Player Report Warrant Officer Thomas Echard

[Lineman]

This latest Round included Thomas Echard as CMP again where he pursued trying to charge me for sexual assault against Jacquline(how do i spell her name?) Finlay with no evidence, he only dropped it when Jacque Deveraux stepped in and said that there was no evidence of anything. This disrupted the round and caused 3 bravo to not drop including a medic and a SL, and causing me to leave the field early in order to come up to the CIC and talk with the CO and XO about how bullshit it was.

[LaKiller8]

Man, you should make another report if you want since this is a different incident. Until then let me just explain this from my side.

Jacqueline was heard screaming over comms about a ghost dragging her into the south bathrooms. Unfrotunately I got to the scene late, only found her blood. I then go to question her, she keeps changing her story multiple times but mentions you in it. I then RP with her, you are still not under arrest. Yes, I kept her busy with it but that was because she refused to cooperate. If she was REALLY uncomfortable with it I would have released her immediatelly but she played it like she had PTSD and such. You then admitted that you gave her 5 swirlies (assault). You are still not under arrest, you are deployed at this point, your round has not been interrupted. The "sexual assault" charge is just pure RP at this point, I was investigating, asked researchers to talk with Jacqueline, even brought a monkey so she could point at it instead of all. At the end of the round, when you evacuated, you surrendered yourself at the CIC, admitted to assault so my MP got you. Then the CO falsely accepted your appeal (since you were guilty, and I believed you to be a threat to the ship so I refused to free you) I then brought you into a pod safely while dying in a pod myself when I tried to go out. That's pretty much it. Of course, OOCly I know you cannot commit such a crime but my IC character wouldn't know it. You seem to have a problem with me RPing a role a lot.

[Lineman]

Man, you should make another report if you want since this is a different incident. Until then let me just explain this from my side.

The thing about this report is that it, in my opinion, isn't all about the incident its about all the bullshit you do on rounds as CMP, and you mention thinking that you thought it was rape, let me ask you a question, who would see blood in the bathroom and immedietly jump to 'oh my god this guy raped that women' instead of thinking oh he might have just stabbed or punched her. And you did ruin my round as all round you kept accusing me of sexual assault and kept talking about how you would have me executed and then others joined in on it, did you even think about how i would feel having been accused of sexual assault? Let me tell you that it felt horrible. And then setting aside how i felt you were pushing for SA when you 1. had no evidence and didn't even listen to me when i had admitted to doing assault. 2. Ruined the round for me by making me wonder if i'll get executed. Multiple people called you out for being a dick about the situation.

[LaKiller8]

Man, it sounds like you have a deep, personal problem with me. Perhaps if you didn't swirlies Jacqueline 5 times, then admit to it, you would have never been arrested. Try not breaking the law next time if you can't deal with the consequences. If Jacqueline for RP reasons refused to tell me the truth I could only wonder why and what happened there. I RP'd my position well, including having two researchers evaluate her, give her medicine to attempt to treat her "PTSD". I had 4 other MPs solving other crimes in case you decide to bring up NOD again. Please note you were not arrested until you surrendered yourself and for a valid crime you did commit. I just said if sexual assault was proven that you would be executed, which is a perfectly valid punishment.

[ZeBluez]

So here we go, Im Jacqueline Finlay, I was the Squad Leader that round that pretended to avoid Lineman the whole time as acted as if he wasn't there. Then I acted as if a ghost was dragging me till I was in the bathroom and screamed that a ghost was dragging me, as I was still pretending that Lineman wasn't there (even though he was the person I just called the ghost). I was with CMP Echard for long enough to have a long talk about many things. I never told the truth what happened, but till you said the truth, it was time for the charges of the crimes to be set. And as I was near CMP Echard at the time, he said you were to be arrested for "assault, max time". So no there wasn't any sexual assault going on, but there was just assault that you did get arrested for. I do not see a problem with any of this. And I may also say, I think my SL round was all ICly, sucks I didn't get to be on groundside as much, but when crime happens, investigations must start.

