Not even salty, buuuuut...

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Not even salty, buuuuut...

Post by Azmodan412 » 20 Apr 2016, 21:08

Your Byond Key: Azmodan412

Your Character Name: Tyler 'One-Eye' Borealis, formerly Tyler 'Thanatos' Borealis

Accused Byond Key(if known): Unknown

Character Name: Casca 'Legs' Dergens

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): Unknown of the time, somewhere about 2044 Eastern Standard time, 1944 Central Standard Time.

What rule(s) were broken: Griefing (?), and/or Lethal Force/Job Rules

Description of the incident: I was patrolling the ship going aft as the Commander that round and saw Casca building barricades. Any retreat from cafeteria and beyond would have been cut off due to the barricades so I accidentally nudged Casca. The nudge forced the plasteel against the wall and Casca was irritated. Insults were hurled and I was just instantly shot in the chest and hard-critted by her shotgun. I would have died if medical staff were not on the bridge.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): Releasing has a screenshot, I don't.

How you would punish the accused: I honestly don't know. A stern talking to or a note maybe?
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Predator Duels Won: 1
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BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
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Re: Not even salty, buuuuut...

Post by Westhybrid » 20 Apr 2016, 21:19

I'll look into it.
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Post by Azmodan412 » 20 Apr 2016, 21:27

I really don't care if there is a punishment or not. I'm not really a salty person.
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Predator Duels Won: 1
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BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
43 Xenos and counting.

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Post by TR-BlackDragon » 20 Apr 2016, 21:30

Huh why didn't you ahelp during the round? I was the one who patched you up in game

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Post by Azmodan412 » 20 Apr 2016, 21:32

I did Ahelp.
The ahelp in a nutshell because I can't for the life of me remember: Um... I was shot and put into hardcrit.
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BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
43 Xenos and counting.

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Re: Not even salty, buuuuut...

Post by TR-BlackDragon » 20 Apr 2016, 21:36

Really.... hmm did you do it while you were being worked on by a doc?

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Post by Azmodan412 » 20 Apr 2016, 21:40

TR-BlackDragon wrote:Really.... hmm did you do it while you were being worked on by a doc?
Right as I was shot.
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BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
43 Xenos and counting.

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Post by TR-BlackDragon » 20 Apr 2016, 21:49

Hmmmmmmmmmmm I must of stepped away for a moment to get a drink. Though I wasn't the only staff online at the time it happened. I though it was just friendly fire

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Post by Gelonvia » 20 Apr 2016, 22:17

You do realize that was an Accidental Fire right? I went to repull up the Sheets for Plasteel in hopes that I could replace a new Plasteel sheet and instead accidently shot you while I was typing. I still don't feel bad though as to quote Apop. "People who push others we can all agree are assholes." because of the plasteel being pushed in a different direction I was unable to secure the doorway before the retreat from the killbox and I cant even deconstruct it to re-use the barricade.

I apologize that you accidently got shot, but please use your mouth in the future to ask for /anyone/ to move.

PS: Because Casca is shouting and frustrated ICly doesn't mean I am. ICly she has her life on the lines, ever step and second of her work counts so to see the Commander fuck her and the team over by randomly pushing people is frustrating for her.
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Post by Gelonvia » 20 Apr 2016, 22:18

Gelonvia wrote:You do realize that was an Accidental Fire right? I went to repull up the Sheets for Plasteel in hopes that I could replace a new Plasteel sheet and instead accidently shot you while I was typing. I still don't feel bad though as to quote Apop. "People who push others we can all agree are assholes." because of the plasteel being pushed in a different direction I was unable to secure the doorway before the retreat from the killbox and I cant even deconstruct it to re-use the barricade.

I apologize that you accidently got shot, but please use your mouth in the future to ask for /anyone/ to move.

PS: Because Casca is shouting and frustrated ICly doesn't mean I am. ICly she has her life on the lines, ever step and second of her work counts so to see the Commander fuck her and the team over by randomly pushing people is frustrating for her.
To add to this, next time, just ask in LOOC if its on purpose or not, or just /ahelp/ the Staff so they can clear it up. Theres a button right there for you to use.
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Post by Azmodan412 » 20 Apr 2016, 22:22

May be, but you would have had to wield your shotgun and fire if you were building barricades.
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Predator Duels Won: 1
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BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
43 Xenos and counting.

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Post by Gelonvia » 20 Apr 2016, 22:31

I work off of macro's and Hotkeys to quicken my reflex's and ingame reaction time. Shit happens some times, as someone who has nothing to gain from shooting someone who has a Smartgun who she needs there to protect her own butt while Xeno's are baring down on her, I wouldn't ever intentionally shoot you. You could have easily asked about it in LOOC and I could have explained it was an Accident.

