Player report - Blitz Schneidler

[Jarek]

Your Byond Key: jarektheraptor

Your Character Name: Jordan Cross

Accused Byond Key(if known): Not known

Character Name: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 02:30 British time, don't know how to convert that into US central.

What rule(s) were broken: Rule 3 and Rule 4

Description of the incident: The offenders role was WO. I was a survivor on big red, and I spawned in with pajamas on, this will be relevant a bit later. I eventually got rescued by the marines and went up, threatened a doctor with a gun and was arrested for 20 minutes by a regular MP. When I was released, I was told I had to wear a USCM uniform by the WO. I said no, because I wanted to wear the Pajamas, and I was tazed, cuffed, and forced to wear the uniform anyway. They also took away my survival pouch and tools pouch which are usually perfectly fine and legal. I told them I wasn't happy with the treatment I was getting and I was told if I didn't "comply" I would get perma'd. I was still in hand-cuffs at the time, so I don't know why they were threatening me with perma. I continued to tell them I wanted my gear that I was allowed to have legally back, while still in handcuffs, and they ended up putting me in perma until I "changed my mind and started complying". I was left there until the alamo was hijacked and the xenos came to the almayer. They let me out, but forced me to come with them to requisitions by tazing me and dragging me with them. A marine ended up stopping them from dragging me after the WO, with the xenos on the almayer and killing people, decided to cuff me because I didn't want to go with them.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): I don't know how to get logs and I did not take screenshots, but there were plenty of staff on at the time.

How you would punish the accused: A job-ban from the roles they used to cause this problem.

[Grimreaperx15]

I was Ysabel Buttersworth that round, an Alpha Squad medic.
I'd like to preface this that I was not directly involved in the arrest, and I am only a witness to what I saw at the start, and end of the round, as well as a character witness against the CMP.

The round started with Alpha landing at LZ1 and finding the survivors (Jordan Cross David something, and someone else, who I forget) at the east size of the hangar. After a bit of RP, we managed to convince the survivors to head onto the ship, this is where my involvement ends until near the end of the round. I heard over the radio that Jordan Cross was in perma when I was near a wall mounted radio back on the Almayer just before the xenos boarded, and witnessed them arresting David for 'contraband', as he had worn his riot armor up from the surface.

That was the extent of my IC involvement, although after having escaped on a pod, dead chat had a lot of back and forth between myself, Cross, and the CMP (as well as a few others), over the CMPs actions. That'll all be pulled in the logs, so I won't comment much on it.

As for the character of Blitz, I'd like to bring up what Emerald Blood said in a previous report viewtopic.php?f=71&t=18372&hilit=Blitz&start=25#p220810, and say that I've seen Blitz perform poorly at best, and abusively at worst as CMP several times.

[BillyBoBBizWorth]

Im glad you atleast carried out the report you said you were going to, good on ya for sticking to your word, also most of the facts are still super fresh.

But you know what admins, ive done the long drawn out report bullshit with you before which led no where on my part, so im just going to say bring on the logs, and i mean all the logs of my conversations with this player that round, it will show exactly why he was permabrigged.I was messaged by a admin ingame, i explained it, they never replied back so usually that means its legal, resolved or still being looked into.

Heres comes my official rebuttal to this specific report :

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!

Then because how much you guys all thought i was the worst CMP out there, i infact played another round i just finished as CMP, and then i told myself i would come check here to hopefully see the report i was promised and here it is.I even gave you my CKEY and told you who i was to make it easier for you, otherwise this report probably wouldnt exist.Thats how certain i am you were treated perfectly legal as the rules state.
The next round i had the same bullshit, around 10+ marines gang up the only two MP's awake(me being one of them in 100+ pop round)) for doing a lawful arrest, and ive got to sit and explain to you admins in multiple paragraphs why they should even be brigged? Give me a fucking break, and Titus the MP had to explain it to you for even longer.

These are the kinds of reasons why this process is bogus, the CMP/MP's are treated like criminals themselves almost(atleast it feels like it) and have to take excessive time out of the round to explain any brigging that a player reports, even when its justified and alot of the time after explaining we dont even get a reply back, because everything we did was basically by the books.Atleast in my experiences.

