Player Report: Rex Texas (And other MPs)

[Lorem123]

Do you want anyone who has already posted to state their identity and role again?

[Sir Lordington]

That's not necessary, I'll contact those whose identity is unclear to me via PM.

[FGRSentinel]

This is going to take a while due to the sheer amount of logs and people involved, so try not to clutter this too much with discussion. If you post as a witness, state your identity and role in the whole thing and make your statement as clear and concise as you can to make my job easier.

Thank you.

Regarding me, I was playing Goddard 'Patton' Pearsall. Events that I think may be worth pulling up in the logs, at least regarding things involving me or that I had something to say regarding to make it easier:

Me reminding the CO that the Almayer only had 10 cells and 3 MPs while he was ordering the arrest of roughly 50 people all at once, as well as his response to it. This should have happened around the 12:13-12:15 mark.

Me requesting to see the HC dispatch to confirm the orders were true and not fabricated and the response (or lack thereof) from the Commander.

Timestamp of the CO ordering Alamo and Normandy to not launch, at which point he goes from delaying briefing to completely halting the round altogether.

An incident after the initial CIC shootout where an LT attempted to kill a downed marine with a shotgun. That one should be easy to find since I took a buckshot round to the chest to stop it, but it establishes the Pro-CO side in the mutiny was trying to permakill people.

Within about 3-4 minutes of the above should be the claim from a Charlie medic that the MPs were arresting them while they were treating wounded and me demanding answers from the CMP over command frequency. CMP failed to comment I believe.

The CO's stance on BEing the CIC staff. I think just after he said that I shouted something along the lines of "the CO's going to BE all SOs" on comms, so that may help find it.

Various attempts to get the CMP to explain the reports of brutality against mutineers that turned themselves in.

A direct, in person attempt to get the CMP to fax HC regarding the situation to get an official resolution. This should be punctuated by the Commander ordering me back to the CIC and Rex threatening me with insub (taser out before even saying the charge) if I didn't do so immediately. I'm not sure if the logs will show it, but he didn't put the taser away after I said I'd be in CIC after I spoke with the CMP. I was forced to leave as the CMP never responded even though they were within earshot of me saying this.

The grenade that went off in the brig. I don't remember who got blown up, but there were reports of a grenade going off and that Rex set it off.

If applicable, the point where bans were threatened in a staff announcement to have an exact timestamp of when this happened relative to the death the CO and permakilling of two MPs.

At least one instance of Yumi calling for the murder of MPs to indicate that the arrest was valid for the record.

Alan Jones tasing the aCO and an SO on the bridge to steal the CO's ID. This should be an easy one to find in all fairness since it was mentioned shortly after.

That, I feel, is a list of the important events and the most contested ones that I recall.

[RobBrown4PM]

You know I was the CMP.

My statement has ready been posted, however, I would like to see the logs pertaining to the accusations against me of

- grief
- allowing the MP's under me to murder people
- harm batoning a straight jacketed prisoner
- me clarifying with command about Jones charges and order for arrest, and then announcing over to arrest him
- me getting shot and out into crit by a charlie squad member while using non lethal force
- me getting shot and out into crit in the brig by the person killed the commander, while using non-lethal force
- The whole situation with Yumi, her coming into the brig, threatening me with physical harm and then shooting me.

I want the last 3 to show how much of a shit show it was for me, and how I did my best with the least force possible to detain the individuals whole they fired at me with lethal force.

[Musely]

A direct, in person attempt to get the CMP to fax HC regarding the situation to get an official resolution. This should be punctuated by the Commander ordering me back to the CIC and Rex threatening me with insub (taser out before even saying the charge) if I didn't do so immediately. I'm not sure if the logs will show it, but he didn't put the taser away after I said I'd be in CIC after I spoke with the CMP. I was forced to leave as the CMP never responded even though they were within earshot of me saying this.

You keep mentioning this and it's inaccurate to the best of my recollection. I came in when you were being told to return to your desk. I asked the CMP if you wanted me to deal with you or something to that effect, pulled a baton out for 5-10 seconds and then put it away again after it was clear the CMP didn't want anything done. Then you left. I'm sure the logs will clear this up.

