Player complaint - Vincent Wardic and Jacob Stover

[Lorenzo_The_Marauder]

Your Byond Key: Lorenzo_The_Marauder

Your Character Name: Monica 'Brinks' White

Accused Byond Key(if known): N/A

Character Name: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardic And Jacob Stover

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 6:00PM - 6:45PM Central

What rule(s) were broken: Don't be a dick (Both) Lethal force (Wardic) ID Theft (Both) Do not equip armor or weapons if the sulaco hasn't been boarded/is under attack (Stover) No greifing (Wardic)

Description of the incident: Jacob stover said he would shoot anyone breaking into cargo on sight. (He had full armor and a heavy pulse rifle as a cargo tech, before the ship was boarded) He had the shutters down so nobody could order anything anyway. I walk into cargo because i need attachments, the door is open and marines are just walking in while Stover is trying to block them with the powerloader. I see that there's a ton of guns and ammo hidden behind the cargo office, stockpiled for literally no reason and i call it out over comms. Suddenly i see Vincent Wardic shoot an underbarrel grenade at a marine, and then one towards me. I run away to avoid it and he starts spraying me with his pulse rifle, i try to say something so i don't get in trouble for escalating and he just keeps shooting at me. I run behind the cargo shuttle so i can say something over comms without being murdered, Stover walks over in the mech and blocks me from one side, while Wardic comes from the other side and shoots me until i'm dead. Stover drags me over to disposals, strips my corpse, pockets my ID and tries to shoot my body out of the mass driver. (keyword "tried) The only admin on is trialmin Derpislav I ahelp once and get no response, i ahelp two more times before checking the staffwho and the trialmin left without ever giving me a response. I ghost because i can't do jack shit for my situation at this point and i notice that Wardic has a squad leader's ID with a different name on it. (Marcus Jackson)

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): I don't know how to access the logs, if i did i would take screenshots.

How you would punish the accused: Frankly i'd give Wardic a permaban, and Stover a temporary ban and a permanent jobban from cargo tech and RO.

[Varnock]

Looking in to now.

[Jaketeaking]

I was also in cargo, tried to help stop the mutiny, I was by the shuttle. I belive it may have been me that got shot at with the underbarell, because next thing I knew I was down with a fractured left leg and foot. thought I got flashed and shot. knocked unconscious, lucky there was a medic in there. I will point out that I did not have a gun out, or drawn, nor was I saying anything that could have made him think I was hostile

[Varnock]

I was also in cargo, tried to help stop the mutiny, I was by the shuttle. I belive it may have been me that got shot at with the underbarell, because next thing I knew I was down with a fractured left leg and foot. thought I got flashed and shot. knocked unconscious, lucky there was a medic in there. I will point out that I did not have a gun out, or drawn, nor was I saying anything that could have made him think I was hostile

Can I get your character name?

[Jaketeaking]

james 'patch' Alfonse, but I had an ID, Leonardo winter

[Varnock]

james 'patch' Alfonse, but I had an ID, Leonardo winter

Actually, now that I think about it, why did YOU have an ID that didn't match too?

[Varnock]

So. I'm reading the logs and from what I can tell a good deal of marines busted into Req and started stealing stuff, alongside beating up an MP.

Stover said, on multiple occasions, he'd use lethal force if people didn't get the hell out of dodge.

Stover information:

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[18:14:13]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : We're handing out two of them.
[18:14:24]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : Better keep one for our safety.

Withheld Barrel Chargers 'for their safety'. No clear reason to need one yet, the mutiny happens later. I'm going to tentatively say Meta here.

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[18:14:29]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : OH!
[18:14:31]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : The mags!
[18:14:47]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : One ammo per person.

Had AP mags for some reason, but that's fair enough since req can orbital them down. I'm more worried some were kept to be used like this other gear.

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[18:14:56]SAY: Mei Jiang/SukiYuki : Any other pulse rifles paladin?
[18:15:04]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : Yeah, one more.

Rifles confirmed to have been a thing.

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[18:29:50]SAY: Caoimhe 'Kiva' Kearney/Saeptua : Y'wanna toss Bailey's ID so I can check maint and bring it over t'the Bridge?
[18:29:58]ATTACK: Caoimhe 'Kiva' Kearney (saeptua) was hit by a Genevieve Bailey's ID Card (Maintenance Tech), thrown by Jacob 'Paladin' Stover (yacobpo157) (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=189;Y=163;Z=3'>JMP</a>)

No signs of where they got it from the logs, or if it was returned.