So im taking this report air time to express my opinion with the bullshit MP's have to deal with and me personally as a player, rather than explain this bullshit report.

Cross, ive been permabrigged for less than what you did as a player not in the MP's department, so you shouldnt even be complaining considering how reasonable i was trying to be with you and also considering everything that was going on.Which was a event round with Health Inspectors onboard that i was trying to RP with, something i dont USUALLY DO.

And Butter, i told you what i thought about your comments after the round ended, because you were harping on like you knew the whole situation from start to finish, you dont, so you really dont know jackshit as to why, how or what i should be doing as a CMP.You also had a chance in the later part of the round to Ahelp me, did you? Dont think you did, but you could of with how seemly informed about the whole situation you came across as talking to me in Dchat.

SHOW ME THE LOGS! IF i knew where to get them myself, i would rip and post them and speed this along.

And watch this, im basically going to predict whats going to happen in the later stages of this report.

Admins will step in after the logs are shown, or maybe even before, giving their assessment, whether its bias or not, right or wrong or what they think.

Then it will be time for me to reply(which i may just not reply anymore, (i fucking hate this report section as to how soft as fuck it is, but not the concept) and i will state all the facts that lead up to why you were brigged in the first place and then everything right up to the end of round almost.LIke ive done on every other report ive done against other players, for legit reasons, that ended up getting dismissed.

And guess what will happen even when i detail basically everything that happened? The admins will write this report off for either or both sides, but the difference is.

IF i prove you to be making a false report here basically trying to get me jobbanned from a role im actually pretty good at, nothing will happen to you.

IF you prove that i really did do something wrong somehow and the admins concur, then i get the punishment.

So for someone like me in this position im almost set up for a loose/loose situation, where as you can win either way because you wont even be punished for trying to get me job banned.

And you know what i say to that.
I think you know.

I have to do the same shit FUCKING TWICE, once ingame explaining to the admins and now once a again on the fucking forums.The only one who can get exhausted by this is me just by trying to explain in detail what happened.Well im not fucking doing it anymore and im not being your fucking entertainment.

The only thing im willing to just about do is jump on the teamspeak you all use, discord, and ill speak to someone or multiple admins in person, im not typing all this shit out anymore.If you want me to do that, i will.It would be easier, faster and more effective.

Infact if i can get a reply shortly enough ill do it right now whilst it was just a round or two ago and everything is well remembered.Ill give it 30 minutes to a hour to see if i get a reply giving me the go ahead to speak over voice, or i might just download/install it anyhow and ill come find you admins, because i want to resolve all these misconceptions some of you admins have about me that i keep getting accused of.Let me hear the voices of the people that are strangers over the fucking internet telling me i have a "attitude" problem almost everytime i have a interaction with one of you, let me hear how mature all you lot really are, because judging by the shit you say in chat ingame(and in townhall recordings), you sound fucking far from mature as far as im concerned and shouldnt be throwing the "mature" card at anyone else for that matter.

Saying shit like "BIG GAY", thats the first time ive ever said that, and im quoting, thats the kind of shit i see you admins say, and ive got the immaturity/attitude problem? Your fucking crazy.
Im saying this because this is the kind of subjects you admins will soon be discussing about me like youve done before, im just getting us there sooner and cutting the shit.

Has any admin actually watched me for a good portion of a round as a CMP? Ive got more problems with admins and this system than i do with this player that has reported me, or Butters, which says everything about why im at this point of writing like this.

[x31stOverlord]

Right. I'll look at pulling logs when I get home from work in a few hours.

[BillyBoBBizWorth]

Right. I'll look at pulling logs when I get home from work in a few hours.

Thanks, i appreciate it.Could i speak to you over voice, asking seeming your the first to answer? When you have time for it of coarse, id really rather speak one on one with someone at this point, civilly.

[x31stOverlord]

When I get home I'll ping you on the discord

[solidfury7]

The reason why everything is written out means all the facts are there, unchangeable and plain on the page.