[FGRSentinel]

You know I was the CMP.

My statement has ready been posted, however, I would like to see the logs pertaining to the accusations against me of

- grief
- allowing the MP's under me to murder people
- me clarifying with command about Jones charges and order for arrest, and then announcing over to arrest him
- The whole situation with Yumi, her coming into the brig, threatening me with physical harm and then shooting me.

The reason I suggested logs of Yumi ordering marines to kill MPs is because it's something that I feel needs to be addressed as much as you. I'm willing to admit I may have missed your response to Jones' actions, while I doubt you allowed them to kill anyone. The only one I can think of that might be true in your case is that you either missed or ignored multiple opportunities to deescalate the situation, including vocal concerns that the initial shotgun ban would end in a mutiny and an in-person request for you to send a fax to HC regarding the situation, so honestly if I could I'd like to say for the record that in your case I agree with you. It was a very stressful round and you had far too much nonsense to deal with, but you tried to deescalate once you could and it actually helped the situation that you did so, even if it was a bit too late.

You keep mentioning this and it's inaccurate to the best of my recollection. I came in when you were being told to return to your desk. I asked the CMP if you wanted me to deal with you or something to that effect, pulled a baton out for 5-10 seconds and then put it away again after it was clear the CMP didn't want anything done. Then you left. I'm sure the logs will clear this up.

I think I responded with something along the lines of "I'm not disobeying orders. I just would like to request the CMP sends a message to HC regarding the situation and to report the CO's actions. That's all." If there was a response from you, I don't remember it, but I recall a taser still being out as I walked out the door.

[Chaznoodles]

You keep mentioning this and it's inaccurate to the best of my recollection. I came in when you were being told to return to your desk. I asked the CMP if you wanted me to deal with you or something to that effect, pulled a baton out for 5-10 seconds and then put it away again after it was clear the CMP didn't want anything done. Then you left. I'm sure the logs will clear this up.

This incident took place in the Brig by the perma cells, so you've got around five Charlie witnesses - I know that myself, Johnson and Sal had our shutters open so observed it, unsure about Blackburn in the cell above. Pearsall came down and asked the CMP to fax about the issue to HighCom. The Commander was present and kept ordering Pearsall to go back to the Brig, to which he replied he was just down to ask the CMP this. Texas got extremely threatening, shouting about insubordination, and pulled weapons in an attempt to intimidate Pearsall.

[Nickvr628]

I was the LT SO who fired the shotgun at the charlie marine. The charlie marine was firing on one of the Bravos that was there and had downed him, so I returned fire and critted him. I do remember accidentally shooting someone else from being intent-shuffled, FF happens sometimes, but I don't remember intentionally firing on an already downed marine. Maybe you saw him get stunned from a slug and then get shot again?

After that was the point when Rex Texas batoned a medic trying to revive the Bravo SL and I tried to tell Rex to leave him alone, but to no avail.

[FGRSentinel]

That may be it. I know that an LT shotgunned a charlie and I intentionally stepped between them to break up the fight.

[Chaznoodles]

There was also an instance where a Charlie marine was dragging our critical smartgunner to Medbay, and a SO - I believe Bravo's - followed them and tried to unload their pistol into the downed smartgunner. That'd need verification though as I didn't see it, only heard it from the guy doing the dragging.

[Kineem]

I play Chance Warden. I don't remember much of that round and not much of it was important to me anyway aside from the hilarious shotgun pumping in briefing, the forever-locked shutters between briefing and medbay, the super delayed launch time and the total groundside stomp. Also watching "fun sized" Yumi Shibanuma calmly say "Kill all MPs." over comms then watching her subsequently get arrested and question why she couldn't shoulderbash or headbutt the windows in LOOC. I was an Alpha(?) squad marine who got deployed planetside. I would like to point out that Command didn't actually give in to the protests and send the marines down; rather, an SL decided to take matters into his own hands when the PO and Command refused to send the dropship by 12:40+, so he ran over to the dropship console and sent it down himself. I believe he disarmed the PO to walk past him and get it sent. It seems this happened right after Charlie SO told them to come to CIC because they didn't drop with us.

