William Crimson

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 14 Aug 2018, 14:39

Your Byond Key: BillyBoBBizWorth

Your Character Name: Blitz the CMP

Accused Byond Key(if known):

Character Name: William Crimson

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): today, round that just passed.

What rule(s) were broken:

4. No powergaming

19. Act like your given role

Description of the incident:

First off, im not going type out a long winded report for a few reasons :
Hardly ever do these reports actually get anything done.
It seems to more you type or include(effort) in your report, the less that gets done about it or taken seriously.
You have the all the logs at your disposal as a admin

So the brief of this is basically William Crimson took it upon himself to head or help head a whole scenario in getting the removal of the WMP from almost the start of the round, the reasonings he used in a personal sense is he "clamed" i beat him, which never happened and is a pure lie.Petty accusations.False accusations.

This player went out of his way to pretty much assume a type of role and duties expected of command staff etc, as a standard alpha marine.Unacceptable.

Ontop of that the reasoning he even tried to use were very petty and half truthes that he tried to use to achieve his obvious end goal.Nothing major that would and probably should warrant such activity, especially of a standard marine.

Thats it, ive got another report to type out so im keeping it as brief as possible, because typing this shit out isnt fun especially when you keep noticing they almost never amount to anything even when its warranted, and ive just spent the whole second half of that round typing out to a admin explaining what he was doing, so im retyping out the same information two or three times...not to mention all the times im going to have to repeat myself once again further into this post.

The admins replies and reaction as usual to my ahelps were not taken seriously and were patronizing.

Ill await him to reply here and i will debate every excuse he used IC to do this right here, right now, and why it was against YOUR rules.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):

How you would punish the accused: Warning at the very least, hes a regular player and should know better.He also has a stack of reports all somewhat recent.Ban for X amount of time at maximum, he plays commander, he should out of alot of people should know what role should be doing what.He and the admins used "RP" as a excuse to allow it, which i see alot and needs to be addressed as well.

Im also half inclined to step this up as a accusation of metabuddying with the CL Thomas Echard, which he has reports running over being CMP, which he was kind of trying to act like this round.And also metabuddying between Gage the admiral that was sent through the observations i made doing them particular periods of that ordeal when i refused to talk IC to disrupt the "RP" excuse that was clearly being used by the players and also admins involved to justify and allow it.

Mizari · Post by **Mizari** » 14 Aug 2018, 15:26

Ok so first of all, I did some log diving for this round in question and withing a matter of seconds I'm already seeing you using homophobic slurs constantly and then going onto do it via dead chat and eventually OOC.

This was all handled IC'ly at the time and its very clear to me that this is nothing but a rage report, You are also not providing any evidence whatsoever of the player in question breaking said rules and you've purposely missed that part out so I'd like for you post your evidence if you have any. I honestly don't think this needs to be addressed as this was handled via IC measures.

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 14 Aug 2018, 15:31

Ahh right, so i was yelling "FAGGOT" etc right at the start of the round and during the middle section was I?

No, i started getting annoyed at the allowance of this by the admins mainly, but also the players.

But yeah, do what you admins usually do and use the end reactions once someone has been pissed off enough(basically the byproduct of a scenario YOU admins have allowed to continue) to depict me as the initial rule breaker, you guys are so fucking good at that arent ya's?

I was told to write a fucking report if i still had a issue, and here it is, you want to claim it as raging FINE. IM REPORTING WHAT HAPPENED THAT ROUND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU WRITE IT OFF AS RAGE OR SALT OR NOT.

IT STILL FUCKING HAPPENED! AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

solidfury7 · Post by **solidfury7** » 14 Aug 2018, 15:33

I'm really not going to waste too much time with this report, as your behaviour was outright appalling that round.

You beat me with a stun baton for not being quick enough to holster my SMG as I proceeded to ask a question regarding marine law (As I really wasn't sure on the law because it's one I normally overlook personally) as I was doing it. (You'll see this from the change in the weapon from the SMG you told me to holster) I was fully co-operating and you decided that you may as well stun me.

Well, I'm afraid that's a non-standard NJP, or you were choosing to stunbaton me for no reason.

I proceeded to hear other complaints from other marines regarding your actions, so I decided to make a minor complaint to the Provost, seeing as you beat me without reason.
So, I write a strongly worded letter, which is signed by two other marines regarding your behaviour. And I speak to some of your MPs.
I eventually speak with the XO, asking for his permission to send the fax and explained the situation, he wasn't pleased with it and outright said you should be demoted for that behaviour.

He signed it and I spoke to one of your officers, I showed them the fax and they escorted me to the CMP office, he proceeded to question me about it.

I was extremely transparent with the Warrant Officer, I even told them the report was about them, they then refused to allow me to send the fax, because I wouldn't personally show them (conflict of interest) even though I had already shown the other MP.

He proceeds to immediately demand I get out of his office, I begin to explain that I have the signature of the commander and permission to send it from him, he proceeds to taser me with 4 seconds, while his OWN MPs protest his behaviour, before dragging me out the office.

I proceeded to adminhelp, because it was a breach of marine law.

Amusingly enough, the corporate liaison JUST send a fax regarding your behaviour on a COMPLETELY different incident regarding you beating Delta squad or something along those lines, I proceeded to go to him to send the fax, he sent it, we chatted, I went to the CIC, informed the XO, he ordered me to follow him, we found you, XO was super busy as it was somewhat low pop CIC, he grabbed you, I cuffed you so you couldn't taser him, as you already disobeyed him and tasered me for it, we brought you to the CIC and awaited the judgement of the Provost,

The situation was dealt with ICly, you received two faxes on you, both signed by the Commander about you breaking marine law and the fact your behaviour was outright unacceptable.

Anyway, the Provost replies, you were demoted pending admirals arrival.

You were then so salty, you proceeded to IC in LOOC, refusing to even SPEAK ICly to the admiral trying to investigate

You began to flame me in LOOC, which is against the rules to the point you did it.

You proceeded to get muted in LOOC you were so toxic, then you proceeded to act like an absolute childish buffoon that I actually felt embarrassed for you.

You tried to beat up an admiral who was literally the most pleasant and lenient admiral I've ever seen, he was Wanda level nice, he did a super deep investigation, calling witnesses, cross referencing them.