While voice chat is okay for explaining stuff, it's a very sloppy way of doing more in depth investigations.

I will say that refusing to reply with text is going to hurt any chance of proving your case.

Oh and I recommend calming down. I of all people know how irritating droll responding to reports can be, however flopping your lid and firing shots at everything and everyone isn't going to help your case.

If you have complaints or views on the report process, it's far better to message a head about it or discuss it in the townhall.

Best of luck.

[BillyBoBBizWorth]

The reason why everything is written out means all the facts are there, unchangeable and plain on the page.

While voice chat is okay for explaining stuff, it's a very sloppy way of doing more in depth investigations.

I will say that refusing to reply with text is going to hurt any chance of proving your case.

Oh and I recommend calming down. I of all people know how irritating droll responding to reports can be, however flopping your lid and firing shots at everything and everyone isn't going to help your case.

If you have complaints or views on the report process, it's far better to message a head about it or discuss it in the townhall.

Best of luck.

I shouldnt need to to say much more, everything you need to know should be in the logs once they arrive, and when i do/have done a point by point address like i have before, its pretty much all dismissed, so whats the bloody point solid?

I want to speak properly to someone where my words are acknowledged exactly how i am saying them and not bent into whatever category you want to file it under.Why? Because thats whats seems to be what happens to me majority of the times ive made a report and im not wasting my time doing it anymore.

Getting the chance to even talk to someone like yourself solid would be good, youve handled alot of my notes in the past if i remember correctly, your exactly the admin i want to be talking to and probably have the "toxic" or "immature" view of me like im accused of.

however flopping your lid and firing shots at everything and everyone isn't going to help your case.

Remember, i didnt make this report this time, im getting shots fired at me, and im going to very well respond to them in one way or another, and this is how ive approached it this time.That doesnt make me the bad guy or a criminal, im here defending myself against a report about me just trying to play the CMP role to the best of my ability.
See it how you wish.

Its possible that when and if i get to talk to admins regarding this on discord, it could be recorded from either end and posted here that way as the "testimony" if you will.Same effect.

[x31stOverlord]

At home, pulling logs now -

EDIT: Had to go out, was pulling logs, will finish pulling tonight hopefully unless one of our other staff beats me to it

[Enigmachine]

I'm Titus the MP, and am posting as a character witness.

I kept popping in and out of this drama in between other things in the round. Specifically I:

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Initially spotted Cross in R&R but didn't tend to him because I was dealing with an open case and knew other MP's were free. I actually thought his PJ's were a Colonel Sanders outfit.
Cuffed Cross after witnessing him assault medbay personnel and another MP tased him. He did indeed aim at one of them.
Brought 2 surplus USCM uniforms to the brig (I wasn't sure if there were 1 or 2 survivors who needed it).
Witnessed Cross refuse to take off his PJ's and put on the uniform, followed by acting mentally unstable. I.e. bizarrely obsessed over his PJ's.
Heard Cross on his headset saying he'd been permabrigged over PJ's. It's not that simple.

We remember things you've done inside a round, and threatening medbay personnel with a lethal weapon is double-plus unacceptable given it involves the wounded AND civilians. Does it really not cross your mind that given you'd done THAT that the other MP's would be upset by you weirdly refusing to don proper clothes? It's IC and OOC weird to want to stew in probably rank, bloody PJ's when fresh, clean clothes are on offer. Furthermore, I'm guessing the others slapped you with Assault With a Deadly Weapon, given you said it was a 20 minute sentence you received at first. That is the minimum for that charge. The max is permabrig. So you basically got the closest to a slap on the wrist they could give you then kept throwing a fit, which has now escalated outside the round here.

I don't know what Schneidler charged you with to justify the permabrig, but the max sentence for Contraband at time of writing is permabrig. So money's on that one being used, and CMP ABSOLUTELY has final word on ML rulings unless a staff member tells him otherwise.

