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Aaron Patel

Post by TheLion1675 » 08 Aug 2018, 14:43

Your Byond Key: TheLion1675

Your Character Name: Melissa Trelawney

Accused Byond Key(if known): Unknown

Character Name: Aaron Patel

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 11:58 a.m.

What rule(s) were broken: 3, 4 (?) and possibly 19.

Description of the incident:
As PO, which I had joined the round 7 minutes post-start, I found the Normandy PO - Aaron Patel - SSD outside the ship. I brought him into the bubble and left him there, without cryo'ing him at that time since I had to finish prepping the Normandy.
Aaron came back give or take 15-20 minutes later, and decided to argue me about who called dibs first. I tried explaining to him that he went SSD, so I took command of the Normandy.

He proceeded to deploy the Normandy on transport, deploying it to the planet, which allowed Runners to flood the ship, and he shot me twice in the hand, removing my hand. He then tried to run out but got ganked as well. He didn't even show remorse once in deadchat.

It's worth noting present staff didn't handle my ahelps.

As an additional note, Aaron's behavior caused an MP, and countless of Almayer staff to die, and caused medevac and CAS to become literally defunct for a long time.

In short, he fucked up the round for the Marines majorly, if they didn't win.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
http://prntscr.com/kgaa95
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Post-Edit:
http://prntscr.com/kgac2k (Present staff at the time of my ahelps.)

I'm sure there's more, but it can potentially be found out through logs, since too much happened and my logs couldn't be scrolled up anymore.

How you would punish the accused:
Job ban, or potential server ban for griefing.

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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by Casany » 08 Aug 2018, 15:07

Was commander, can confirm. They were both a bit childish but it basically cost us that early game.
"He killed me with a SADAR and it was bullshit. We should ban him for ERP because of how VIOLENTLY HE FUCKED ME" - Biolock, Saturday 15 October 2016

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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by awan » 08 Aug 2018, 16:38

So, first things first.
I am going to say sorry. I missed the ahelps you send and was a shipside role so should have been able to handle them.
That should not have happened.
In general, I like being a mod and handle as many ahelps as I can unless I am queen or involved.

I still hope you do not mind me pulling some logs.
Ahelps send by you
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Ill add more info in a bit.

The more info I will add is the ahelp they send about the situation:
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I am also going to excuse myself from this report and would like another staff member to provide additional logs and such.
Because I have stuck my neck out for this player once before and I am not willing to do so again.
This makes me no longer as unbiased as I want to be.
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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by TheLion1675 » 08 Aug 2018, 19:28

Let me go into this.

What Aaron said in his ahelp was a straight-up lie. He walked up to me, and literally fired two rounds into me. He wasn't trying to fire out the door, he got up with premeditated intent, shot me so I was incapacitated twice or three times (didn't count), then tried to run off, since he said, and I quote: "Might as well go outside and run around until I die alone."

This person is a compulsive liar so as to save his own skin.

I don't have any key witnesses to this, so I can only give my word that this is how it happened.

What's important to note as far as determining this situation goes; he never called for help over the radio, nor did he ever say there were aliens. This should be some kind of evidence.

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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by Casany » 08 Aug 2018, 23:07

There aren’t any comms of this event, I woulda known as the commander here. All I know is that both of you were being pretty childish and immature, to the point where I was just so tired of the constant fucking bickering.

Patel is in the wrong IMO, when you go SSD of course someone’s gonna take over your position if it’s vital so that the mission can be complete, but just as well Melissa could have easily just ran the Alamo instead since we didn’t have a PO there.

From my point of view, it was a petty argument that got out of hand and caused multiple shipside personnel and ground side personnel to die, and I don’t think it should go unpunished. Honestly think both players here should be warned. As POs you can’t be so fucking childish, they’re one of the most important roles out there. And in doing so they inadvertently ended multiple peoples rounds because of a selfish argument between the both of them.
"He killed me with a SADAR and it was bullshit. We should ban him for ERP because of how VIOLENTLY HE FUCKED ME" - Biolock, Saturday 15 October 2016

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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by TheLion1675 » 09 Aug 2018, 10:54

Casany wrote:
08 Aug 2018, 23:07
There aren’t any comms of this event, I woulda known as the commander here. All I know is that both of you were being pretty childish and immature, to the point where I was just so tired of the constant fucking bickering.

Patel is in the wrong IMO, when you go SSD of course someone’s gonna take over your position if it’s vital so that the mission can be complete, but just as well Melissa could have easily just ran the Alamo instead since we didn’t have a PO there.

From my point of view, it was a petty argument that got out of hand and caused multiple shipside personnel and ground side personnel to die, and I don’t think it should go unpunished. Honestly think both players here should be warned. As POs you can’t be so fucking childish, they’re one of the most important roles out there. And in doing so they inadvertently ended multiple peoples rounds because of a selfish argument between the both of them.
Let me go into this, as I feel the need that I'm not in any way responsible here.

What else do you do when you asked the CO and MP's to assist, but neither did? You try to argue so one of them goes looking at some point. Futile attempt, it may have been.

Aaron ahelped and then immediately shot me, which I don't think the admins appreciate in any case.

If Aaron tried to mutiny (which is retarded), it was also invalid, since he was all alone.