[FGRSentinel]

The mutiny was in full swing at that point and, if not for the fact we couldn't actually kill the CO without a rule break, it most likely would have ended in about two minutes. Pulling up the logs to get the timestamps of when the ahelp was made to inform the start of the mutiny up and the CO's death should give the exact timeframe of this mutiny. Unofficially, the mutiny was 100% successful before the first shots were even fired. Officially, it dragged on for most of the round because the CO refused to accept he was basically removed from command, the MPs were out to cause as much trouble as possible, and the poor CMP was so busy he didn't notice me accuse the CO of Neglect of Duty and treason against HC over Command comms maybe 5-10 minutes prior to the CO dying.

[Mattmaster77]

Since this was a report more so on the MPs of the round and Rex, I'm going to put in what I saw. I was a witness to Rex's behavior, and played Carl Winston an Alpha SL during the round, though I had no role in the mutiny whatsoever. I did witness Rex flashbang the entire Alamo; three whole squads, who weren't doing anything to obstruct the arrest he was going to make at the moment besides not being on help intent (excluding charlie for obvious reasons), to arrest one single marine (to show where he was, he was where the MG hardpoint was and the marine he was going to arrest was right next to the right side door). My guess was he used the flashbang was to get everyone out of the way and get the marine. Obviously, this backfires as the marine who got arrested gets dragged away as everyone else gets up by another charlie and Rex gets disarmed as he tries to grab the marine back; baton and flash were removed as he pulled them out in front of 3 or so marines disarming him. He eventually gets off the shuttle without the marine. Rex isn't fit to be a MP as he wouldn't have provoked all of the marines to turn against him if he just went around, I feel he should at least get a jobban from the MP roles or a very serious warning about his behavior.

[Lorem123]

The report is on the MPs as well as the CO. I don't want to clog the forum with making 3-5 reports, so I just put it all in here.

[Musely]

Since this was a report more so on the MPs of the round and Rex, I'm going to put in what I saw. I was a witness to Rex's behavior, and played Carl Winston an Alpha SL during the round, though I had no role in the mutiny whatsoever. I did witness Rex flashbang the entire Alamo; three whole squads, who weren't doing anything to obstruct the arrest he was going to make at the moment besides not being on help intent (excluding charlie for obvious reasons), to arrest one single marine (to show where he was, he was where the MG hardpoint was and the marine he was going to arrest was right next to the right side door). My guess was he used the flashbang was to get everyone out of the way and get the marine. Obviously, this backfires as the marine who got arrested gets dragged away as everyone else gets up by another charlie and Rex gets disarmed as he tries to grab the marine back; baton and flash were removed as he pulled them out in front of 3 or so marines disarming him. He eventually gets off the shuttle without the marine. Rex isn't fit to be a MP as he wouldn't have provoked all of the marines to turn against him if he just went around, I feel he should at least get a jobban from the MP roles or a very serious warning about his behavior.

Yeah I stunned myself with that flashbang too lol. They were being used pretty liberally that round, though that one on the DS was my one and only. Don't think I could get out of the DS to chase my perp so just flashbanged plus the DS wasn't going anywhere because the CO didn't want it deploying until the shotguns were cleared out. Think I did arrest one guy for interfering outside.

[FGRSentinel]

Flashbangs weren't just "liberally used," the MPs carpet-bombed briefing with at least 8 of them them before anything even happened. Everything the MPs did pre-mutiny was just excessive crowd control that seemed to serve no purpose other than attempting to start a riot.

[Sir Lordington]

We have plenty of witness statements and this is starting to veer into off-topic discussions so I'm locking this until I can make sense of all these logs. If you haven't posted your witness statement prior to this, feel free to PM me.

[Emeraldblood]

Alright, first off, CO aren't allowed to ban standard issue items like shotguns, SMGs, and so on. It's already been shown by multiple runs that these only cause problems. Now for the CO in question, I talked to them and they've been warned not to do this in the future. While I'm not going after all the MP for following the CO's orders, Rex Texas has been receiving many MP related notes and is getting a job-ban from MP/CMP for the time being. They're free to appeal this in the future. For more information regarding this kind of "CO round gimmick" check the CM Discord Announcements.