As for your tools. Shoot, I wonder what you'd have done with those given your history at that point. My money would have been on you shitting things up more and busting into research and stuffing yourself with as many drugs as possible. Maybe blowing something up.

As to this mention of 'rights': Going off of ML (again at time of writing) it's not there. Below is the closest it comes to 'rights' of that sort.

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Once the timer is over, let them grab their belongings, escort them out of the brig and set their record status to "Released".

So as far as I can see the most you possibly have is a need for staff clarification on the confiscation of survivor items that aren't contraband, such as tools from a survivor that isn't fully trustworthy.

As to the character of Schneidler himself: he's a bit harsh for my tastes but then again I do not know what it's like to be CMP. Other than that I haven't seen him display IC malice, disregard of rules (server and Marine Law), and have seen him show a genuine desire to keep the Almayer more well-composed than a space barge full of Staff Assistants with machine guns.

If you're gonna role play a volatile or worse survivor then understand there's gonna be a reaction to it.

[taketheshot56]

I was an MP this round, while Blitz was in my opinion not doing anything wrong, I however was also guarding CIC for quite some time so i was out of the loop. All i know is contraband is a very broad word. I dont think he did anything maliciously.

Echoing my fellow MP above if you are gonna play a volatile survivor, expect the CMP to come down hard.

[Jarek]

I'm Titus the MP, and am posting as a character witness.

I kept popping in and out of this drama in between other things in the round. Specifically I:

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Initially spotted Cross in R&R but didn't tend to him because I was dealing with an open case and knew other MP's were free. I actually thought his PJ's were a Colonel Sanders outfit.
Cuffed Cross after witnessing him assault medbay personnel and another MP tased him. He did indeed aim at one of them.
Brought 2 surplus USCM uniforms to the brig (I wasn't sure if there were 1 or 2 survivors who needed it).
Witnessed Cross refuse to take off his PJ's and put on the uniform, followed by acting mentally unstable. I.e. bizarrely obsessed over his PJ's.
Heard Cross on his headset saying he'd been permabrigged over PJ's. It's not that simple.

We remember things you've done inside a round, and threatening medbay personnel with a lethal weapon is double-plus unacceptable given it involves the wounded AND civilians. Does it really not cross your mind that given you'd done THAT that the other MP's would be upset by you weirdly refusing to don proper clothes? It's IC and OOC weird to want to stew in probably rank, bloody PJ's when fresh, clean clothes are on offer. Furthermore, I'm guessing the others slapped you with Assault With a Deadly Weapon, given you said it was a 20 minute sentence you received at first. That is the minimum for that charge. The max is permabrig. So you basically got the closest to a slap on the wrist they could give you then kept throwing a fit, which has now escalated outside the round here.

I don't know what Schneidler charged you with to justify the permabrig, but the max sentence for Contraband at time of writing is permabrig. So money's on that one being used, and CMP ABSOLUTELY has final word on ML rulings unless a staff member tells him otherwise.

As for your tools. Shoot, I wonder what you'd have done with those given your history at that point. My money would have been on you shitting things up more and busting into research and stuffing yourself with as many drugs as possible. Maybe blowing something up.

As to this mention of 'rights': Going off of ML (again at time of writing) it's not there. Below is the closest it comes to 'rights' of that sort.

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Once the timer is over, let them grab their belongings, escort them out of the brig and set their record status to "Released".

So as far as I can see the most you possibly have is a need for staff clarification on the confiscation of survivor items that aren't contraband, such as tools from a survivor that isn't fully trustworthy.

As to the character of Schneidler himself: he's a bit harsh for my tastes but then again I do not know what it's like to be CMP. Other than that I haven't seen him display IC malice, disregard of rules (server and Marine Law), and have seen him show a genuine desire to keep the Almayer more well-composed than a space barge full of Staff Assistants with machine guns.

If you're gonna role play a volatile or worse survivor then understand there's gonna be a reaction to it.