And you began to berate him both ICly (Which lets be honest was you spewing out LOOC because you was muted) and in adminhelp.

The admiral ordered us all out the room, except you, obviously trying to de-escalate the situation and your childish behaviour, and you proceeded to punch him over and over again, obviously trying to bait a BE from the admiral

After the round ended, you actually began threatening all people involved with meta-targeting, you literally admitted it in OOC chat in front of everyone,

Your attitude was so disgusting I was actually creating a report against you for your behaviour that round, until I found out this was posted, so yeah.

You broke Rule 1, rule 2, rule 10, rule 9 and rule 14, your behaviour is unacceptable and unwarranted, I'm requesting that after a thorough investigation is done regarding his claims, that my report against his actions be dealt with also.

Edit: Even in this thread you're being condesending. You're really not doing yourself any favours.

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 14 Aug 2018, 15:42

"I'm really not going to waste too much time with this report, as your behaviour was outright appalling that round. "

And how half you admins go about addressing issues is just as appalling.

"You beat me with a stun baton for not being quick enough to holster my SMG as I proceeded to ask a question regarding marine law (As I really wasn't sure on the law because it's one I normally overlook personally) as I was doing it. (You'll see this from the change in the weapon from the SMG you told me to holster) I was fully co-operating and you decided that you may as well stun me."

Dont try to use words like BEAT to make it seem like anything other a simple stunbaton stun, thats all it was.Secondly, is there a rule stating how long you must wait before stunning someone as a CMP/MP? NO. I also gave you 10-15 seconds to respond, you didnt so you were dealt with, simple.Thats not against the rules in any sense, and you know that as a admin.Your bending shit once again.If it is against the rules, give me direct wiki quotes of the rules i broke, otherwise your sentence by sentence explanation is invalid.Show me the rules, come on? I showed you the rules im accusing you of breaking, do me the justice of showing me the ones i have.

"Well, I'm afraid that's a non-standard NJP, or you were choosing to stunbaton me for no reason."

There was a reason, you know the reason, stop acting like you dont know as a marine your not meant to have guns out, because you do, and if you do, I CAN BRIG YOU.

Im not going to give you satisfaction of quote by quote replying to everything because your spouting bullshit word twisting crap like you guys always do.

Going to the intial reason why you were in my sights to begin which is the most important thing, because YOU as a STANDARD marine went right out of your way to write a letter, see the XO, see MP's and all sorts of other things because i simply DIDNT WAIT LONG ENOUGH FOR YOU? I dont care how long you think i should give you, i gave you warning to holster your weapons, you didnt, therefore youve now committed a offence and the rest is known by everyone, anyway you try to bend your words like you weren't worthy of punishment is complete bullshit.

Your a fucking liar too.A lying admin.

Mizari · Post by **Mizari** » 14 Aug 2018, 15:44

What disturbs me more about this situation is your blatant abuse of Marine Law and not following its proceedures. Yes I can understand your frustration that a PFC is doing this but as Solidfury has now explained to you, he's went through the proper channels talking with the XO and other marines before requesting permission to send a fax.

All this was dealt with IC'ly and I think the outcome was more than reasonable but what leaves a sour taste in my mouth is what you proceeded to say in LOOC and OOC and ignoring the investigation IC'ly.

As for the PFC going to the XO and speaking with him and other command members, the marine was quite withing his right since he cant speak to ANYONE else about it since you were the CMP so I believe that was correct in his doing if he felt the need to take it further.

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 14 Aug 2018, 15:47

Mizari wrote: ↑
14 Aug 2018, 15:44
What disturbs me more about this situation is your blatant abuse of Marine Law and not following its proceedures. Yes I can understand your frustration that a PFC is doing this but as Solidfury has now explained to you, he's went through the proper channels talking with the XO and other marines before requesting permission to send a fax.

All this was dealt with IC'ly and I think the outcome was more than reasonable but what leaves a sour taste in my mouth is what you proceeded to say in LOOC and OOC and ignoring the investigation IC'ly.

As for the PFC going to the XO and speaking with him and other command members, the marine was quite withing his right since he cant speak to ANYONE else about it since you were the CMP so I believe that was correct in his doing if he felt the need to take it further.

I happen to have the marine law up whenever im playing CMP, which ive only played around 5-10 rounds as one so far(on this server atleast) and have observed countless WMP rounds to see different styles and tactics etc, but ive read and re-read the wiki and rules over and over trying to do the best i can as a CMP with handful of MP's(usually not listening to orders) against a massive group of marines.

If your so, so sure ive broken rules as a CMP, i insist you actually wiki rule quote them, otherwise your not actually accusing me of anything in a valid sense, so please, quote the rules ive broken.

Why havnt i been pinged by admins stating "err you cant do that"? Im fairly certain and if you actually watch a round when im CMP, i not trying to, want to and most of all, DONT, actually break rules or laws as much as possible and to the best of my abilities, which are getting better over time.Therefore theres no reason to ping me.Otherwise i would of been.

Also i never said, nor believe that a marine cant talk to anyone he wishes, thats not even a fucking apart of this, thats not what im even accusing him of.Im accusing him of acting like a command staff role whilst not being one, do you really not understand that?

Come on.

solidfury7 · Post by **solidfury7** » 14 Aug 2018, 15:57

BillyBoBBizWorth wrote: ↑
14 Aug 2018, 15:42
"I'm really not going to waste too much time with this report, as your behaviour was outright appalling that round. "

And how half you admins go about addressing issues is just as appalling.

"You beat me with a stun baton for not being quick enough to holster my SMG as I proceeded to ask a question regarding marine law (As I really wasn't sure on the law because it's one I normally overlook personally) as I was doing it. (You'll see this from the change in the weapon from the SMG you told me to holster) I was fully co-operating and you decided that you may as well stun me."

Dont try to use words like BEAT to make it seem like anything other a simple stunbaton stun, thats all it was.Secondly, is there a rule stating how long you must wait before stunning someone as a CMP/MP? NO. I also gave you 10-15 seconds to respond, you didnt so you were dealt with, simple.Tats not against the rules in any sense, and you know that as a admin.Your bending shit once again.

"Well, I'm afraid that's a non-standard NJP, or you were choosing to stunbaton me for no reason."

