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FickMacher

Post by EastGermanStasi » 27 May 2015, 19:19

Your Byond Key: Eastgermanstasi

Your character name: Melyvn Phillips

Their Byond key: Fickmacher

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central Us Time for best results): Uhhh like 6:30-7:10 PM EST.

Which Admin Protocols (http://goo.gl/fBUQGG) were broken: 1; Keep calm and professional

Description of the incident: Fick took to OOC to cuss out a LO and started yelling at players who were fucking about in game.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):


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How you would punish the accused: Reprimand.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by helios345 » 27 May 2015, 19:38

Yeah I was there and he was literally going nuts over what happened.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by EastGermanStasi » 27 May 2015, 19:43

His behavior was uncalled for, Paw seemed to of handled it better.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by Feweh » 27 May 2015, 20:10

Everyone need's to relax, this is blown out of context.

Things were chaotic, people where going nuts and there was no way to deal with one individual separately.

He swore and used capitals letters. Hardly unprofessional and if he went about thing's calmly I guarantee you three assholes above would be some of the first people to start sending in Adminhelps about how some guy was attacking you. If a Admin writes in OOC in with capitals and is swearing I'm much more likely to take notice rather than the "Hey guys, can we all please stop punching and killing eachother?"

I can't believe this is even a Admin report after all the other shit that goes on in-game, fuck was dropped a couple of times and he used capital letters.. come on people.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by EastGermanStasi » 27 May 2015, 20:36

Pink wrote:Everyone need's to relax, this is blown out of context.

Things were chaotic, people where going nuts and there was no way to deal with one individual separately.
Yet he should of kept his cool instead of "GET THE FUCK OFF!!"
Pink wrote: He swore and used capitals letters. Hardly unprofessional and if he went about thing's calmly I guarantee you three assholes above would be some of the first people to start sending in Adminhelps about how some guy was attacking you.
I didn't even ahelp, I just saw the unprofessional and reported it.
Also rule 1 buddy.
Pink wrote: If a Admin writes in OOC in with capitals and is swearing I'm much more likely to take notice rather than the "Hey guys, can we all please stop punching and killing eachother?"
So you are saying admins should type in all caps and swear when they aren't listened to instead of using admin announce etc.
Hardly mature nor professional.
Pink wrote: I can't believe this is even a Admin report after all the other shit that goes on in-game, fuck was dropped a couple of times and he used capital letters.. come on people.
It's only a reprimand, relax.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by Fickmacher » 27 May 2015, 20:47

Alright, time for my input. It was a Logistics Line mess that I'm sure all of us have seen. Between the Logistics Officer who I had to ban for all of his trouble, answering a LOT of ahelps, and then asking people to stop it with no good response, I resorted to a one-two-three warning before dropping the cluster flashes. What isn't in this screenshot is everything before I had to resort to yelling and using harsh language. Go ahead and check the logs, Apophis. Luckily my tactic worked, and by three things were starting to sort out WITHOUT having to resort cluster flashes. What you also didn't post is how it was under control, the LO was banned, and how I thanked the MPs for stepping up and taking control. I'm sorry if caps and swear words made you upset, but it was a better alternative than punishing everyone with loud bangs and eye damage, not to mention going ban-happy (which I resisted.) Paw was nice because she needed to be the good cop to my bad cop at the time, and her help was greatly appreciated. Everyone on this staff puts in a ton of effort and work behind the scenes and are not required to use proper etiquette at all times. Again, I am sorry if you were offended, but I stand by the claim that with all that was going on that this was the best way for me to handle it at the time, and I am sorry if you were offended. As I didn't know that I was going to get a complaint, I did not take my own screenshots of this round. However, you can check the logs and see what I meant.
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Re: FickMacher

Post by UnknownMurder » 27 May 2015, 20:50

I see nothing wrong here... SASoperative yells at people. Apophis yells at people. I yelled at people. Sometimes, Cluster Grenades is not good enough and you would be flashing the 15 innocents because of 3 troublemakers.

Just my input.
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Re: FickMacher

Post by Davidchan » 27 May 2015, 21:09

As much as I love to see an admin/staff put in their place for overstepping their bounds, I really don't see anything wrong here. Fick got mad and overwhelmed with people being retarded. That happens a lot on this server. Marines curse at marines, Aliens curse at Aliens. If you are unhappy with people cursing, get off the server. If you're unhappy with a staff member getting upset because people are breaking server rules... well you're seeing my point.