It really was that simple. Had you been there, you would have seen it for yourself. I wasn't expecting to be perma-brigged for not following a dress code that wasn't enforced or part of marine law, and in my countless times playing and being rescued as a survivor, I've never once been told my choice of clothing wasn't allowed and I needed to change. I was perfectly fine accepting a 20 minute sentence for a crime that I commited, that was fair, I wasn't happy with being threatened with perma-brig because I didn't want to put on a uniform that I definitely didn't need to. I was even less happy about the entire situation when I was tazed and cuffed for it. That just made me more resistant, but bear in mind the entire time I didn't go full apeshit and start screaming, nor did I start spouting insults or anything that would have broken any additional laws. I am aware the 20 minute sentence is the minimum sentence, but as far as I know re-applying sentences and perma'ing because the person you arrested wasn't following a demand you made that wasn't relevant to any marine law.

I had no items the MP's weren't happy to return to me after the cell timer was up. I don't know if you searched me or one of the other MP's did but when I was arrested I was searched and all of my contraband was tossed into the evidence room like I, again, fully expected. That means none of my gear, including my survival pouch with, at that point, nothing but a crowbar and bandages, and the tool pouch, was considered contraband, neither was the tools pouch. As far as I'm aware neither those pouches or any clothing I was spawned with is contraband.

I don't know where you got the impression I was a shitter from but that's your own problem. As far as I'm aware the way I play survivor is just fine and nobody is any worse off for it. The worst thing I do, at most, is make attempts to re-deploy, because being aboard the almayer and wandering around isn't amazingly interesting. Anyone who has played survivor more than one round and managed to get a rescue can agree there.


Oh, and I did not "assault" medbay personnel, I aimed a gun at one of them with all of the triggers to open fire turned off so they could do whatever they liked without taking a bullet. That was about as far as my involvement with medbay went, and about as far as my "volatile" survivor play went, too. I spent 20 minutes in a cell and then calmly took my stuff and attempted to leave. As for the "mental instability" I cared less about the PJ's and more about the fact I was obviously being mistreated by being tazed and forcefully redressed, and having my legal items taken away, and then being told I had to "comply" and accept my items had just been stolen. IC'ly, my character wouldn't have been very happy with the obvious mistreatment, and OOC'ly, I was fully ready to accept that this round was probably going to be a shit one.

[Frans_Feiffer]

I would just like to note/clarify, as it seems to be the start of this, that Survivors are not, or at least should not be in USCM Uniform. Survivors are Colonists, not USCM personnel and therefore should not be in it, nor forced to wear it. To add to that, being a bit mentally unstable is ok so long as they RP that way throughout the entire round. They’re the only survivor(s) of a horrible accident caused by an alien species that no one’s ever documented, so in that regard, the consensus is that, that behavior is ok so long as you uphold that RP standard throughout the game.

Thought that might help clarify, but it can be removed if this is irrelevant. Since Overlord said he’d get the logs, i’ll leave it to him and keep my opinion out of this one, but I just wanted to add this so that we all have a better understanding of the way this works for the future.

[Enigmachine]

In case the bit about Cross being mentally damaged escalates; OOC that wasn't an issue at all. I'm nowhere saying it was. It was an IC issue that from what I saw contributed to how he was reacted to, which in turn has broken into an OOC dispute.

[Jarek]

In case the bit about Cross being mentally damaged escalates; OOC that wasn't an issue at all. I'm nowhere saying it was. It was an IC issue that from what I saw contributed to how he was reacted to, which in turn has broken into an OOC dispute.

Aye, While it was a bit of roleplay that I was partaking in, I doubt the CMP themselves put me in perma because I was acting mentally unstable. They gave no indicator that was the case and it seemed more like they were doing it just because I wasn't going along with their power fantasy. The fact they put me in perma because I simply told them I was unhappy with being treated the way I was repeatedly.

Reading through the big post blitz made they mentioned OSHA inspectors and that being the reason they were so anal about me wearing specific clothes and shoving me in perma over it, except they, again, gave no indicator that they were doing what they did for ANY other reason other than they could get away with it because they were the CMP. Announcements were made BEFORE I was rescued as a survivor about these inspectors, so I, Ic'ly, had no idea that they existed aboard the Almayer at all because I wouldn't have been able to hear the announcement in the first place. I don't believe any announcements were made while I was on-board the Almayer, either. They may have, but I would have missed them, and missing them or hearing them isn't really relevant considering how the CMP decided to play the situation (Not informing me of the situation at all and telling me to "comply" without any context or reason).