There was a reason, you know the reason, stop acting like you dont know as a marine your not meant to have guns out, because you do, and if you do, I CAN BRIG YOU.

Im not going to give you satisfaction of quotes a replying to everything because your spouting bullshit word twisting crap like you guys always do.

Going to the intial reason why you were in my sights to begin with is the most important thing, because YOU as a STANDARD marine went right out of your way to right a letter, see the XO, see MP's and all sorts of other things because i simply DIDNT WAIT LONG ENOUGH FOR YOU? I dont care how long you think i should give you, i gave you warning to holster your weapons, you didnt, therefore youve now committed a brig and the rest is known by everyone, anyway you try to bend your words like you weren't worthy of punishment is complete bullshit.

Your a fucking liar too.A lying admin.

Because this is the least effort report from someone I've ever seen, your attitude and behaviour is that poor all come to light so I'm really not terribly concerned.

You literally pulled me over after I left prep, literally 9 steps out of prep....as I was making my way to the RO to ask for grenades, during the situation where you gave me "ten" seconds to type a question, a reply and switch my weapons, you even decided to take the full attachmented weapon you saw I was switching. and placing on my back. You make it sound like you did me a favour, by taking a full attachmented weapon, you're using the rules as a crutch, when you outright broke half the bloody rules in the space of TWENTY MINUTES. Hell, even the part where you stunned me is AGAINST ARRESTING PROCEDURES.

Arrest Procedure

Compliant Suspect (not resisting or running)
Verbally inform the suspect you are taking them into custody and the charge.
Order the suspect to the ground.
Handcuff the suspect.
Bring the suspect to the Brig for processing.

Non-Compliant Suspect (resisting or running)
Prepare a non-lethal method of neutralization
Apply until they are no longer resisting
Secure the suspect and Inform the suspect of their charge
Bring the suspect to the brig

Dangerous Suspect (Used lethal weapons against personnel or assets)
During emergencies such as mutinies and boardings or against suspects who have used a lethal weapon against law enforcement or other personnel, the Chief MP or acting Commander may authorize the use of lethal force.
Engage the suspect using lethal force until they are incapacitated - not dead.
Secure the suspect and their weapons and have them given medical aid if possible.
Bring the suspect to the brig, inform them of their charge and process them.

You reread marine law how many times, and missed that? One of the largest sections? Whew,

So, lets add arresting procedures to the list of stuff you broke.

But sure, fail to address everything else dude.

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 14 Aug 2018, 15:59

solidfury7 wrote: ↑
14 Aug 2018, 15:57
Because this is the least effort report from someone I've ever seen, your attitude and behaviour is that poor all come to light so I'm really not terribly concerned.

You literally pulled me over after I left prep, literally 9 steps out of prep....as I was making my way to the RO to ask for grenades, during the situation where you gave me "ten" seconds to type a question, a reply and switch my weapons, you even decided to take the full attachmented weapon you saw I was switching. and placing on my back. You make it sound like you did me a favour, by taking a full attachmented weapon, you're using the rules as a crutch, when you outright broke half the bloody rules in the space of TWENTY MINUTES. Hell, even the part where you stunned me is AGAINST ARRESTING PROCEDURES.

So, lets add arresting procedures to the list of stuff you broke.

But sure, fail to address everything else dude.

Ahh yes, the usual card you guys pull, aww your "attitude", your not my mothers.Im here reporting something where im pretty sure something wrong was done, you TELL people do exactly that in the case of this.

And also trying to pull the effort card is bullshit too, you know as admins these reports are fucking rigged so you hide behind it like a coward, your fucking facade doesnt work on me.

Give me quotes of the ACTUAL RULES i broke, or you can....you guessed it.

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 14 Aug 2018, 16:04

Alright so on the rules apparently i broke you have finally brought to you table, good.

You werent under arrest, i simply wanted you to holster your weapon, you were given a verbal warning and a time limit, you failed to comply.Now your a criminal.

Therefore you can be brigged for that sentence with the appropriate time.

Do you, or dont you agree with that? Because all of that is perfectly legal under your own rules and as far as i understand them, which they arent really that hard to understand.

If not, point out the section thats against the rules or marine law please.

I did that exact process of verbal warning "HOLSTER YOUR WEAPON, YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS" (try to account for them speaking or if its obvious they are putting attachments on, EVEN THOUGH i can still arrest or confiscate for that, your not complying) to about 3-4 marines, YOU were the only one that didnt deploy as normal and went on some command staff type role to fucking get a WMP demoted over something so petty and not even against the marine law, or the rules.So...., why you, why not the other three marines?

Because your a admin arent ya? And your a character well known, arent ya? You thought i can just play command even as a marine, didnt ya? Im not stupid, i saw what you were doing from the start and it doesnt matter how much you try to flick it off and RAGE or SALT, or try to lie about it.You fucking powergamed/metagamed.Because you think you can always get away with it.Your RP excuse doesnt fucking cut it either, you ruined my round basically for YOUR shitty RP scenario you chose to concoct up.Nothing more, nothing less.

Ill also mention that ive been arrested in very similar ways before as a marine, and have seen countless MP's arrest in very similar fashion.It wasnt against the rules back then and it isnt against the rules now either.

NethIafins · Post by **NethIafins** » 14 Aug 2018, 16:07

Calm down everyone. I'll be pulling logs shortly along with my commentaries. Please wait and tone down your arguing.

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 14 Aug 2018, 16:36

solidfury7 wrote: ↑
14 Aug 2018, 15:33
Amusingly enough, the corporate liaison JUST send a fax regarding your behaviour on a COMPLETELY different incident regarding you beating Delta squad or something along those lines, I proceeded to go to him to send the fax, he sent it, we chatted, I went to the CIC, informed the XO, he ordered me to follow him, we found you, XO was super busy as it was somewhat low pop CIC, he grabbed you, I cuffed you so you couldn't taser him, as you already disobeyed him and tasered me for it, we brought you to the CIC and awaited the judgement of the Provost,

Have to pick this specific part out for a few reasons.

Firstly, yeah there was a few issues with delta that was being resolved, there was NO beating of ANYONE, just arrests.None of which is any of your business ingame or any type of issue you should be concerning yourself with anyhow, this just goes to show how early on in the round you decided to not actually be a marine, but create your of custom fucking role.

