Dishonorable Predator

[Boltersam]

Your Byond Key: Boltersam

Your Character Name: Dhi'rauta Bhu'ja

Accused Byond Key(if known):

Character Name: Kwei Dahdtoudi

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 20:45ish GMT

What rule(s) were broken: Honor code, rule seven. No ranged weapons may be used in an honourable duel, it is to the death.

Description of the incident: Kwei was duelling a human, John Hayter, who had a riot shield and a machete. Midway through the duel, Kwei used his plasma caster on John, then threw away his shield. John got up and managed to finish Kwei, but died in the bracer explosion.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): https://gyazo.com/e906c071775694dfcbc6171197629373

How you would punish the accused: Possible removal from whitelist. I put this up for Feweh, he was the one responding to the situation at the time, and requested I made it.

[Tristan63]

[Boltersam]

The round hasn't ended yet. Are you the Yautja in question, though?

[VenomBH]

I played John Hayter, and I didn't see how this was fair. Shield doesn't count as a weapon and I got shot and had it removed.

[Azmodan412]

I was witness to the dishonour. +1 for punishment.

[coroneljones]

In a way,dishonorable possibly

In another way

Shield Deflection change+Machete deflection chance=Cant hit this 90 percent of the time

[doodeeda]

Also, machete has an absurdly high KO chance from what I saw. Yautja got knocked out twice? and was slashed repeatedly while it was asleep. Just statin the facts.

[forwardslashN]

Tristan is the pred in this report. I didn't see this take place, but I've seen Tristan fighting dishonorably before, including killing a crusher 1v1 with an alloy gun without even trying to melee. I don't think this sort of behavior should be tolerated.

[Shyguychizzy]

I was there when this honorable duel took place. Started out with melee, John Haytor armed with a machete and riot shield, the pred:Kwei Dahdtoudi, as what the reporter claimed, I assumed the pred was pissed off so then fired the plasma caster, it blew away the riot shield midway. During the honorable duel, therefore he brought dishonor. I was a observing ghost at the time, watching the duel happening, many other ghosts witnessed it. +1 for punishment.

[Tristan63]

Tristan is the pred in this report. I didn't see this take place, but I've seen Tristan fighting dishonorably before, including killing a crusher 1v1 with an alloy gun without even trying to melee. I don't think this sort of behavior should be tolerated.

That time was because he was my target and I stalked him to near medical dome. I used my tanslator and *custom emotes to tell him he was my target, to which he ran north. I shot at him into crit with my needler and dragged him onto the weeds where he regenerated and instead of fighting, kept running north so I shot him and butchered him. This time I was dueling John and he knocked me out twice, to which I woke up both times having more wounds. The second time I used my plasma caster on light to discard his sheild to make it a balanced fight, to which he fell down wounded. he knocked me out and realizing my mistake I did blow myself up, which subsequently killed him after I told him back in LOOC.

[Feweh]

I'll be speaking to Apop directly about actions to take.
As this was a blatant and obvious rule break... Removal is very possible.

Player has been suspended of playing Predator in the mean-time.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

In a way,dishonorable possibly

In another way

Shield Deflection change+Machete deflection chance=Cant hit this 90 percent of the time

Jones does has a bit of a point with the block chance for both items. However, using a plasma gun during an honorable duel is iffy. Though, slashing a foe into KO and continuing to attack is also frowned on, the offender in this case was a marine, so I'm unsure if that calls the honor duel off, due to the fact, in predator society, hitting a foe who can't hit back is a bit dickish, and subsequent for an ass kicking.

[forwardslashN]

snip.

That's not what happened. I watched you get knocked down by the crusher, then you ran back and began shooting the alloy cannon. Then you critted the crusher on the river with the cannon, dragged it back to the bank and finished it off with a maxed out plasma caster while it was still in crit. Without trying to melee it at any point. This did not go unnoticed at the time, but this time I'm bringing it out in the open.

[VenomBH]

I'd also like to point out, though not sure predators can tell, but I was in critical for the entire fight, due to the same predator blowing me up with the plasma caster beforehand too. Somehow survived and used tricord.

[doodeeda]

The predator I believe attacked you because you (I believe, might have been someone else) had predator tech on you. Then others started running towards the predator and Tristan plasmacastered all of them. You kept movin towards. Not sure if it was an honorable duel or not, no words or formality was done to my knowledge. You kinda just charged at him and the predator went with it.

[Azmodan412]

The predator I believe attacked you because you (I believe, might have been someone else) had predator tech on you. Then others started running towards the predator and Tristan plasmacastered all of them. You kept movin towards. Not sure if it was an honorable duel or not, no words or formality was done to my knowledge. You kinda just charged at him and the predator went with it.

It was during an honorduel between a riotshield-machete marine and the predator. For shame.

[doodeeda]

..what? what I said was all before any "dueling" happened.

[apophis775]

Yeah, using a plasma caster during a honorable duel is a dishonorable move. You shouldn't have dueled him, if you weren't ready to die. If the marine had pulled a gun or broken the "rules of the duel" which, in this case I would view as "the weapons your started the duel with", then it might be different. I'm going to have to agree that we need to remove you from the whitelist.

[Tristan63]

Yeah, using a plasma caster during a honorable duel is a dishonorable move. You shouldn't have dueled him, if you weren't ready to die. If the marine had pulled a gun or broken the "rules of the duel" which, in this case I would view as "the weapons your started the duel with", then it might be different. I'm going to have to agree that we need to remove you from the whitelist.

We never agreed to do the duel in the first place, I attacked him cause he stole my ceremonial dagger, and he returned to fight.
No words were exchanged that declared it a duel, but in essence it was.

[Feweh]

Resolved.

We're super strict on Predators, this was a clear obvious holy shit never do that in a duel.
We want to promote RP and not have marines blast predators instantly... if players see this behavior they'll shoot instantly even more.

Removed from whitelist, re-apply in a month.