[Tharinoma]

Arrest :

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[19:39:35]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I was taking a nap
[19:39:40]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Where's the bed gone
[19:39:46]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Sort them out, dont let the HI's see them
[19:40:00]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Can I wait for the other two people
[19:40:10]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Who were also rudely waken up
[19:40:18]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Where is the entry place
[19:40:44]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Hmmmmmmmmmmm
[19:40:56]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : But I need it to shoot people who wake me up when I'm annoyed
[19:41:18]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : People get shot all the time on the colony
[19:41:28]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : What.
[19:41:36]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : HI's dont sound to happy over eng c hannel
[19:41:36]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Did that man just say
[19:41:45]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Roger
[19:41:51]ATTACK: Claymore Allister (XXXXXXX) shot Jordan 'Raptor' Cross (jarektheraptor) with a taser bolt in the Medical Lower
[19:41:54]ATTACK: XXXXXXX/(Titus Voltheron) attempted to handcuff JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[19:41:56]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : SHEEEE WOKE ME UP

In brig :

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[19:49:26]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : So what happened down there sir
[19:49:36]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Why did you pull a gun on a doctor
[19:49:44]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : I got one
[19:49:45]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : THEY RUINED MY BEAUTY SLEEP
[19:49:53]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Not good enough sir
[19:50:00]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : It's good enough for me
[19:50:26]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : You cant pull shit like that on a miltary ship
[19:50:34]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Says who
[19:50:35]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : You will be punished just like a marine
[19:50:38]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I just did pull it
[19:50:38]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Says me
[19:50:44]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : And says marine law
[19:50:46]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Also
[19:50:47]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Nobody ruins my beauty sleep
[19:50:53]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I'll shoot them if they do
[19:50:55]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : It's that simple
[19:51:00]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Everyone knows
[19:51:11]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Well i can put you in a permanent cell if you want to sleep that much?
[19:51:17]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : It would work out better for me anyhow
[19:51:36]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Yeah
[19:51:40]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : No reply to that
[19:51:43]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Thought so
[19:51:46]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I might be sleepy
[19:51:48]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : But I'm not stupid.

Release :