The CL came to my office, i heard him out, assured him that, yes, some deltas were being arrested, but only marines that actually have committed a crime, i was in the brig doing record changes the MP's THEMSELVES were reporting in when the CL arrived, as well as the arrest record changes of some i personally saw as well.

Like the XO, i was also, super busy, hence why i needed you out of my office ASAP, i even told you that i didnt have time for games in one form or another.Even then, still heard you out to see what you even wanted, more time i should have even given you in the first place.

But anyways, your own post that i got this quote from, really does illustrate how OUT OF YOUR WAY you went to make sure a petty issue, issues you shouldnt even be concerned with as the ROLE YOU CHOSE, into a scenario where a Admiral had to be called.

The CL is just as guilty of this as much as you, however they have a somewhat role in relaying the events to HC, so it makes sense.You running around like a staff officer, MP, or whatever the fuck you thought you were being that round, made no sense what so ever in relation to the role you chose that round, or the role that you rolled and should be acting out.

Not "Ill be whatever role i want, whenever i want".

VortexGaming · Post by **VortexGaming** » 14 Aug 2018, 17:03

Alright, I was there for your ahelp, And you beating the Admiral. I'm not a mod but last time I checked it against the rules for a CMP to breach marine law, and you beating the admiral is a major breach of a said marine law. I'm also not trying to white knight The admin the helped you but the way you treated him was just rude and disrespectful we get you are angry and everything but try and treat things with civility we are just doing the jobs we volunteered to do.

Now you seem to have a major issue with us pointing you what you did wrong in the player report, but we bring up what both sides had to do with fault and I was only a witness for your faults so I cannot contribute to your side in saying if it was right or wrong. I am just pointing out what I saw, not picking sides and not doing anything.

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 14 Aug 2018, 17:20

VortexGaming wrote: ↑
14 Aug 2018, 17:03
Alright, I was there for your ahelp, And you beating the Admiral. I'm not a mod but last time I checked it against the rules for a CMP to breach marine law, and you beating the admiral is a major breach of a said marine law. I'm also not trying to white knight The admin the helped you but the way you treated him was just rude and disrespectful we get you are angry and everything but try and treat things with civility we are just doing the jobs we volunteered to do.

Now you seem to have a major issue with us pointing you what you did wrong in the player report, but we bring up what both sides had to do with fault and I was only a witness for your faults so I cannot contribute to your side in saying if it was right or wrong. I am just pointing out what I saw, not picking sides and not doing anything.

Im so glad you brought this up actually as a reason why i broke the rules because :

I was demoted, and didnt have the rank as WO anymore.On top of that, i had perfectly good IC RP reasoning to be pissed the fuck off with the whole process, and if you look at the type of chatter i was doing at the time, even though i didnt want to, i was RP'ing exactly that which coincides with each other.

I was pretty calm, cool and collected as a CMP for the first half of the round, maybe barking orders in CAPS when i started noticing more activity around the ship, criminal activity.That does not mean i was angry or anything like that, i was just trying to get my MP's to do their jobs, i had to tell them several times to get back to work and patrol etc.It gets repetitive barking the same orders and not seeing anything happen, hence why you switch to CAPS and tell them they will be brigged themselves if they continue to disregard direct orders.

All perfectly normal for someone in a command/leadership type role.

No i pointed out the issue with even making these player reports and the almost patronized way you admins say at the end of a ahelp, "ohh and if you still have a problem, go waste your time over here typing it out".

All the information you need is in the report, its not highly elaborate, but it doesnt need to be, its pointing out the issue in a well enough way without writing a book.

VortexGaming · Post by **VortexGaming** » 14 Aug 2018, 17:37

Again this is my opinion, But the reason why tell you to make player reports is that we can't just punish someone for doing something like this without a long debate. we need to hear both sides and such which is why we say make player reports.

NethIafins · Post by **NethIafins** » 14 Aug 2018, 17:48

DISCLAIMER. Logs are provided impartially and without bias. Parts that were left out shouldn't change the outcome.

First engagement with SolidFury (i.e. William Crimson)

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You went on to arrest/stun other people for having weapons unholstered

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Incident with another marine

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At the same time SolidFury went around to make a In-Character report on behavior he observed:

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As a result SolidFury requested one of SOs to have access to fax machine that WO has:

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You then denied a valid request to use your fax machine:

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SolidFury decided to use CL's fax

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SolidFury and XO are detaining WO:

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Detention and dialog in CIC:

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FOR REFERENCE - your previous ahelp this round:

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Continuation:

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LOOC chat #1:

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[12:07:44]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : right im ahelping this jester, mainly about you not being the standard marine role that you are
[12:07:54]OOC: (LOCAL) William 'Jester' Crimson/SolidFury7 : Sure, ahelp away.
[12:07:54]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : you acting like a commander officer as a standard
[12:08:09]OOC: (LOCAL) William 'Jester' Crimson/SolidFury7 : Marines can send faxes, btw
[12:08:21]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler (as Glenna Muller)/BillyBoBBizWorth : your clearly trying to be the role you usually are, but arent actually in at the moment.
[12:08:34]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : its pretty fucking obvious
[12:08:55]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : yeah no reply to that, have ya?
[12:09:14]OOC: (LOCAL) William 'Jester' Crimson/SolidFury7 : Because I'm RPing, man
[12:09:29]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : because you know its true, just like viktor was metabuddying last round, now your assuming another role, which is not allowed, your not command this round Jester
[12:09:41]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : no your not, your acting like command
[12:09:58]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : your doing the exact things someone would as a commander, but as a standard
[12:10:09]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : its obvious as daylight
[12:10:23]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : just waiting for a admin to reply
[12:11:01]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : hey arsehole, the "meme" CMP, ill fucking say what i want
[12:11:46]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : im not saying jackshit IC as long as this idiot jester is doing this commander bullshit as a standard, you can fuck right off
[12:12:43]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : go on, explain it all jester
[12:13:03]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : i shot him once with a taser because he refused to leave my office
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[12:13:07]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): I'm trying my best to handle this ICly, if you would cooperate. I don't see the need to bring this into OOC territory just yet.
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[12:13:09]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : no beating at all
[12:13:26]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): i think it is with what jester is doing right now
[12:13:37]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : so thats a lie straight away
[12:22:50]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : yeah keep doing your commander act

