antag,' which gives MPs valid reason to abuse survivors with them not being able to retaliate in the slightest apparently.
Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): Warned for excessive antagging as a survivor even after marines defibbed him because they took his gear. More survivor shittery should be met with a jobban. | Wed, June 20th of 2018
I have no screenshots because I didn't consider this would actually happen, considering how severe apparently this was to him when compared to me. Nothing I did seemed out of place in my point of view. I have no logs either.
How you would punish the accused: A warning.
Staff Report - SirLordington
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Asmodius
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Staff Report - SirLordington
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Re: Staff Report - SirLordington
I remember this round. Someone in dchat said you were antagging. Lordington asked for the name of the alledged selfantagger (you) and I suppose he looc spoke with you right after.
Probably the lack of investigation was caused by him looking into a dchat message rather than an ahelp, but it's up to the chat logs to prove this
Probably the lack of investigation was caused by him looking into a dchat message rather than an ahelp, but it's up to the chat logs to prove this
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Re: Staff Report - SirLordington
We are going to skip you getting to almayer and stuff and just jump to situation 1 - first arrest:
then it continued with:
Skipping lots of logs of you shouting at MP for false arrest
Then:
Start of combat situation:
After you did your time:
Your first Ahelp:
Now you started sabotaging the ship
Then you proceeded to combat with MP:
And some of your talks in LOOC:
Then this happened:
Final dialog with SirLordington:
Comments after round end:
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Asmodius
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Re: Staff Report - SirLordington
All of those are correct yes, he even disarmed me first in some of those logs while I was in the prison cell. The LOOC logs were when I was talking to SirLordington, I wasn't just muttering to myself, he was aghosted next to me talking to me in LOOC and that was me trying to explain myself in a hurry. I even had to cut some of my AHs short due to MPs walking up on me while I was typing them.
The random logs of me going "ACH!" were the sharp pains in my chest from the heart damage I had that remained untreated after my initial surgery. Heart pain usually leads to death once untreated for 10-15 minutes I'm fairly certain so that was kind of a worry. The OOC texts were me saying "I don't care enough." It was because it was a note, I didn't get banned, a note is basically something for people to look at and go "Oh." If I had been banned, that would have been slightly worrying or even jbanned. I consider myself one of the better and actually competent survivors you run into.
At the bottom of combat log, was me getting pepper-sprayed, the three times scream. Me saying "David, don't look for me." He was another survivor who I kept alive on the planet, he was consistently worried about me and I believe tried to break into the brig several times to get me out as well.
I thank you for providing these logs.
He also chucked a hotdog at me.
The random logs of me going "ACH!" were the sharp pains in my chest from the heart damage I had that remained untreated after my initial surgery. Heart pain usually leads to death once untreated for 10-15 minutes I'm fairly certain so that was kind of a worry. The OOC texts were me saying "I don't care enough." It was because it was a note, I didn't get banned, a note is basically something for people to look at and go "Oh." If I had been banned, that would have been slightly worrying or even jbanned. I consider myself one of the better and actually competent survivors you run into.
At the bottom of combat log, was me getting pepper-sprayed, the three times scream. Me saying "David, don't look for me." He was another survivor who I kept alive on the planet, he was consistently worried about me and I believe tried to break into the brig several times to get me out as well.
I thank you for providing these logs.
He also chucked a hotdog at me.
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Re: Staff Report - SirLordington
Oh yea, I'd also like to mention I said disposal his gear as response to the Marine who had stripped the MP of all of his clothing, I'm pretty sure I told him to put the uniform back on and everything, I wasn't going to be carrying around a naked MP. The gear disposaling suggestion was after he had taken everything and was either going to take it or leave it laying on the ground at the scene of the crime.
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Re: Staff Report - SirLordington
Right, I'm not seeing any evidence that what Lordington did was wrong. At the point that you were revived and brought to the ship as a survivor, you lost the right to antag. We may have overlooked certain antaggy behavior, but you were excessively self-antagging as a rescued survivor. It makes no sense, particularly for a chaplain, to wanna run back to an overrun colony. This is again a "play your role" type of issue, and I'm going to uphold the jobban. You can appeal that here on the forums.
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Edit: It has been brought to my attention that I misread the note, and the player in question was warned, not jobbanned. Honestly, that just reinforces my position on the situation seeing as it was just a warning for the excessive self-antagging.
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Edit: It has been brought to my attention that I misread the note, and the player in question was warned, not jobbanned. Honestly, that just reinforces my position on the situation seeing as it was just a warning for the excessive self-antagging.