At somewhere around 18:30-18:40 I believe the rioting started, as this was when Stover began repeatedly requesting a loyalty squad to cleanse the ship after that point.

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[18:35:16]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : OI!
[18:35:24]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : MARINES!
[18:35:30]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!

Marines fighting with an MP named Horatio Werner, a baldie as far as I can tell, which is what started the fight alongside incompetence it sounded like.

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[18:36:18]ATTACK: Yacobpo157/(Jacob 'Paladin' Stover) disarmed John Hayter (venombh)
[18:36:28]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : That sin't your stun baton, Hayter.

Disarms Hayter to retrieve baton that I ASSUME belonged to the MP that got ganked.

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[18:38:24]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : MARINES!
[18:38:26]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : STOP!
[18:38:56]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : HE WAS TASING THE PEOPLE WHO WOULDN'T MOVE AFTER A FIGHT!
[18:39:04]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : HE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO!
[18:39:19]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : MARINES< STOP BEATING THE MP!

Attempts to verbally assist the MP.

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[18:40:13]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : As the marines are rioting, RO is now closed for further notice.
[18:40:32]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : If anyone attempts to break into RO ,you will be met with lethal force.
[18:40:41]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : YOu are a mutiny and rioters, marines.
[18:40:59]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : If you wanted shit from RO, maybe you should've thought about following marine law and being loyal to CENTCOM.
[18:41:46]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : Fuck you, follow Marine Law.

It goes on like this for a bit, Stover denying any access to RO and threatening lethal force despite someone telling them they don't have that kind of authority.

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[18:42:15]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : MP'S!
[18:42:20]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : MARINES BROKE INTO RO!
[18:42:23]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : GET OUT!
[18:42:46]ATTACK: Lorenzo_The_Marauder/(Monica 'Brinks' White) disarmed Jacob 'Paladin' Stover (yacobpo157)
[18:43:02]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : Start shooting.

Not sure why he was disarmed, maybe a missclick, maybe this was when they had the rifle out. I know the MP (Horatio) was tasing the everloving hell out of everyone in the area during this trying to stop the madness.

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[18:43:25]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : GET OUT!
[18:43:37]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : YOU WILL GET OUT OF RO, OR I WILL USE LETHAL FORCE!
[18:43:59]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : MARINES BROKE INTO RO!
[18:44:36]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : MARINES, GET OUT OF RO OR WE START SHOOTING.

At this point, Wardric had already fired TWO grenades...

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[18:45:09]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : You will desist.
[18:45:14]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : Or I will crush your skull.

Clearly the point the cargo loader was being used. Wardric and White had already been fighting at this point. Story follows logs so far.

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[18:45:35]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : SHE DEAD?
[18:45:47]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : Who cares, I'll dump her outta disposals.

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[18:49:10]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : You three.
[18:49:14]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : You three get whatever you want.
[18:49:33]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : Leanoard, I need you to repair the Ripley.
[18:50:50]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : Nothing of worth in RO, let them shit in it.

Appears to offer helpers their pick of RO after the fact, requests repairs of ripley after using it to fight the marines. Abandons it when all the useful items have been taken.

Wardic Information:

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[18:37:59]ATTACK: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (howarden) was hit by a Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric's ID Card (Bravo Squad Marine), thrown by Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (howarden) (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=164;Y=147;Z=3'>JMP</a>)

Probably when they got the other ID.

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[18:40:11]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : I took a delta radio and I've been listening in.
[18:42:36]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : GET OUT OF THERE
[18:42:47]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : GET OUT OF HERE MARINES!
[18:43:19]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : Get out
[18:43:32]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : Ya'll know you aint suppose to be in there!
[18:44:08]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : Im with you

Wardric joining Stover. Already has the ID.