Keep in mind that you've been less than helpful as well, Casany. I'm not pointing fingers, but dispatching your XO (who's meant to be fixing most of these ship-side issues par the usual) would've been less than a minute's work. You can play the blame game all you want.

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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by x31stOverlord » 09 Aug 2018, 11:56

I'll be pulling logs for this in a short while.
Yautja - Zathar-Veraz Wolfgang Schneider - CO, CL, SO, XO, Synthetic Unit Joshua Roscoe Barrett - Spec, SGCMP, MP Ancient Empress, Ancient Runner (69)
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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by Casany » 09 Aug 2018, 16:30

TheLion1675 wrote:
09 Aug 2018, 10:54
Let me go into this, as I feel the need that I'm not in any way responsible here.

What else do you do when you asked the CO and MP's to assist, but neither did? You try to argue so one of them goes looking at some point. Futile attempt, it may have been.

Aaron ahelped and then immediately shot me, which I don't think the admins appreciate in any case.

If Aaron tried to mutiny (which is retarded), it was also invalid, since he was all alone.

Keep in mind that you've been less than helpful as well, Casany. I'm not pointing fingers, but dispatching your XO (who's meant to be fixing most of these ship-side issues par the usual) would've been less than a minute's work. You can play the blame game all you want.
I did tho. I went down to the Brig and grabbed the ONLY MP while they were watching the prisoners, and told them to go and arrest you both. But he had to wait, so I let him handle it.

You don’t see what’s going on in the background, I tried to handle it but you were too impatient and childish.
"He killed me with a SADAR and it was bullshit. We should ban him for ERP because of how VIOLENTLY HE FUCKED ME" - Biolock, Saturday 15 October 2016

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"To quote Suits A cop follows a car long enough, he's gonna find a busted tail light. And even if he doesn't, he's gonna bust it himself." - Awan on being an MP

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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by TheLion1675 » 09 Aug 2018, 17:38

Casany wrote:
09 Aug 2018, 16:30
I did tho. I went down to the Brig and grabbed the ONLY MP while they were watching the prisoners, and told them to go and arrest you both. But he had to wait, so I let him handle it.

You don’t see what’s going on in the background, I tried to handle it but you were too impatient and childish.
You don’t see what’s going on in the background, I tried to handle it but you were too impatient and childish.
This part in particular is very funny. I can't be considered impatient and childish if I had no doing in the departure of the Normandy to the planet if my co-pilot decided to go that route to be an annoying wad.

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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by x31stOverlord » 09 Aug 2018, 17:50

Logs:

Aaron waking up and subsequent logout/dc:

[11:19:23]SAY: Aaron Patel/Wowmark : Taking Normandy.
[11:20:08]SAY: Aaron Patel/Wowmark : PO, hi.
[11:20:11]SAY: Aaron Patel/Wowmark : I'm taking Normandy.
[11:23:47]ACCESS: Logout: Wowmark/(Aaron Patel)

Your login and initial actions:
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Main interactions:
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Where combat logs start being generated - On the planet
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Yautja - Zathar-Veraz Wolfgang Schneider - CO, CL, SO, XO, Synthetic Unit Joshua Roscoe Barrett - Spec, SGCMP, MP Ancient Empress, Ancient Runner (69)
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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by x31stOverlord » 09 Aug 2018, 17:56

Alright, in my opinion, whilst the situation could have been handled better ICly, the point of matter is the actions taken by Wowmark.

Given the short timeframe between when he shot you and when the Xenos started slashing makes it very believable that they were already on the ship and he -may- have been trying to shoot them.

However, given that he admitted that he was just doing everything possible to annoy you to get you to give him back the ship that he claimed "dibs" on is just evident of his attitude and behaviour of well, childish really, after DCing/logging out a few minutes into the round to then come back twenty minutes later and expect to be given control of a dropship is a little farfetched in my mind, to then decide instead of working together he was going to just annoy you and launch the dropship repeatedly on transport runs is just... Beyond ridiculous.

My opinion is that he should be job banned from PO as he has shown blatant disregard for other players and has shown a selfish and childlike manner to the point where it affected not only the other pilots round by getting them killed, but also the MPs, engineers, doctors and reqs staff that also died due to the xenos getting onboard the Almayer.
Yautja - Zathar-Veraz Wolfgang Schneider - CO, CL, SO, XO, Synthetic Unit Joshua Roscoe Barrett - Spec, SGCMP, MP Ancient Empress, Ancient Runner (69)
https://i.imgur.com/8NP5Mbl.png

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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by TR-BlackDragon » 20 Aug 2018, 11:01

im in agreement with Overlord. The simple fact that he also stated he would shoot thelion as well. would indicate that he could have planned on shooting them as well and just used the xenos as a cover up for his intentions.

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Re: Aaron Patel

Post by Imperator_Titan » 21 Aug 2018, 14:49

Player will be receiving a PO jobban. It's one thing to have an IC disagreement, it's another to escalate it to the point that it affects other players who aren't even involved and to be a dick just for the sake of being a dick. He shouldn't have sent down the normandy over such a minor thing, which caused all of this to happen in the first place and the death of countless shipside crew, since some xenomorphs were sent up onboard. The friendly fire being intentional can't be proved as xenomorphs were already onboard by that point.

Resolved - Player will be receiving a PO jobban with the ability to appeal it in 1 month from now.

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