Feweh report by Laimingass

[Laimingass]

Your Byond Key: Laimingass

Your character name: Joey Ward

Their Byond key: Feweh

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central Us Time for best results): 10:55

Which Admin Protocols (http://goo.gl/fBUQGG) were broken: 2.1

Description of the incident: I was a runner, another alien asked on the hivemind if we can kill/harm armed hosts that attack us, a second later the queen permitted harming of hosts which obviously means yes, then I killed a survivor that had a knife and attacked me, another one had a circular saw but I didn't kill that one and then Feweh told me I killed an unarmed host yet the survivors were clearly armed with weapons and attacking others, then Feweh blamed me for doing it, yet the queen clearly allowed it. Then he ghosted my alien for no reason and I wasn't able to play for the time being.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): https://gyazo.com/1de1553b6a88ff407d8c48c789151fd1

How you would punish the accused: Stuff like this pisses me off when the mods can't decide properly. I would punish him by removing his mod status for a few days and making him read the rules....

[Feweh]

Your Byond Key: Laimingass

Your character name: Joey Ward

Their Byond key: Feweh

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central Us Time for best results): 10:55

Which Admin Protocols (http://goo.gl/fBUQGG) were broken: 2.1

Description of the incident: I was a runner, another alien asked on the hivemind if we can kill armed hosts, a second later the queen permitted harming of hosts which obviously means yes, then I killed a survivor that had a knife and then Feweh told me I killed an unarmed host and blamed me for doing it, yet the queen clearly allowed it. Then he ghosted my alien for no reason and I wasn't able to play for the time being.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): https://gyazo.com/1de1553b6a88ff407d8c48c789151fd1

How you would punish the accused: Stuff like this pisses me off when the mods can't decide properly. I would punish him by removing his mod status for a few days and making him read the rules....

You killed TWO survivors.

One armed with a circular saw and the other armed with a butcher's knife. After the were disabled of the weapons you dragged them away and finished them off completely all while the other runner was yelling "stop killing".

I spoke to the Queen about it and she said she authorized you harming armed hosts, however once the survivors were dis-armed and away from their weapons you just continued going at it. You are trying to justify your actions because they had melee weapons.. yet you furthered killed them even when they were dis-armed and another runner was yelling at you to stop.

Let's be honest here, there's never ANY reason to kill survivors as they are easy to infect, especially on the prison map when they have no ranged weapons.
After looking over your notes, you have a history of this behavior. You were slayed/killed for disobeying the Queen and given a warning for your actions.

Example of the ending combat logs for one of the survivors;
[10:46:51] Attacked Runner (450) (laimingass) with butcher's cleaver (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE) = null
[10:47:12] was attacked by Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:13] was attacked by Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:14] was attacked by Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:15] bit Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:16] was attacked by Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:17] was attacked by Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:18] was attacked by Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:24] was attacked by Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:32] Hit Runner (450) (laimingass) with a thrown the butcher's cleaver = null
[10:47:38] was attacked by Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:39] bit Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:40] was attacked by Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:41] was attacked by Runner (450) (laimingass) = null
[10:47:44] bit Runner (450) (laimingass) = null

You can see him get attacked once with the butcher knife while he's running, he ends up throwing the knife and becoming dis-armed.. however Laimingass goes in to kill him despite being un-armed.

Furthermore the other Runner asking him to stop killing and you ignoring him "just because'.

Runner (314) (follow) hisses, "Stop"
Unknown gasps!
LOOC: Unknown/(Narciss_f): GG
Runner (314) (follow) hisses, "You kill him"
Moderator PM to-Narciss_f/(Alexey Brodsky)(?): going to double check
Runner (450) (follow) hisses, "Queen permits it"

[ChickenShizNit8]

I witnessed this. I was the third survivor present and watched them get pounced, dis-armed and slashed to utter shit as I ran away.

[Laimingass]

You killed TWO survivors.

One armed with a circular saw and the other armed with a butcher's knife. After the were disabled of the weapons you dragged them away and finished them off completely all while the other runner was yelling "stop killing".

I spoke to the Queen about it and she said she authorized you harming armed hosts, however once the survivors were dis-armed and away from their weapons you just continued going at it. You are trying to justify your actions because they had melee weapons.. yet you furthered killed them even when they were dis-armed and another runner was yelling at you to stop.

Let's be honest here, there's never ANY reason to kill survivors as they are easy to infect, especially on the prison map when they have no ranged weapons.
After looking over your notes, you have a history of this behavior. You were slayed/killed for disobeying the Queen and given a warning for your actions.

I killed ONE survivor, the other one wasn' finished by me. And the notes are probably old because the only recent notes i had was a job ban. And It's entirely your fault for not being able to handle the situation properly and talk it over with me, instead you went "I'm right, your not." and went full salt and just ignored me, ghosted me, and gave me a warning. 0/10 of an admin you are sir

tl;dr You're a retard without any common sense.

[SASoperative]

Your history with doing things like this is very very bad.... You have been known to manipulate the rules. Killing survivors is NEVER A GOOD IDEA unless its 100% NECESSARY. You basicly did some harm to the aliens by not allowing them to get an extra two aliens by simply face hugging the survivors. Survivors do after all have no hugger protection and can be easily infected and dragged back considering they are basicly always unarmed .Its impossible for a survivor to obtain anything with severe firepower without getting incredibly close to the hive. Let alone impossible for a survivor to obtain any item seriously capable of hurting you guys apart from 2 m41as a pistol and a grenade launcher

[Laimingass]

I still blame the queen, I didn't feel like it was wrong killing the survivors since the queen allowed it.

[SASoperative]

I still blame the queen, I didn't feel like it was wrong killing the survivors since the queen allowed it.

You can not blame someone else for the actions that YOU did. You killed those survivors. Saying that you could have harmed hosts did not mean that you HAD TO. This is half of your problem right here. You are failing to take responsibility to the fact that you killed something and than are now trying to put the blame on someone who simply gave you the permissions to do so when you see fit?

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

I still blame the queen, I didn't feel like it was wrong killing the survivors since the queen allowed it.

While I think it was a bit much of Feweh to ghost you, I think it's heavily obvious you had your own killcount in mind over the expansion and success of your own team.


The Queen is not at fault here. You really have nobody to blame but yourself in this situation.

[Jack McIntyre]

If I may also be bold to point out I suggest you don't insult staff which I see in one of your messages. It even states the first rule to remain respectful. I would highly suggest if you are still upset by this you take a little break to cool off and come back and continue this.

[apophis775]

Yeah... Denied and locked.

Reason:

Analysis of logs and witnesses proves no wrongdoing occurred on the admin side.