Afterall if I /really/ wanted to hurt you, I would have kept shooting more then once, not just fire once. Hell, I accidently shoot people once or twice because I was swinging at weeds and then the person would walk infront of me, then I have to waste my medicine to fix them up. In this case I didn't treat you because I didn't have any medicine, and I was needed to patch up the door to hold off the enemies while Terrel and Bill, and the PMC counted on me to build.
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Post by Gelonvia » 20 Apr 2016, 22:32

Now to quote Rahlzel,

"90% of marine deaths is from marines themselves. They're their own worst enemy."
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Post by Azmodan412 » 20 Apr 2016, 22:34

Via friendly fire in conflict.
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Post by Gelonvia » 20 Apr 2016, 22:39

Azmodan412 wrote:Via friendly fire in conflict.
Exactly, it happens so much too. Like the marines that walk infront of you while you are swinging at weeds as one example. Or people who stand infront of your sniper LOF.
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Post by Azmodan412 » 20 Apr 2016, 22:42

The moment we are talking about is not even in conflict.
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Post by Gelonvia » 20 Apr 2016, 22:50

It was in conflict hun, we had a Ravager/Praetorian/Boiler/Carrier/Sentinel all in the room next to us fighting others. Add to that the West was entirely exposed with no protection between the Main Ladders and us, which is why we're fighting back when the entire Sulaco is under siege. So when the Sulaco is under siege, thats conflict. Being on the ground fighting? Thats conflict. And I can tell you now, with how close we could see Ravagers even with my welding goggles which were down, I could see the ravagers and runners running back and forth at Bill and Terrel.
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Post by Azmodan412 » 20 Apr 2016, 22:51

I heard them in the hallway easily.
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Post by Gelonvia » 20 Apr 2016, 22:52

Gelonvia wrote:It was in conflict hun, we had a Ravager/Praetorian/Boiler/Carrier/Sentinel all in the room next to us fighting others. Add to that the West was entirely exposed with no protection between the Main Ladders and us, which is why we're fighting back when the entire Sulaco is under siege. So when the Sulaco is under siege, thats conflict. Being on the ground fighting? Thats conflict. And I can tell you now, with how close we could see Ravagers even with my welding goggles which were down, I could see the ravagers and runners running back and forth at Bill and Terrel.
Heres my Question for you Azmo, what would I even gain from shooting you?
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Post by Westhybrid » 21 Apr 2016, 01:13

While this is nice, if you could refrain from arguing with eachother on this thread, I'd appreciate it. I'll come to a conclusion in my report by tomorrow. Until then, let's keep this report cleaner. Gracias.
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Post by Gelonvia » 21 Apr 2016, 03:52

We're arguing? I consider it us talking it out maturly and communicating, which is something I am proud of to have someone who is willing to do. I can see why it would feel that way from an outside view but this is both me and Azmodan, however Azmodan, if you feel as if it was an arguement please let me know so I can reflect on where it would have started, alright?

Either way, to lighten up the mood, this was an event on the day of CM's Birthday, Apop and Abby spawned CHIMP-70's for the few last standing humans and it was just beautiful.

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Post by Westhybrid » 21 Apr 2016, 04:29

Gelonvia wrote:We're arguing? I consider it us talking it out maturly and communicating, which is something I am proud of to have someone who is willing to do. I can see why it would feel that way from an outside view but this is both me and Azmodan, however Azmodan, if you feel as if it was an arguement please let me know so I can reflect on where it would have started, alright?

Either way, to lighten up the mood, this was an event on the day of CM's Birthday, Apop and Abby spawned CHIMP-70's for the few last standing humans and it was just beautiful.

http://i.imgur.com/FrofMiI.png
Let me rephrase. Cluttering. You are cluttering the report. I can get to the root of the issue fine without you and Azmodan doing one-line posts and double posts like it's the mini-chat.
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Post by Westhybrid » 21 Apr 2016, 04:50

[19:05:44]SAY: Casca 'Legs' Orivanna/Gelonvia : YOU DUMBASS
[19:05:47]SAY: Tyler 'One-Eye' Borealis/Azmodan412 : You are cutting that side off.
[19:05:50]ATTACK: Casca 'Legs' Orivanna (gelonvia) shot Tyler 'One-Eye' Borealis (azmodan412) with a the shotgun slug
[19:05:51]EMOTE: Tyler 'One-Eye' Borealis/Azmodan412 : <B>Tyler 'One-Eye' Borealis</B> screams!
[19:06:00]SAY: Casca 'Legs' Orivanna/Gelonvia : YOURE GOING TO GET US KILLED NOW
[19:06:09]SAY: Tyler 'One-Eye' Borealis/Azmodan412 : And you are cutting that side off.
[19:06:15]SAY: Tyler 'One-Eye' Borealis/Azmodan412 : Legs just shot me in the chest.
[19:07:39]ADMIN: HELP: Azmodan412/(Tyler 'One-Eye' Borealis): So... I was shot and am dying because I screwed up plasteel building. - heard by 3 non-AFK admins.


So this is what I could piece together. There's not much I can tell as to whether or not Gel's shot was intentional or not. Probably wasn't, considering she's not exactly toxic, but even then if this was handled in-game as it should've been, you might've been noted for it.

Since this is just a passive report to begin with, I'll leave it with this: Azmodan, if you're in the same sort of ballpark of pushing people, better to use your words first. It could lead to you getting accidentally or intentionally shot by Gelonvia. Gel, work on your macros or your trigger finger, because if that had gotten roleplayed out properly you would've been shot dead for slugging your CO into hard-crit. And if the active staff actually were paying attention you would've gotten a harsher punishment.

Adding it as a warning to Gel's notes. Report resolved and locked.
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Post by TR-BlackDragon » 24 Apr 2016, 00:02

Moved.

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