PM convo with Imperator_Titan (Moderator Manager):

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[12:13:26]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): i think it is with what jester is doing right now
[12:15:26]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): why is jester "RP"ing as a commander type officer and duties as a standard fucking marine is what i want to know? and why its being allowed. Ive done nothing but try and enforce marine law, like i do every round with this character, not act out another role like jester is right now. Ill also not that ive seen other players do this before whhich i have pointed out in LOOC, which was bronte houston acting as a doctors and knowing things he shouldnt. Its not the first time if observed this.
[12:16:29]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): and hes such a regular, he should know this is not really what he should be doing and claming its "RP" doesnt make it right either.
[12:17:13]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): If you were in his position. Would you too not try and at the very least seek some sort of justice?
[12:18:17]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): justice for what? he claimed i "beat" him, that never happened, i tazed him once in my office for not getting out, thats the whole interaction ive had with that player this round, aside from this "im going to do command stuff as a non commander bullshit";
[12:18:49]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): And now, what hes trying to do is RP another player getting BE'd, because of HIS ACTIONS.
[12:18:55]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): NOT mine
[12:20:56]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): this is complete bullshit this is even being allowed to happen and just "play out" IC, this Jester character should be told to act the role he chose or got this round
[12:21:45]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): I dont care if this is for "RP" fun, or Dchat, im not bloody enjoying this, i went SSD for a few minutes and came back to this shit.
[12:22:06]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): And its really starting to annoy me as you can probably tell.SO please, do something about it.
[12:22:58]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): This is the first time I've seen him do it. If it becomes a recurring theme, please do make a player report to investigate it fully. At the time being, it's being left IC to the best of its ability as it's being solved through IC means.
[12:23:41]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): Im probably going to get BE'd for nothing, for simply trying enforce marine law and im not happy with that result.
[12:23:53]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): This is bullshit mate
[12:23:56]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): Don't worry, nobody's being BE'd. CMPs are immune to BEs anyway.
[12:24:26]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): I wouldnt be so sure, alot fo your rules get broken, like right now.So i dont exactly trust that for anything.

LOOC #2 +Mute:

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[12:23:10]OOC: (LOCAL) William 'Jester' Crimson/SolidFury7 : Are you still crying?
[12:23:12]OOC: (LOCAL) William 'Jester' Crimson/SolidFury7 : My lord
[12:25:03]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : XO never personally came to me
[12:25:11]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : only this fuckwit next to me
[12:25:56]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : jester is trying to make a whole scenario play out here, thats all this is, jesters wants something to happen so hes trying to
[12:26:26]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : but sadly he didnt get command role this round, so hes deciding to do it as a non officer, im not fucking stupid
[12:26:44]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : you might find this enjooyable, but im telling you right now, im not, to any degree.
[12:27:35]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : he wasnt transaparent, you wouldnt even tell me the reasons
[12:27:43]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : you are fucking lying cunt jester
[12:27:47]OOC: (LOCAL) Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : you fuck
[12:27:57]ADMIN: imperatortitan/(Gage Baldwin) has muted BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) from OOC
[12:28:08]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): Mind toning down the LOOC salt?
[12:28:40]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): This is the only chance you're getting before being fully muted from OOC temporarily. It's getting obnoxious and I'm not even involved.
[12:28:42]ADMIN: imperatortitan/(Gage Baldwin) has unmuted BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) from OOC
[12:28:56]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): No, you will have to mute me like you did, im not playing ball with this bullshit, i told you. YOu can keep enjoying watching this.IM going to m ake this RP as shit as possible

LOOC #3 +mute

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Next IC chat:

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And awaaay we go:

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Some more IC chat:

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"Final" pm convo:

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[12:56:50]ADMIN: HELP: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): Alright, im logging off for now, so i take it, its fine to just stay topside as a marine and do command staff type duties is it? because thats what im taking from all this. Am i wrong? - heard by 9 non-AFK admins.
[12:58:06]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): Brother, here's some good advice. Chill out, relax and sleep on it and come back tomorrow. You'll feel much better and less enraged at current events. Trust me.
[12:59:40]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): dude im fine, what im not fine with. Is regular players being allowed to disregard the rules for the sake of "RP" So dont tell me to calm down or relax, i am. That doesnt mean i happy about all this, because frankly you allowed a bullshit scenario to play out for enjoyment of others, but I did not enjoy this round at all.
[13:00:00]ADMIN: imperatortitan/(Gage Baldwin) has unmuted BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) from OOC
[13:00:16]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): Your own rules states you must do the role your assigned, not theres.So why do i keep seeing examples of it? WHy?
[13:01:55]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): This is all being left as an IC issue at the moment because that's what it is. Should he have abandoned his duty as a squad marine to report you as a warrant officer during an on-going mission? Depends. Should you have tazed him for refusing to leave your office? Also no. Finally, should you have sent MPs up to the frontlines to arrest a marine? Doubt it. But I'm leaving ALL of this IC because that's how I'm choosing to fix it instead of warning every single person involved and I believe that's the best scenario.
[13:02:03]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): I only try to follow your rules the best i can, i just keep seeing other people breaking them. Usually, them people are regular players that should no better, but it doesnt matter anyways because every time ive reported instances of it, you admins brush it off like nothing happened. What gives?
[13:02:56]ATTACK: imperatortitan/(Gage Baldwin) grabbed BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)
[13:03:07]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): Why cant i taze him to remove him from my office? I ordered him to leave, he didnt, therefore i am allowed to remove him any way i decide, thats YOUR OWN RULES MATE. I can even get a quote of that on your wiki.
[13:03:30]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): He had a good reason to be there though, to fax for your very removal in his eyes. Wouldn't you do the same?
[13:04:10]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): I also, never actually sent the MP's to the front, they did that on their own accord, you dont even know half of what happened the more you talk about it And frankly your fucking bending the rules whne you see fit, thats fucked.
[13:04:48]ATTACK: imperatortitan/(Gage Baldwin) grabbed BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)
[13:04:58]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): STOP USING THAT LIKE ITS A VALID REASON ADMIN, HE IS A STANDARD MARINE AND SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT, NOT TRYING TO FAX LIKE THE CL BECAUSE I TAZED HIM ONCE!! GET REAL
[13:05:18]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): shouldnt i meant
[13:06:42]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): i keep seeing this with you guys, not the subjective rules, but even the DIRECT rules you fucking bend whenever you like, because maybe it might be good "RP' Well by you doing that, potentionally ruined others rounds, like mine right now.
[13:07:19]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): I ask you again. Should I go around warning every single person involved, yourself included? Or should I choose to resolve this through IC means as I'm attempting now?
[13:07:28]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): Its not fair and its not right. Stop allowing my rounds to be fucked for RP of others, if otheres want to do that kind of RP, fine. But i dont.
[13:07:51]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): No i want this investigated, you know what im accusing jester of, and you know my side of the story.
[13:08:10]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): I wanted it looked at in a serious sense from the start, i wanted joking around admin.
[13:08:50]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): OBviously you thought i was joking some, but im not and i dont know how you could even think i wasnt being serious. Almost fucking patronizing me.