Marines had a right to get pissed off at the LO for being a complete shitfuck. They didn't have the right to basically riot over something the MPs/Commander should have handled. LOs always have been, and always will be a source of problems on this server, it takes away RP opportunities and should be done away with marines spawning into squads directly and getting assigned to Medic/Engineering roles or moved to other squads by their squad leads. Marines who are happy with their assignment can congregate in their ready areas and interact. You know, roleplay and bond. Waiting 20 minutes in line for an LO to push 3 buttons and send you off like some sort of assembly line product really kills the atmosphere, at least for me.

But back to the topic at hand. Could Fich have done a better job, used CentComm updates or Admin announcements instead of yelling over OOC? Yeah probably. Could he have gone crazy banning and gibbing anyone who was table climbing and making a bad situation worse? Definitely. He could have done worse, and he could have done better. As it stands, what he did was acceptable, and if I'm not mistaken the round was put back on track and everyone got to shoot some aliums and/or get facerapedhugged.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by EastGermanStasi » 27 May 2015, 21:17

I mean you are acting like it's a demote.
Do you know what a reprimand is.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by Fickmacher » 27 May 2015, 21:25

Davidchan wrote:But back to the topic at hand. Could Fich have done a better job, used CentComm updates or Admin announcements instead of yelling over OOC? Yeah probably. Could he have gone crazy banning and gibbing anyone who was table climbing and making a bad situation worse? Definitely. He could have done worse, and he could have done better. As it stands, what he did was acceptable, and if I'm not mistaken the round was put back on track and everyone got to shoot some aliums and/or get facerapedhugged.
While I do appreciate the input, since it was just Paw and me on, and we're a Trialmod and moderator, respectively, we do not have access to Centcomm announcements nor Admin announcements. >_<
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Re: FickMacher

Post by Davidchan » 27 May 2015, 21:28

EastGermanStasi wrote:I mean you are acting like it's a demote.
Do you know what a reprimand is.
The rules state he is to remain professional, but also all some leeway. Profuse use of swearing is not tolerated. Saying fuck/fucking isn't against the rule, he wasn't calling anyone a retard or some other disgusting name.

And he was yelling at the marines like they were children, because frankly they were acting like children. And while he called the LO 'shit', he thanked the MPs and others for their cooperation and encouraged them to try and get back on track.

We have full admins who wouldn't have kept their composure and likely would have carpet bombed the area with flashbangs and banned anyone in the LO office that wasn't an LO or MP. He may have toed the line, but from where I stand he didn't cross it.

You're asking for a strike to be filed against him for a non-issue. He swore, 3 times. He yelled. He handled a riot and banned a player who was abusing their position to ruin everyone else's fun and the RP atmosphere. Given the players involved complete disregard for the rules and making the situation worse, using his big boy voice was warranted.
Fickmacher wrote:While I do appreciate the input, since it was just Paw and me on, and we're a Trialmod and moderator, respectively, we do not have access to Centcomm announcements nor Admin announcements. >_<
Ah, well my mistake. In that case you did pretty much everything you could have done except stroke a kitten in use a stress ball to vent your frustration else where. Does kind of highlight a problem with our staffing structure and schedule if the tools needed to maintain order are unavailable when they are needed most.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by SASoperative » 27 May 2015, 22:27

He will be given a verbal warning... The only staff who should even be doing this are full fledged administrators and thats only as global punishment to both sides.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by apophis775 » 28 May 2015, 12:31

It looks to me, like he was using caps in ooc, to get peoples attention. Noone below Admin, has access to global announce.

Swearing, does not mean breaking professionalism. I am one of the saltiest people on the server, but that doesn't mean I'm not also professional.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by SASoperative » 28 May 2015, 14:16

This has been resolved and will be moved in approximately 6 hours from this post.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by EastGermanStasi » 28 May 2015, 15:03

SASoperative wrote:He will be given a verbal warning... The only staff who should even be doing this are full fledged administrators and thats only as global punishment to both sides.
Thank you SAS.

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Re: FickMacher

Post by Steven Sneider » 28 May 2015, 15:20

as far as i saw his actions seemed justified .clearly he as a alien didn't see how bad things were going.
NO MERCY! NO RESPITE!

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Re: FickMacher

Post by EastGermanStasi » 28 May 2015, 16:13

Verdict has already been ruled, thanks for the input though ^~^

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Re: FickMacher

Post by apophis775 » 28 May 2015, 19:55

I'm not sure about this. I think that sometimes people do need to bring down the hammer.

While swearing can be unprofessional, typing in all-caps to get attention when someone can't use the announce verb and doing what they need to garner that attention is acceptable.

This complaint, is missing key bits of information, such as, what fick actually did, other than yelling at people to stop fucking around, which, I probably would have done the exact same. Beyond what he said, he appeared to be calm throughout the situation.

Anyway, I'll leave this at what SAS decided, but I will be watching similar situations.

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