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[20:03:21]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Cross
[20:03:27]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : What
[20:03:33]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Your just about free
[20:03:50]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Right
[20:03:53]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : MP, we need two uniforms ones for Cross in the brig too, hes about to be released
[20:04:06]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : We will get your a uniform
[20:04:19]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Yeah, it will do for now
[20:04:33]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Almost all we have as well
[20:04:49]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Alright cross
[20:04:54]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Once your released
[20:05:05]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Realize that your for crime was a major one
[20:05:13]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : If you are caught doing anything else
[20:05:20]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : I will be permabrigged you
[20:05:32]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : A third??
[20:06:05]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Follow me
[20:06:10]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Dont run off
[20:06:20]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I dont think running off is a crime
[20:06:32]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Im telling you, stay with me
[20:06:36]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Set to arrest
[20:06:46]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : On me now sir
[20:06:52]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Good
[20:06:55]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Saves time
[20:07:01]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Please put that uniform on
[20:07:08]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I do not want to put that on
[20:07:11]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : PJ's are better
[20:07:13]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : You have no choice
[20:07:19]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Do it, or ill put it on for you
[20:07:24]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Your starting to bug me sir
[20:07:28]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : You will comply
[20:07:31]ATTACK: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler (billybobbizworth) shot Jordan 'Raptor' Cross (jarektheraptor) with a taser bolt in the Brig
[20:07:31]ATTACK: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler (billybobbizworth) shot Jordan 'Raptor' Cross (jarektheraptor) with a taser bolt in the Brig
[20:07:34]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:07:34]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:07:39]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I don't want your godamn clothes
[20:07:39]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) attempted to handcuff JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:07:39]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) attempted to handcuff JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:07:45]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:07:45]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:07:55]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : MP
[20:08:03]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Put them guns and these clothes in the locker
[20:08:05]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : This man is trying to sexually assault me
[20:08:10]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Save me
173592: [20:08:17]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Tony
[20:08:34]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : You want to stay in the brig do you?
[20:08:43]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : You dont want to roam around and get some fresh air?
[20:08:43]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I know what abuse of power looks like
[20:08:46]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : This is it
[20:08:51]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Those are my clothes
[20:08:51]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Im just about done with you
[20:08:54]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I want them back
[20:09:02]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : I will brig you again
[20:09:07]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : For what
[20:09:09]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Your going that way very quickly
[20:09:20]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Whats it going to be
[20:09:26]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : You tell me
[20:09:29]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : My clothes and my tools that aren't illegal back
[20:09:44]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Very good solution I think
[20:10:02]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Sir, we have personel onboard currently, we cannot allow you to have them tools or wear them clothes
[20:10:09]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : And if you continue to fucking waste my time
[20:10:12]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : The tools aren't illegal.
[20:10:16]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : And the clothes aren't either.
[20:10:18]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Im going to perma brig you so your out of my hair
[20:10:22]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND
[20:10:26]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Otherwise when I was searched
[20:10:29]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : They would have been taken from me.
[20:10:40]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS TO SAY YOU WILL COMPLY
[20:10:56]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Right
[20:11:20]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:11:20]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:11:33]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Your going to sit in here for another 10 minutes until you snap the fuck out of it
[20:11:39]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : I dont have time for your shit anymore
[20:11:43]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Again.
[20:11:45]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I'm not stupid.
[20:11:59]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I know what you're doing is not within your power and I won't bend a knee to it.
[20:12:06]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : You clearly are stupid, otherwise you would fucking complied with everything i said
[20:12:08]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : You had a right to arrest me originally.
[20:12:13]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : You don't have a right to do this.
[20:12:14]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross) with the the stunbaton.
[20:12:14]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) stunned JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross) with the the stunbaton.
[20:12:29]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Watchme
[20:12:34]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : 10 minutes
174687: [20:12:37]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Ill be back
[20:12:44]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : If you feel like complying them
[20:12:46]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Then
[20:12:52]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : You will be released
[20:12:56]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Otherwise your staying here

Ahelp

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[20:14:01]ADMIN: HELP: JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross): The WO has opted to put me in perma-brig for the time being for not "complying" with him because I told him I wasn't happy with him taking my clothes that I had as a survivor away along with my tools (which I believe are legal). Is this neccessarily allowed? - heard by 7 non-AFK admins.
[20:15:01]ADMIN: PM: ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy)->JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross): What charges were you brigged for in the first place?
[20:15:15]ADMIN: PM: JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)->ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy): Assault with a deadly weapon, because I aimed a gun at a doctor, which was fair
[20:15:27]ADMIN: PM: JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)->ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy): They brigged me for 20 minutes and I served the time without an issue
[20:16:01]ADMIN: PM: ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy)->JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross): And so how come you've been perma-d in relation to the "not complying" part of your story?
[20:17:05]ADMIN: PM: JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)->ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy): Well as I said, I am a survivor, and I refused to wear a USCM uniform, so I was cuffed and forced to wear one. I told him I wasn't happy about it, and he told me if I didn't comply he was going to put me in perma until I changed my mind
[20:20:29]ADMIN: PM: ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): Hey mate, how come you put the colonist in perma for not wearing the prisoner uniform? Seems a bit harsh.
[20:20:53]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy): give me a sec and ill explain
[20:21:01]ADMIN: PM: ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): All good take yer time.
[20:24:55]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy): OK, a very busy round so far
[20:26:38]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy): ok, so the guy got brigged for 20 minutes for pulling a gun on a doctor, then he refused to comply with the simplest requests like a new uniform etc and no guns etc etc. he kept on not willing to comply and was showing he was a further threat to the ship. Especially from the initial; brigging. It got to the point of trying to reason with him for 10 minutes that i didnt have time to waste on him anymore. He wanted it and basically was forcing me to react this way by his own actions.
[20:28:36]ADMIN: PM: ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy)->BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler): Yeah I getcha, seems the xenos are boarding now so just don't forget about him. Enjoy the rest of your round.
[20:28:53]ADMIN: PM: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler)->ADMIN/(Lochlann 'Saint' Healy): roger, yeah i know hes still there.