After you ghosted:

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NethIafins · Post by **NethIafins** » 14 Aug 2018, 17:50

unless you have something to bring up as direct witness or have issues with logs (or you are staff member that is DEALING with the case) do not post

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 14 Aug 2018, 18:49

"Incident with another marine "

I love how with that third section of the log you failed to show the part literally right before that where the marine was stabbing my MP to death over a attempting to arrest for a crime they committed, to which i stunned multiple times and ordered them to be sent straight to perma.

Good work there.

Another case of a "sound of mind marine" type roleplaying your trying to achieve, isnt it?

Also like to note how incredibly placid i was with Jester, even whilst being blunt and to the point when he got into the brig and into my office, even when i told a MP to remove him, i let him stay and still get his comments out in the open.

EVEN after he directly states the complaint is infact about me, to which if he wasnt going to be secretive about the details, i wanted to actually hear what criticisms he had if it didnt take all day and might have allowed him to to send it anyhow, testing my luck with HC because i knew i had done nothing wrong.He didnt want to mention them details, i have other shit to do, so i said DENIED and wanted him gone, he was distracting me from real issues.

Not issues he knew nothing about, or how he personally felt about his interactions with the MP's or me over petty "crimes" he thought had occurred.

"[11:34:28]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Regarding?
[11:34:34]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Come on marine dont fuck around
[11:34:37]SAY: William 'Jester' Crimson/SolidFury7 : You, specifically Warrant Officer.
[11:34:39]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Just spill it
[11:34:46]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Roger, what are the reasons
[11:34:54]SAY: William 'Jester' Crimson/SolidFury7 : That is confedential, Warrant Officer.
[11:35:01]SAY: William 'Jester' Crimson/SolidFury7 : I have permission from the Lieutenant Commander.
[11:35:07]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Your denied
[11:35:11]SAY: William 'Jester' Crimson/SolidFury7 : I see.
[11:35:12]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Get the fuck out of my office"

NethIafins · Post by **NethIafins** » 14 Aug 2018, 18:52

BillyBoBBizWorth wrote: ↑
14 Aug 2018, 18:49
"Incident with another marine "

I love how with that third section of the log you failed to show the part literally right before that where the marine was stabbing my MP to death over a attempting to arrest for a crime they committed, to which i stunned multiple times and ordered them to be sent straight to perma.

Good work there.

Logs show no such thing

Correction. Located. Marine started stabbing after they were stunned for no reason by MPs. Adding to logs

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 14 Aug 2018, 18:57

NethIafins wrote: ↑
14 Aug 2018, 18:52
Logs show no such thing

Correction. Located. Marine started stabbing after they were stunned for no reason by MPs. Adding to logs

Pfft, get on the ball.I told you, im not hear to lie to you, you tell me ingame to report, im here to report everything to the best i can remember and honestly.

If im going to invest all this energy into reporting something i truly think is against the rules, im taking it seriously, very seriously.I hope you understand that.

"[11:47:39]ATTACK: SolidFury7/(William 'Jester' Crimson) attempted to handcuff BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)"

But wait? You didnt roll MP that round did you Jester? But your sure acting like one, arent ya? And handcuffed whilst i was SSD for about 10 minutes. Thats greeeeat RP, isnt it? You must of really enjoyed that part.Very exciting.

"You then denied a valid request to use your fax machine: "

And how exactly is it valid, youve got a fucking marine going around like hes the CMP himself almost, i hadnt committed any break of marine law before hand or after, so how the fuck was it valid? Also, where does it specifically say that I, as a CMP are required to let ANYONE use the brig fax machine, let alone a standard marine, show me? The XO also is the same rank as the CMP, and considering the FAX was about MARINE LAW that i apparently broke, its my issue and can deny anyone using it, even the CO if its regarding MARINE LAW.Who handles MARINE LAW, the CMP does, doesnt he?

"[11:35:49]SAY: William 'Jester' Crimson/SolidFury7 : WO IS TASERING ME FOR THE FAX"

Constant fucking lies, by a constantly lying admin, i bet your a great liar OOC arent ya?

"After you ghosted: "

Yeah thats a good way of making it look like i ghosted the CMP role itself doesnt it? I was EVAC'd by Gage himself and entered a hypersleeper, but good try there.

"[12:17:13]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): If you were in his position. Would you too not try and at the very least seek some sort of justice?"

AHHH thats makes so much sense, the admin doing my AHELP was the Admiral in the first place, that explains why you never actually tried to answer any of my issues that was happening right at the moment and instead tried to fucking flick it around onto me asking whether its justified or not regarding a scenario you didnt know obviously all that much about until later on.You thought i was joking or something did ya?

This couldnt be anymore bias.

You were supporting a standard rolled marine act out a RP scenario like he was some ranked officer and to the WMP of all people, why exactly?

Because hes your buddy OOC right?

"[12:23:56]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): Don't worry, nobody's being BE'd. CMPs are immune to BEs anyway.
[12:24:26]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin): I wouldnt be so sure, alot fo your rules get broken, like right now.So i dont exactly trust that for anything."

