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Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by qsleepy » 16 Jun 2016, 10:00

Your Byond Key:
qsleepy
Your Character Name:
jamari
Their Byond key:
dont care
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central Us Time for best results):


Which Admin Protocols (viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5647) were broken:
Do not abuse your power
1. This should go without saying, but abusing your power as staff can - and will - result in swift punishment.

Feweh saw it was me and locked it.


2.Ensure that all incidents are adequately investigated before giving a ruling.

"sure, in the picture you can clearly see the face hugger is attached, the character is nested and critical, but do you think you could provide more details as to what rule was broken? We super duper can't figure it out!"

3.This also applies to the forums. Retain some level of professionalism when posting in player reports or ban appeals.

"I would look into this clear and easy violation of one of our easiest rules to follow, but I'm lazy. Thread locked! : 3"


Description of the incident:
http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=7496

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
https://i.sli.mg/EirA8H.png

How you would punish the accused:
Ban them from responding to player reports.



EXTRA CREDIT - It's summer for most of America's children. I am SURE there are like twenty twelve-year olds here willing to do actual investigations and actually be on the server from time to time. It would take me ten minutes to teach some 14-year old how to look at server logs. I take my time to screenshot these people so they don't ruin it for other people and last time Feweh told me there is nobody to look at a server log for literally the better part of 20 seconds.
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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by VenomBH » 16 Jun 2016, 10:06

It's not rule breaking, if you get out from your nest and start shooting xenos, and they see you as a threat they CAN act lethally.
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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by qsleepy » 16 Jun 2016, 10:11

Slashing a nested and hugged host in the head isn't rule breaking? What does this say, then, derpy?


>Do not Kill infected hosts (once they have the icon) if they are defenseless or nested (Killing a nested host at ANY TIME is a bannable offense, and don't un-nest just to kill). It's counter-productive to your cause of growing the hive. If a marine escapes the nest and uses a weapon to resist, THEN you may kill them, but you should try to tackle and nest them. Remember: The more hosts you get and keep alive, the more aliens you get. EXCEPTION: The queen MAY kill any marine she wants at any time, provided she has an RP justification (if asked by the admins). This power does NOT extend to aliens following the queens orders.


Clearly from the picture I was nested, talking and infected with good health, head slash to crit. See? Aren't pictures better than empty words?
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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by Ocnjak20 » 16 Jun 2016, 10:57

qsleepy wrote:Slashing a nested and hugged host in the head isn't rule breaking? What does this say, then, derpy?


>Do not Kill infected hosts (once they have the icon) if they are defenseless or nested (Killing a nested host at ANY TIME is a bannable offense, and don't un-nest just to kill). It's counter-productive to your cause of growing the hive. If a marine escapes the nest and uses a weapon to resist, THEN you may kill them, but you should try to tackle and nest them. Remember: The more hosts you get and keep alive, the more aliens you get. EXCEPTION: The queen MAY kill any marine she wants at any time, provided she has an RP justification (if asked by the admins). This power does NOT extend to aliens following the queens orders.


Clearly from the picture I was nested, talking and infected with good health, head slash to crit. See? Aren't pictures better than empty words?
Actually, they did nothing wrong. You are the one who is wrong as in you have said that you are too lazy to describe it in detail and that is why it was locked. After being told by an Admin Investigator and Head Mod to clarify those details and which you have not because apparently you are "lazy" they did not want to investigate it further and have taken it up as troll report probably.

This report is also an troll report, by someone who is salty as fuck and wants to see other people burn. You were face hugged and killed, big deal it happens here and then and people get banned. If you didnt report it instantly IG then its your fault, instead you took it to the forums with so low amount of information and details just to expect them to treat you like normal player that actually takes time to fill their form and give enough details?

Sorry, you have been here approx over an year yet you have no clue how things work. Be happy that they even bother with reply on this. If you were nested, broke free and begun shooting them, then they have nested you again it might be legit if the Queen has given her order to kill you. Dont be salty, provide more details and dont be salty dick, have a fine day.

