Staff Report: Unknown
- awan
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Re: Staff Report: Unknown
From reading the logs it was not ruled prevication for the any arrest but for the order. (Perhaps close to an njp as order.) Going down to the fob to defend it is not normaly inside mp duties.
Recently an issue arose from an commander ordering a cmp to clean a prep room. After that njp's definition has been changed.
This is why both parties might have considered them to be right in this scenario. Sending mp's down to the fob is not what their duties (normaly) contained. And needed special permission during the old rules.
It seems to be miscommunication and assumptions that brought us here.
Recently an issue arose from an commander ordering a cmp to clean a prep room. After that njp's definition has been changed.
This is why both parties might have considered them to be right in this scenario. Sending mp's down to the fob is not what their duties (normaly) contained. And needed special permission during the old rules.
It seems to be miscommunication and assumptions that brought us here.
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Sorry - You don't get to arrest anyone you want because they gave you an order you objectively viewed as an NJP. Especially when it is a superior. MP's aren't this untouchable God-force that gets to choose whatever they do, whenever they do. (Well, technically they are pretty close right now, as evidenced here, but that looks to be getting examined) As far as normality? I can't remember a round in the recent past where I haven't seen MP's tazering near the front lines, using tear gas, etc, all way PAST the FOB.
A miscommunication doesn't lead to the Staff Team calling someone a cuck and insulting their marriage - then sending in a Deathsquad when the players rebel against their shenanigans.
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The cmp does outrank the co is matters of marine law. This has always included rulings on matters of marine law. (I have no issues with that changing.)
The provost even said it could be.
Arresting marines is their job. Defending the fob is not in my opinion.
The insults are also not because of this one incident the ds likely is not either but I cannot say that. It is an issue that has its roots in previous issues some staff members had with you. And in my opinion something that should be dealt with but you should have never seen either. (The leaker could use proper channels and report it to a manager.)
The provost even said it could be.
Arresting marines is their job. Defending the fob is not in my opinion.
The insults are also not because of this one incident the ds likely is not either but I cannot say that. It is an issue that has its roots in previous issues some staff members had with you. And in my opinion something that should be dealt with but you should have never seen either. (The leaker could use proper channels and report it to a manager.)
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Re: Staff Report: Unknown
We are straying way off the initial topic of the report.
Did Aheal happen? No.
What it turns now with back and forth comments is more of Player Report territory
Did Aheal happen? No.
What it turns now with back and forth comments is more of Player Report territory
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Player Report was closed by EmeraldBlood. Both are to be resolved here. The Staff Report was not merely for what I believed to be an Aheal, but the CMP unlawful arrest, Provost unlawful arrest, and the Insults/Death Squad.NethIafins wrote: ↑29 Jun 2018, 10:19We are straying way off the initial topic of the report.
Did Aheal happen? No.
What it turns now with back and forth comments is more of Player Report territory
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Ignore what I said, forgot to read the conclusion on that topic.
Still, discussion is going a bit heated, let's wait for resolution from Managers and/or Rahlzel
Still, discussion is going a bit heated, let's wait for resolution from Managers and/or Rahlzel
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Re: Staff Report: Unknown
Holy shit, are you actually trying to insinuate that I personally insulting your marriage? My lord, this really is grasping at straws.
Its anyone I considered myself friendly to insults, it's the internet.
The same way when I'm insinuating that when Cry is ERPing with pink haired marines rather than moderating,
When I call Freemysoul, Freemymeme implying all he does is meme players never moderate
When I call Heinz a soyboy because I know how much he hates it,
Or really ANYONE who was part of old Charlie Squad, where everyone slated each other ICly and OOCly because it was banter with the boys.
It's how people talk to each other.
I'm not going to moderate how I speak to people I consider my friends or at the very least, friendly too, because one day they may sudden flip their shit and get on their high horse and claim I literally interrupted your honeymoon and pissed on your bedsheets.
If you want to take it out of context and you want to treat it as malicious, go ahead but you're not only doing a disservice to me, or the people around you, you're doing a disservice to yourself.
Anyway, I'll speak with the investigating staff if need be if they wish to expand on anything but unless prompted I won't really be replying or retorting unless its relevant to the investigation or situation.
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I don't like you. We aren't friendly and we don't chat in the slightest. You didn't even know whether or not my marriage had even happened yet (it's in a few weeks) - so don't pretend like we're chum and you know anything about me or you have a right to call me anything - least of all when you're using your position as a member of the staff team to get on a death squad for revenge.solidfury7 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2018, 10:29Holy shit, are you actually trying to insinuate that I personally insulting your marriage? My lord, this really is grasping at straws.
Its anyone I considered myself friendly to insults, it's the internet.
The same way when I'm insinuating that when Cry is ERPing with pink haired marines rather than moderating,
When I call Freemysoul, Freemymeme implying all he does is meme players never moderate
When I call Heinz a soyboy because I know how much he hates it,
Or really ANYONE who was part of old Charlie Squad, where everyone slated each other ICly and OOCly because it was banter with the boys.
It's how people talk to each other.
I'm not going to moderate how I speak to people I consider my friends or at the very least, friendly too, because one day they may sudden flip their shit and get on their high horse and claim I literally interrupted your honeymoon and pissed on your bedsheets.
If you want to take it out of context and you want to treat it as malicious, go ahead but you're not only doing a disservice to me, or the people around you, you're doing a disservice to yourself.
Anyway, I'll speak with the investigating staff if need be if they wish to expand on anything but unless prompted I won't really be replying or retorting unless its relevant to the investigation or situation.
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You didn't seem to mind me saying it in the past, I've said it a lot, pleeeenty of people will be able to attest for it because I've always tended to stick up for you, hell, I even said it in a previous Staff report - 18 Jun 2018, 15:56 on the thread "Staff Report: Solarmare" where I called you a good mate, or even the same day as THIS very report ...but it must have been me playing the long game, seeing this day coming and preparing for this very thread.Symbiosis wrote: ↑29 Jun 2018, 10:36I don't like you. We aren't friendly and we don't chat in the slightest. You didn't even know whether or not my marriage had even happened yet (it's in a few weeks) - so don't pretend like we're chum and you know anything about me or you have a right to call me anything - least of all when you're using your position as a member of the staff team to get on a death squad for revenge.
Sure, we may not talk as much as we used to too, I'm a busy man, I don't expect all my peers and friends to know everything about my life, we come on CM for fun, if Brodan or Pruney want a physical copy of my sexual conquests to add to their ERP fanfic, they just pop on stream
Oh and I didn't really pull any strings , I didn't even ahelp until someguy called "Noah[?]" complained about the marines lynching all the MPs told me to do a few times. I've always been an avocate of what happens, happens, it breeds interesting situations.
But yeah man, even after all this is you ever wanna talk and stuff, I'm still up for it, I've never seen the appeal of v i r t u a l - b a d b l o o d around people, I don't even really think this is about ME persay but more about something else. ANYWAY, I did say I'd avoid replying pending statement but it was an odd reply which I felt compelled to reply to.
I'll wait for management.
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Re: Staff Report: Unknown
Keep on topic guys, Rule 2. discuss your personal relationship elsewhere, not on a public forum.
As you yourself said Symb, it would be best to wait for Rahl to deal with this.
As you yourself said Symb, it would be best to wait for Rahl to deal with this.
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Re: Staff Report: Unknown
Thank you.
Also note that it seems like my summary of the incident in my previous post was inaccurate, so "conspiring" may have been too harsh of a word, but we most certainly have a problem on our side that needs to be rectified. I'm going to leave it with my Managers to decide.
This staff report is concluded.