You assure me that something wont happen because of "rules" lol, all whilst your "rules are being broken right then and there, HAHAHHAHAH! You funny man.

"[12:38:27]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): I feel your frustration. It's okay brother."

I dont know about others, but that really felt patronizing to me, it really did.

"[12:49:37]SAY: Gage Baldwin/imperatortitan : My disappointment is immeasurable."

Good, im glad.

Id also like to note that use of the word "faggot" is being used in the same kind of way as i see "nigga" being used in game in a friendly sense, its not being used as anything but a insult word like calling someone a dickslash, so dont even try to use the foul language bullshit on me, because you allow the word nigga, so there should be no issue with the word faggot either used in that context.

"[12:56:50]ADMIN: HELP: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): Alright, im logging off for now, so i take it, its fine to just stay topside as a marine and do command staff type duties is it? because thats what im taking from all this. Am i wrong? - heard by 9 non-AFK admins.
[12:58:06]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): Brother, here's some good advice. Chill out, relax and sleep on it and come back tomorrow. You'll feel much better and less enraged at current events. Trust me."

Really patronized response, once again.You dont even attempt to answer half the questions i have, considering the effort im putting in the ask you them in the first place, the replies are either non existant, patronizing as fuck or just not even relevant or based on facts that have even happened in the round half the time.

Its disgusting just as much as my behavior may be viewed by others, but it wasnt my initial behavior, your refusal to do anything or not atleast not treat it like a joke, got me irritated.Thats what happens when people dont listen.

[13:03:30]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Gage Baldwin)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): He had a good reason to be there though, to fax for your very removal in his eyes. Wouldn't you do the same?

Again, trying to justify it by turning it into a moral type question back at me.So, in HIS EYES, AS A STANDARD MARINE, or lets say ANY standard marine, can just sit around topside trying to pull shit like this and be classed "of sound mind", why the fuck does a marine invest so much energy and interest into a department hes not even a fucking apart of? They DONT, and THEY SHOULDNT BE EITHER.

On all that last section of dialog which was in end of round OOC, there was some players trying to justify something they werent apart of, knew nothing about for the most part and probably have never played MP/CMP on this particular server, so i took it all with a grain of salt and just assured them i would be trying to go CMP the next round.Most of you act likes clowns in OOC, let alone IC anyhow.

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 15 Aug 2018, 03:04

"You went on to arrest/stun other people for having weapons unholstered"

Thats right, i was doing my job.

[11:03:53]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : HOLSTER RIGHT NOW
[11:03:55]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : 10 ASECONDS
[11:03:57]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : OR ITS MINE
[11:04:04]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : FLINT
[11:04:12]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Good man // successful holstering of weapon, marine listened.Moving on.
[11:04:21]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : HOLSTER RIGHT NOW
[11:04:23]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : 10 SECONDS
[11:04:26]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : OR THEY ARE MINE
[11:04:30]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : ALL THEM ATTACHMENTS
[11:04:32]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : MINE // failed to comply
[11:04:40]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton.
[11:05:14]ATTACK: Alyx 'Winter' Einzbern (YYY) was hit by a the M39 submachinegun, thrown by Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler (billybobbizworth) // she walked into the spot i was throwing the confiscated weapons into, she then proceeded to radio that she was moving them to the brig, i said "roger that"
[11:05:46]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : I wouldnt call me that again MP
[11:05:51]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : If you know whats good for you // MP, i think winter insults me over MP channel.

--skipping some convos with other MPs

[11:06:52]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : CUT OUT THE CLOWNING AROUND // I radio to XO i believe the troops are ready for briefing, this is roughly the time briefing was starting or atleast the XO was standing there looking like he was ready to brief.Ive just checked the req line which is almost empty and majority of marines are in the brief room.
[11:06:55]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : OR YOUR MINE
[11:06:58]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : SIT DOWN
[11:07:01]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : SHUT THE FUCK UP
[11:07:04]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : RIGHT NOW
[11:07:58]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Welcome aboard MP // Freshly awoken MP radios in, i greet him.
[11:08:04]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Glad to have you
[11:08:16]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Your not afraid of arresting are you MP? // A non direct reference to the cowardice witnessed by me of Viktor the MP the previous around, the other current report i have open right now.
[11:08:33]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Get on your post winter // The start of Alyx the MP choosing to disregard orders.I personally see her not manning the post, to which i actually have to man for a few moments because im seeing a few medics and such needing to get past the checkpoint, which i operated and let them through for a minute or two.
[11:08:47]EMOTE: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : WO Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler salutes // Saluting a marine as i let them through the checkpoint.
[11:08:57]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Second time they have done this // A marine not once, but twice is caught sitting in briefing dual wielding M39's, both witnessed by me, i dealt with the matter the first time by removing and confiscating his weapons, the second as you can see i ordered a MP to arrest and brig them.My job.
[11:09:01]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Brig them for insub
[11:09:04]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Right now MP
[11:09:07]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Take them away
[11:09:10]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Your under arrest
[11:09:13]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : For insub
[11:09:16]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Process them at once

It was obvious even from as early as briefing/req time during that round, that not all, but some MP's were clearly not following orders and/or doing their job properly, as overwatched by me, apart of my job.The MP's that decided to do nothing, or allow the removal of me werent apart of that because i had actually broke and marine law, or server rules, or because i was being a hardass.But actually because once i realized the spawning of problematic MP's issues, that made me have to be a hardass to attempt to get them in line, which they obviously didnt appreiate.Could also be partially because of OOC reasons/relationships, very likely partially the reason.

But they made the situation that warranted me having to address them like that, by not follow orders, its really that simple.

Did any of the MP's attempt to investigate the accusations being charged to me? Did anyone secure the fax and read it, make sure the details were even factual? Was the person, whoever it was that took over my position attempt to investigate why the previous WMP was removed and if there was reason to believe it was factual? The questions go on really.

Pretty sure none of this happened, what did happen was a admiral was sent because jester sent his fax, over lies he fabricated, as non MP and a non Staff Officer, the kind of ranks that actually deal with these matters.