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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by qsleepy » 16 Jun 2016, 11:19

>Actually, they did nothing wrong. You are the one who is wrong as in you have said that you are too lazy to describe it in detail and that is why it was locked

I never said I was too lazy, learn to read. He said he was too lazy to look at the log and confirm what the picture says.

How does, "Do not slash infected or defenseless hosts" and I was BOTH of them, with good health no combat on screen slashed to crit. What other possibility could there be?


There isn't. Just a complete lack of professionalism. Took him longer to message me than it would have been to look at the logs.


>This report is also an troll report


This person disagrees with me, TROLL! TROOOOOL! Shut up.
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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by qsleepy » 16 Jun 2016, 11:22

Lets deduce this picture so everyone can figure out what is shown here.



Player report - Slashed while nested and infected, laying in nest talking WITH HEAD HUGGER STILL ATTACHED (lol I love how everyone keeps avoiding this) when head is slashed by a runner.


Let's try again.


Laying on my back, on a nest with a hugger on my face, TALKING TO MY TEAM ON THE MIC, GET SLASHED IN HEAD BY RUNNER.


IS anyone else having a problem now? I love all the responses from the feweh fan club, but if someone could actually look into the admin rule broken;

2.Ensure that all incidents are adequately investigated before giving a ruling.

and

Do not abuse your power
1. This should go without saying, but abusing your power as staff can - and will - result in swift punishment. (locking the thread so I can't point out how someone with two sets of working eyes should ban that runner)


and

3.This also applies to the forums. Retain some level of professionalism when posting in player reports or ban appeals.

He said he wanted more info that doesn't exist because he was, "lazy".


Last player report I sent Feweh told me there was nobody to look at the game logs. Lol. That's why this report was made. Cry harder, fans.



Lets examine the rule again, as well.

"Do not Kill infected hosts (once they have the icon) if they are defenseless or nested (Killing a nested host at ANY TIME is a bannable offense, and don't un-nest just to kill)"
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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by SASoperative » 16 Jun 2016, 12:56

qsleepy wrote: Laying on my back, on a nest with a hugger on my face, TALKING TO MY TEAM ON THE MIC, GET SLASHED IN HEAD BY RUNNER.


Before you say anything I honestly dislike feweh with a decent passion but let me stop you right there and be someone who had the decency of looking at the rules for about 5 seconds to just simply post this

Rule 0.2 NO OUT OF GAME COMMUNICATION DURING ROUNDS IN PRIVATE ROOMS OR CHATS. This has come up more and more frequently with people making more and more channels and private groups. If it's discovered, we'll do our best to shut it down. If you DO want to talk to players about CM or have chats about CM, we have an Unofficial Discord located here: https://discordapp.com/channels/1503155 ... 7943130112 . Otherwise, if I hear about skype/private discords/chats, I have to shut it down. Too often, it ends up being party-rooms where people meta and discuss current round-in-progress rounds.

I am just going to leave that there and let you figure it out on your own time.
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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by Ocnjak20 » 16 Jun 2016, 12:58

qsleepy wrote:Lets deduce this picture so everyone can figure out what is shown here.



Player report - Slashed while nested and infected, laying in nest talking WITH HEAD HUGGER STILL ATTACHED (lol I love how everyone keeps avoiding this) when head is slashed by a runner.


Let's try again.


Laying on my back, on a nest with a hugger on my face, TALKING TO MY TEAM ON THE MIC, GET SLASHED IN HEAD BY RUNNER.


IS anyone else having a problem now? I love all the responses from the feweh fan club, but if someone could actually look into the admin rule broken;

2.Ensure that all incidents are adequately investigated before giving a ruling.

and

Do not abuse your power
1. This should go without saying, but abusing your power as staff can - and will - result in swift punishment. (locking the thread so I can't point out how someone with two sets of working eyes should ban that runner)


and

3.This also applies to the forums. Retain some level of professionalism when posting in player reports or ban appeals.