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[18:44:28]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : LAST WARNING MARINES!
[18:44:31]GAME: <a href='?priv_msg=[0x5000012]'>Howarden</a>/(Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric) used an underslung grenade launcher.
[18:44:31]ATTACK: Unknown (as Leonardo Winter) (jaketeaking) was hit by a the frag grenade, thrown by Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=180;Y=171;Z=3'>JMP</a>)
[18:44:32]GAME: Explosion with size (-1, -1, 2) in area Main Cargo Bay 
[18:44:33]ATTACK: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) shot Unknown (as Leonardo Winter) (jaketeaking) with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=180;Y=168;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000f4]'>PM</a>)
[18:44:34]ATTACK: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) shot Unknown (as Leonardo Winter) (jaketeaking) with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=180;Y=168;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000f4]'>PM</a>)
[18:44:34]ATTACK: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) shot Unknown (as Leonardo Winter) (jaketeaking) with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=180;Y=168;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000f4]'>PM</a>)
[18:44:34]SAY: Monica 'Brinks' White/Lorenzo_The_Marauder : This son of a bitch has been hoarding guns and ammo
[18:44:35]EMOTE: Unknown (as Leonardo Winter)/Jaketeaking : <B>Unknown (as Leonardo Winter)</B> screams!
[18:44:35]EMOTE: Unknown (as Leonardo Winter)/Jaketeaking : <B>Unknown (as Leonardo Winter)</B> screams!
[18:44:37]GAME: <a href='?priv_msg=[0x5000012]'>Howarden</a>/(Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric) used an underslung grenade launcher.
[18:44:40]GAME: Explosion with size (-1, -1, 2) in area Main Cargo Bay 
[18:44:50]OOC: (LOCAL) Unknown (as Leonardo Winter)/Jaketeaking : FUCKER, I WAS HERE TO HELP DEFEND
[18:44:53]ATTACK: Monica 'Brinks' White (lorenzothemarauder) shot Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) with a the revolver bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=188;Y=179;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000c0]'>PM</a>)
[18:45:11]ATTACK: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) shot Monica 'Brinks' White (lorenzothemarauder) with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=183;Y=179;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000f4]'>PM</a>)
[18:45:12]ATTACK: Monica 'Brinks' White (lorenzothemarauder) shot Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) with a the revolver bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=188;Y=179;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000c0]'>PM</a>)
[18:45:14]ATTACK: Monica 'Brinks' White (lorenzothemarauder) shot Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) with a the revolver bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=188;Y=179;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000c0]'>PM</a>)
[18:45:16]ATTACK: Monica 'Brinks' White (lorenzothemarauder) shot Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) with a the revolver bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=188;Y=179;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000c0]'>PM</a>)
[18:45:16]EMOTE: Monica 'Brinks' White/Lorenzo_The_Marauder : <B>Monica 'Brinks' White</B> screams!
[18:45:17]ATTACK: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) shot Monica 'Brinks' White (lorenzothemarauder) with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=183;Y=179;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000f4]'>PM</a>)
[18:45:18]ATTACK: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) shot Monica 'Brinks' White (lorenzothemarauder) with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=181;Y=179;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000f4]'>PM</a>)
[18:45:18]GAME: Lorenzo_The_Marauder/(Monica 'Brinks' White) shot fueltank at Main Cargo Bay (175,179,3).
[18:45:18]EMOTE: Monica 'Brinks' White/Lorenzo_The_Marauder : <B>Monica 'Brinks' White</B> screams!
[18:45:20]ATTACK: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) shot Monica 'Brinks' White (lorenzothemarauder) with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=181;Y=179;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000f4]'>PM</a>)
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The combat, Wardric fighting White.

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[18:45:35]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : SHE DEAD?
[18:45:42]ATTACK: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson) (howarden) shot Monica 'Brinks' White (lorenzothemarauder) with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=186;Y=179;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x30000f4]'>PM</a>)
[18:45:44]ATTACK: Howarden/(Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric) attacked Lorenzo_The_Marauder/(Monica 'Brinks' White) with M41A Pulse Rifle (Wielded) (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[18:45:47]SAY: Jacob 'Paladin' Stover/Yacobpo157 : Who cares, I'll dump her outta disposals.
[18:47:24]EMOTE: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : <B>Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)</B> 's body becomes limp.
[18:46:55]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : G-G-Get any painkillers left?

Has taken heavy damage at this point, requests painkillers from Stover, even asking if they had any left, meaning they had some in the first place.

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[18:48:48]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : Sorry about that Winter/
[18:48:53]SAY: Vincent 'Gunner' Wardric (as Marcus Jackson)/Howarden : I didn't know who was what.

For the record, he did apologize to Winter.

Collaborating evidence:

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[18:45:18]ADMIN: HELP: Saeptua/(Caoimhe 'Kiva' Kearney): Someone want to handle the bullshit mutiny in Req or should I just start killing people for the CT? - heard by 0 non-AFK admins.
[18:45:23]ADMIN: HELP: Lorenzo_The_Marauder/(Monica 'Brinks' White): Well vincent wardric just started shooting people - heard by 0 non-AFK admins.[/spoil]

This was all relevant information I could find with the names I had.

There was most definitely a mutiny of SOME sort in Req. Wardric fought the marines off, Stover seems to have just been assisting in the Ripley. Marines definitely overpowered the MP that was trying to contain things too, even if they weren't doing a very good job until they started tasing all over the place.