Some of the shouting for help :

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[20:23:51]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I was locked in a cell for no reason.
[20:24:23]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : They put me in perma for not wanting to wear clothes that weren't PJ's.
[20:24:27]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I'm not even joking.
[20:24:36]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I'm in fucking perma because I didn't want to wear a uniform.
[20:24:59]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Can someone get me out?

[20:27:26]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : The CMP put me in a jail cell because I didn't "comply" when I told them I didn't want to wear the clothes they forced me to wear.

[20:28:16]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : LET ME OUT
[20:28:19]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : OF THIS GODAMN CELL
[20:28:31]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : SOMEONE GET ME THE FUCK OUT OF HERE

Alien invasion and moving prisoners :

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[20:29:10]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Prepare to move prisioners to the REQ
[20:29:14]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Start moving them now
[20:29:20]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : Take them all to the REQ
[20:29:31]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : All MP's get the prisioners, and move quickly move move
[20:29:48]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:29:53]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Still don't belong in a cell
[20:30:05]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : TO REQ MARINES
[20:30:14]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Where's my clothes.
[20:30:15]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : My real ones.
[20:30:25]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : WE DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS
[20:30:28]ATTACK: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler (billybobbizworth) shot Jordan 'Raptor' Cross (jarektheraptor) with a taser bolt in the Brig
[20:30:28]ATTACK: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler (billybobbizworth) shot Jordan 'Raptor' Cross (jarektheraptor) with a taser bolt in the Brig
[20:30:32]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:30:32]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:30:54]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : TO REQ
[20:31:12]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : YOU DUMB FUCK
[20:31:24]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : PAJAMA PEOPLE
]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : RALLY
[20:31:38]ATTACK: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler (billybobbizworth) shot Jordan 'Raptor' Cross (jarektheraptor) with a taser bolt in the Secure Command Hallway
[20:31:38]ATTACK: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler (billybobbizworth) shot Jordan 'Raptor' Cross (jarektheraptor) with a taser bolt in the Secure Command Hallway
[20:31:42]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : WOULD YOU FUCKING LEAVE ME ALONE
[20:31:44]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) attempted to handcuff JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:31:44]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) attempted to handcuff JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:31:50]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:31:50]ATTACK: BillyBoBBizWorth/(Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:31:53]ATTACK: Youre in a coma/(Victor Charlie) grabbed JarekTheRaptor/(Jordan 'Raptor' Cross)
[20:31:54]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : YOU JUST DONT LEARN DO YA
[20:32:00]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : I haven't done anything wrong
[20:32:02]SAY: Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler/BillyBoBBizWorth : EVERYONE TO REQ NOW
[20:32:19]OOC: (LOCAL) Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : is this WO bald or am I being pranked

[20:32:27]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Thanks.
[20:32:32]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : You're the first reasonable person I've met
[20:33:29]SAY: Jordan 'Raptor' Cross/JarekTheRaptor : Let me out

There is a lengthy deadchat discussion after this, not posting cause it's long.

[Sir Lordington]

From what I can see in the logs, arrest procedure was not followed, survivors don't have to wear USCM uniforms and putting them in perma for refusing is just way over the line. Despite that, I'm willing to make an exception and give BillyBobBizWorth a chance to speak to me over voice if he so wishes. PM me over the next 24 hours and we'll arrange something.

[Sir Lordington]

No attempts to contact me have been made despite the 24 hour period being well over. The CMP broke procedure several times and put a person in perma without a valid reason. He'll be receiving a ban from both MP and CMP.

Resolved.