He said he wanted more info that doesn't exist because he was, "lazy".


Last player report I sent Feweh told me there was nobody to look at the game logs. Lol. That's why this report was made. Cry harder, fans.



Lets examine the rule again, as well.

"Do not Kill infected hosts (once they have the icon) if they are defenseless or nested (Killing a nested host at ANY TIME is a bannable offense, and don't un-nest just to kill)"

Lets examine this topic for a while, so yeah you get nuked by it completely and your complaint is nulified when it comes to whining, and no I am not in Feweh fan club or anything like that since I do have common sense and am not some guy who is so pathetic to ask for attention. Their decision is FINAL. And that is all you have to know.

http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7378 Please read everything that is announced on forums before BS-ing about abuse and stuff like that. And when it comes to Aliens killing you? They probably had a good and legit reason for it if nobody got banned. Your behavior is the issue here and you being salty as well as attention demanding little child. Also do not forget, you are playing there and nobody is forcing you to stay, all of the staff members volounteer to do it. Don't like it leave, at least there wont be as much lag on the server.

And yeah I think that is banable offense and you cant talk IG since you've had face hugger on your face. Seems like from appeal it might result in ban when you talk to someone on private chat. Metagaming and such, you know. Not allowed.

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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by Feweh » 16 Jun 2016, 13:08

qsleepy wrote:>Also I'm lazy.

Don't worry about it. Don't know why I even bothered, was against my better judgement.
Your report was closed for the above reason.
You not only refused to answer my investigators question but you ALSO stated "Don't worry about it".

We do not have the time or man-power to chase after players for information. When you're asked a question regarding your report, respond to it.
It is my job and position to determine which reports, appeals and topics need to be resolved. I read what was posted and made a decision to close the report due to your being "lazy" and giving my investigator a hard time.

Now further more we have a new policy towards false complaints and general toxic attitudes.
You'll receive the following ban, as there is no basis or logic behind the report. You and you alone created this whole "abuse of power", "improper investigation" and "Remain Professional"

Abuse of Power - It is within my power and job description to deal with reports.
Improper Investigation - Ord was attempting to investigate the report and you weren't assisting.
Remain Professional - Not once did anyone of us insult you or display any means of unprofessional-ism.

This is what you're being banned under, understand it and when you return you will be under probation for 1month.
Attitudes and behaviors like this will no longer be tolerated from players. I will leave this open and not forum ban you so APOP can acknowledge this post, however your in-game ban will begin now.

5. Intentionally False complaints (as in, complaints with no evidence, complaints that are lies, or complaints made to try and witchhunt) against players or admins will result in a 1 week server ban, and 3 day forum ban. Complaints can take 30 minutes to several HOURS to investigate, and if you provide literally 0 evidence other than "WELL THIS HAPPENED" it takes even longer. So complaints that are determined "intentionally false" in the end, will receive a short forum ban.


If you have any questions, feel free to ask here before your forum ban begins.

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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by Rahlzel » 16 Jun 2016, 13:14

As per viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7378, coming here with salty/false/lazy reports now has consequences.

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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by Derpislav » 16 Jun 2016, 13:15

He did not admit to metacomms. He meant talking to Bravo over his character's headset. The mentioned message is visible in the screenshot he provided.

But with that out of the way, yes, this report is wrong. There are thousands of things that could have possibly happened in the timeframe not captured by a single screenshot, and the person investigating a report must know them/if there are any to deal with the situation.
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Re: Feweh and ordukia or whatever

Post by apophis775 » 16 Jun 2016, 17:44

I agree with the other report being locked. You need to properly fill out the form, not just throw pictures in (those go under evidence). If it's not worth your time to properly fill out, should it be worth our time to investigate?

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