[11:04:40]EMOTE: Gus Ann/XXX : PFC Gus Ann cries out in pain!
[11:04:40]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton.
[11:04:41]ATTACK: (John Leopard) grabbed XXX/(Gus Ann)
[11:05:15]ATTACK: /(John Leopard) grabbed XXX/(Gus Ann)
[11:08:28]SAY: Gus Ann/XXX : I havent room
[11:08:46]SAY: Gus Ann/XXX : I did
[11:09:08]EMOTE: Gus Ann/XXX : PFC Gus Ann cries out in pain! // Marine failed to comply this time, everytime i stunned a marine for not holstering in time, they had a gun in hand, and each time i picked up that gun, unloaded it and threw it into the command/security rooms west side of briefing room.When jester or any of the marines got stunned, they still had a gun in hand, everytime. They were too busy trying to type when all they had to do was holster.There was also a marine or two i told, that if you cant holster it, then atleast but it back in your prep for now or the lockers in the extended bunk rooms, this is all legal, and part of what i am required to do as a CMP.My job.
[11:09:08]ATTACK: /(Tex 'T-Rex' Mosser) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton.
[11:09:14]ATTACK: /(Tex 'T-Rex' Mosser) grabbed XXX/(Gus Ann)
[11:09:18]ATTACK: /(Tex 'T-Rex' Mosser) grabbed XXX/(Gus Ann)
[11:09:26]ATTACK: Zloy_Pingvin/(Gus Ann) attacked /(Tex 'T-Rex' Mosser) with M5 'Night Raider' survival knife (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[11:09:28]ATTACK: Zloy_Pingvin/(Gus Ann) attacked /(Tex 'T-Rex' Mosser) with M5 'Night Raider' survival knife (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[11:09:29]ATTACK: Zloy_Pingvin/(Gus Ann) attacked /(Tex 'T-Rex' Mosser) with M5 'Night Raider' survival knife (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[11:09:30]ATTACK: Zloy_Pingvin/(Gus Ann) attacked /(Tex 'T-Rex' Mosser) with M5 'Night Raider' survival knife (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[11:09:34]EMOTE: Gus Ann/XXX : PFC Gus Ann cries out in pain!
[11:09:34]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton. // First strike to the marine that was stabbing my MP to death in broad daylight with marines and i think another MP around, until i quickly go over and stopped the marine, a fellow MP cuffed whilst i showed him how much he fucked up in the form of non lethal stun baton strikes.
[11:09:35]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton.
[11:09:37]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton.
[11:09:38]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton.
[11:09:39]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton.
[11:09:41]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton.
[11:09:42]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton.
[11:09:43]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned XXX/(Gus Ann) with the the stunbaton.
[11:09:45]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : PERMA
[11:09:52]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : PERMA THE FUCK OUT OF HIM // Exactly what the marine deserved and what is called for by marine law for the crimes committed.
[11:09:54]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : RIGHT NOW
[11:10:07]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Everyone get the fuck INTO BRIEFING // Even though i just said this, briefing was seemily over and the marines were starting to get to the checkpoint gates, i let them through and move towards the hangar/brig direction with the rest of the MP's, over watching the escorting of the marine that stabbed my MP.

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 15 Aug 2018, 03:42

'[11:34:22]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : XO, why are sending marines into my office ot use my fax machine?" // Im seemily confused why the fuck the XO is even sending standard marines to me for ANY reason, and im wondering why hasnt the XO sent this marine to the front and said "noted, ill speak to the CMP and handle it"

Not what happened, and considering CMP is the same rank as XO, and also being related to marine law, i dont have to let anyone use the fax machine, whether its the XO or CO, fact.The brig fax machine is not players personal urinal they for whatever reason think they are entitled to using, their not.

"FOR REFERENCE - your previous ahelp this round: "

For as impartial you are with posting the logs, by the way thank you for posting them too.Why would you feel the need to bring this up exactly? Is it your way of trying to make me look like a idiot, because you seemed to have tried to do this a few times with how youve formated your post and the headers youve used on each log section, thats what im seeing.

Not to mention your blatant avoidance of posting the stabbing part of log section three, but hey, thanks for posting it.After i had to mention it, otherwise would of been a unknown fact and the way your youve worded it is obviously meant to make me look bad.Well i didnt forget that part, did i.

[11:41:31]ADMIN: HELP: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): just confiming, any SSD inmates can just go into the birg hypersleeper room, theres no reason why i should have to drag them all the east to the marine one yeah? - heard by 6 non-AFK admins.
[11:48:25]ADMIN: PM: Imperator_Titan/(Elder Warrior (514))->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): Correct.

It was a legitimate question and i didnt even actually see that admins reply(possible bug, happens abit actually), so i just decided to take said player to the marine cyro on the east side.

Because of the size of the hypersleeper room, i thought maybe its only meant for just SSD'd MP's, i just wanted to make sure.

But i made a executive decision and dealt with it anyways and just went the safe route of going to the normal cyro room.

Still dont know why or how its relevant though, other than to try and paint a picture.A false one at that.

Why cant you guys come out and just say it, theres one set of rules for players like me, and another for the admins.Not this clearly artificial type of "universal" lawset/ruleset thats so fucking subjective that its a joke.Theres holes everywhere.

NethIafins · Post by **NethIafins** » 15 Aug 2018, 05:19

BillyBoBBizWorth wrote: ↑
15 Aug 2018, 03:42
"FOR REFERENCE - your previous ahelp this round: "

For as impartial you are with posting the logs, by the way thank you for posting them too.Why would you feel the need to bring this up exactly? Is it your way of trying to make me look like a idiot, because you seemed to have tried to do this a few times with how youve formated your post and the headers youve used on each log section, thats what im seeing.

One of your concerns was that your ahelps went unanswered and unchecked. FOR REFERENCE I provided every ahelp you had this round (since others are in further log). This is done for completeness sake

BillyBoBBizWorth · Post by **BillyBoBBizWorth** » 15 Aug 2018, 05:34

NethIafins wrote: ↑
15 Aug 2018, 05:19
One of your concerns was that your ahelps went unanswered and unchecked. FOR REFERENCE I provided every ahelp you had this round (since others are in further log). This is done for completeness sake

Understood.

Mvp777 · Post by **Mvp777** » 15 Aug 2018, 09:34

How about everyone cool off? Rule 1 exists for a reason, sniping at eachother does nothing to resolve this report.

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