Honestly I'd say the story follows logs pretty much exactly. White didn't start fighting back until after Wardric unloaded multiple grenades into marines.

I'll try to get in contact with the accused for their side of things.

[Lorenzo_The_Marauder]

Yeah that disarm on stover WAS a misclick, i was trying to disarm horatio because he was tazing everyone in the canteen. I didn't take part in basically what was his lynching, but i heard about it over comms and i went to check it out.

[Yacobpo157]

Hello, I am Jacob 'Paladin' Stover. After being attacked by various marines when I came to help the MP in the Escape Pod area, I retreated into RO. Various loyalist marines came to my aid, of which I helped them to the same equipment that can be found in marine prep, as the RO before leaving ordered several Weland Yutani firearm crates. We eventually got Heavy Pulse Rifles, so we rationed them out to the marines. We had stockpiled the other firearms to hand-out to the Researcher and Staff upon (valid) request. I was already in marine ballistic armor as roughly two, maybe three, xenomorphs bursted and started harassing the Sulaco. We warned her several times, as shown thank you Varnock, that w warned them all several times. I was fearing a Death Squad, so I was following MOTHER's words by the letter. Now about her ID card, I took her USCM uniform off, there-by also taking her ID off. And at the time I was acting with the intention of holding RO. So I went and spaced her body via disposals after writing down what happened to later give to the MP to lodge the manslaughter. Then the aliens started boarding, so I abandoned RO. Now, as I was wanting to NOT have to fight anyone, I was using the Ripley to intimidate the intruding marines. This worked on all but one person, so I crushed her when she opened fire on one of the loyalists...AFTER warning her. Now, we were all at fault during this, however I acted under the best of intentions for a loyalist Sulaco. I'm open to punishment for all parties involved as we did go against minor rules. However, I'd prefer that no one get's anything too extraneous as this was also RP'ed to an extent and each side, also to an extent, as enjoying themselves and were content with the roleplay of the break-in. I'm sorry for ending the round so quickly for you, but you also deserved it.

Semper Fidelis, Vigilo Confido,
For the United America's!

[Jaketeaking]

if i may, you don't explain why you attempted to kill me, when I said I was there to help.

Actually, now that I think about it, why did YOU have an ID that didn't match too?

Right, The ID business. Essentially, swapped ID with an underpants wearing ghosted engineer. figured, didn't wanna be a regular marine, here was a role that needed filling, he wasn't coming back, so why not. I realise this may be against certain rules, and I accept responsibilities for my actions.

[Lorenzo_The_Marauder]

Regardless of what /I/ did, you still broke rules and i didn't. IC rules? Maybe. But i sure as hell didn't break any server rules like you and the other guy did. (All in all that whole round was a shitshow, but there's no way in hell that I'm in the wrong in this situation)

[Varnock]

Hello, I am Jacob 'Paladin' Stover. After being attacked by various marines when I came to help the MP in the Escape Pod area, I retreated into RO. Various loyalist marines came to my aid, of which I helped them to the same equipment that can be found in marine prep, as the RO before leaving ordered several Weland Yutani firearm crates. We eventually got Heavy Pulse Rifles, so we rationed them out to the marines. We had stockpiled the other firearms to hand-out to the Researcher and Staff upon (valid) request. I was already in marine ballistic armor as roughly two, maybe three, xenomorphs bursted and started harassing the Sulaco. We warned her several times, as shown thank you Varnock, that w warned them all several times. I was fearing a Death Squad, so I was following MOTHER's words by the letter. Now about her ID card, I took her USCM uniform off, there-by also taking her ID off. And at the time I was acting with the intention of holding RO. So I went and spaced her body via disposals after writing down what happened to later give to the MP to lodge the manslaughter. Then the aliens started boarding, so I abandoned RO. Now, as I was wanting to NOT have to fight anyone, I was using the Ripley to intimidate the intruding marines. This worked on all but one person, so I crushed her when she opened fire on one of the loyalists...AFTER warning her. Now, we were all at fault during this, however I acted under the best of intentions for a loyalist Sulaco. I'm open to punishment for all parties involved as we did go against minor rules. However, I'd prefer that no one get's anything too extraneous as this was also RP'ed to an extent and each side, also to an extent, as enjoying themselves and were content with the roleplay of the break-in. I'm sorry for ending the round so quickly for you, but you also deserved it.

Semper Fidelis, Vigilo Confido,
For the United America's!

So I can't see a single combat log involving you OUTSIDE of the disarm made by White and the disarm you preformed against Hayter. Also the log from the thrown ID, but that hardly counts.