[Lineman]

So here we go, Im Jacqueline Finlay, I was the Squad Leader that round that pretended to avoid Lineman the whole time as acted as if he wasn't there. Then I acted as if a ghost was dragging me till I was in the bathroom and screamed that a ghost was dragging me, as I was still pretending that Lineman wasn't there (even though he was the person I just called the ghost). I was with CMP Echard for long enough to have a long talk about many things. I never told the truth what happened, but till you said the truth, it was time for the charges of the crimes to be set. And as I was near CMP Echard at the time, he said you were to be arrested for "assault, max time". So no there wasn't any sexual assault going on, but there was just assault that you did get arrested for. I do not see a problem with any of this. And I may also say, I think my SL round was all ICly, sucks I didn't get to be on groundside as much, but when crime happens, investigations must start.

Finlay you didn't have access to the medical channel so you don't know how many times i was accused of sexual assault and how many times they said they would execute me.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

This latest Round included Thomas Echard as CMP again where he pursued trying to charge me for sexual assault against Jacquline(how do i spell her name?) Finlay with no evidence, he only dropped it when Jacque Deveraux stepped in and said that there was no evidence of anything. This disrupted the round and caused 3 bravo to not drop including a medic and a SL, and causing me to leave the field early in order to come up to the CIC and talk with the CO and XO about how bullshit it was.

Make another report if you experienced another issue with this player that does not involve this situation.

[Vispain]

Character Witness: Recently, around the time I started going XO, I started to notice these made up additional claims of sexual assault that are usually added in on a crewmember or marine's already added assault charge. As a former MP main myself, I can tell you I never once used a Sexual Assault charge as to do so means it would likely be a AHELP situation. In fact, there is only two situations where I had to deal with ANYTHING sexual based and that was AHELPED and the marine slept each time while moderators inquired.

Now, Why am I a character witness? Well, I'm Jacque Devereaux and believe, as I was mentioned, I should bring this up. As mentioned this issue truly started around when I started to get back in Command roles. What I noticed from those Command rounds as XO and SO, ghosting, and even SL was that Echard has continuously made up Sexual Assault Charges. I like Echard but the Sexual Assault charges for "RP" and the amount of these I've seen him continuously make up is frankly disturbing, especially as someone who knows marine law and used to be a common MP.


In fact, in almost every SO or XO round I've gone I've had a situation where someone got "Sexually Assaulted." Often the reasoning is: "The person got hugged and it was not consensual." If anything, personally, I'd like to stop seeing MPs make up charges with little to no evidence for crimes that are supposed to be serious and actually not used at all because they are AHELP and OOC issues. That's all I have to say.

[LaKiller8]

I have literally only done it twice. Once as was already mentioned and another one, where I was a regular MP and Vadim Dmitriev, a doctor and a friend of mine hugged the CMO without consent, which made the CMO unhappy, we had a bit of banter about it but the CMP decided it was to be perma. It was not my decision, I was against it. Please, at least get all your facts right before making such wild accusations. You say it like I do it literally every single round which is blatanly false and logs will show that. No charges were ever made up by me. Alberto was arrested for assault which he committed and Vadim was perma'd by the CMP, not by my own decision.

[Nwd72]

He told me Vadim was mentioned, that sexual assault case was just him jokin', and the CMP takin' it seriously, even when it was said it was a joke. The SG who said the hug was sexual assault, Mona somethin' and Thomas even said they did not want me brigged. I ain't sure why he wanted me to reply to this, but I did, and have put in my side of the story. Delete this if it was not required, I likely won't reply, so if it is urgent, contact me in-game, if you see me, or the such.

[Imperator_Titan]

Player has been spoken to regarding his conduct. While these incidents mentioned were moreso IC issues, especially the first one which was handled quite well by an administrator and their usage of rule 0, this shouldn't become an every-round thing which it has. The next MP/CMP related issue will be dealt with much more severely as the player has been warned.

Resolved - Player has been spoken to regarding his conduct and toning it down.