[Varnock]

if i may, you don't explain why you attempted to kill me, when I said I was there to help. Right, The ID business. Essentially, swapped ID with an underpants wearing ghosted engineer. figured, didn't wanna be a regular marine, here was a role that needed filling, he wasn't coming back, so why not. I realise this may be against certain rules, and I accept responsibilities for my actions.

That is indeed against the rules, but I think a warning will suffice for now. If more action is needed it will be brought up when someone higher up takes a look at this thread.

[Lorenzo_The_Marauder]

And this was before the xenos accessed the dropship console, it was blue alert and non marine personnel are not allowed to have weapons of any kind until red alert.

Also you'll notice when i brought up the huge stockpile of weapons hidden in the cargo bay, if anything YOU were fueling a mutiny by not cooperating with the marines and attempting to separate everyone into "loyalists" and "enemies". You were a cargo tech with zero authority over anyone attempting to give people orders and not giving people the equipment that they wanted, it's you're fault this mutiny shit got as bad as it did.

[Saeptua]

So, biding in with my two cents since I was around for most of the round, and involved in the situation (collaborating evidence):

Genevieve's ID

Genevieve was a bald and new player whom joined the server for the sake of what, after observation, appeared to be griefing. They may have been related to a prior case of a bald player attempting to kill people with a shotgun that was out of ammunition by forcing it to click. When they were killed, they were eventually cloned, but ghosted completely - the ID was not restored given they were ghosted at the time of reception as far as I knew. It was utilized for maintenance access, and proper engineering access.

Werner's ID

Werner was a problem-starting MP that effectively just started popping shots with his taser and beating people around the time of this all happening. It resulted in what was effectively a non-administrated Mutiny (the Trial Administrator, Derpislav, bailed out on the situation, perhaps due to stress? I'm uncertain) where players engaged Requisitions and Military Police.

Requisition's Stockpiling

This mess all began when Derpislav (Lockie 'Red' Hughes, RO) decided to deny a Squad Medic their right to a Black Market Crate shotgun, last I recall, and they stockpiled several weapons after the fact. This did become permissible as multiple marines bursted and resulted in a small handful of xenomorphs raising hell on the Sulaco - but this happened even a good bit before the fact. I wasn't there for the M41AE2 gathering and passing out.

Overall, this round was chock full of never-ending bullshit, and I'm surprised nobody made a report about the Chief Engineer, Ethan Melekey (?) whom elected to bolt and cut power to the pods, as well as electrifying several airlocks, much rather the mess in Requisitions that happened due to multiple events in the round, pardon my french.

[Varnock]

Can confirm the pods were also bolted and cut from a log I saw while investigating. If you want me to hunt it down again, just ask, but that's probably for a different investigation.

[Mech__Warrior]

So, biding in with my two cents since I was around for most of the round, and involved in the situation (collaborating evidence):

Genevieve's ID Werner's ID Requisition's Stockpiling Overall, this round was chock full of never-ending bullshit, and I'm surprised nobody made a report about the Chief Engineer, Ethan Melekey (?) whom elected to bolt and cut power to the pods, as well as electrifying several airlocks, much rather the mess in Requisitions that happened due to multiple events in the round, pardon my french.

I kind of remember what happened, if this helps the case at all. I was a medic that went to the RO for a .44 magnum stock when I saw a bald MT (Who was Genevieve) run up to some marines who were arguing outside of the RO before he opened fire on the three of them. This caused a fight to break out. I picked up an AR from somewhere before putting myself between them and him, and I shot Genevieve in the face five times, killing him. Derpislav tried controlling the chaos that broke out by ghosting out of his character's body and closing the RO. Horatio (The bald security guard) tried to intervene and get the marines under control, but they all claimed he was another baldie and ganged up on him. I ended up passing out for some reason and a friendly marine dragged me to the canteen before shit really hit the fan. It was at this point where I decided that the planet that was infested with xenos was much safer than the ship I was on, and got on the pod to the FoB.

[Feweh]

Can confirm the pods were also bolted and cut from a log I saw while investigating. If you want me to hunt it down again, just ask, but that's probably for a different investigation.

What is your final verdict on this for each individual involved and you SUGGESTED bans/job bans.

[Varnock]

What is your final verdict on this for each individual involved and you SUGGESTED bans/job bans.

A job ban for the CE from engineering, a week ban for Wardic with a watch placed on them for further incidents, and a job ban for Stover from RO/CT.

[Feweh]

All bans/job-bans have been placed as per varnocks suggestion.

Resolved.