Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

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Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Mattmaster77 » 31 Jul 2016, 17:53

Your Byond Key: Chaznoodles.

Your Character Name: Josen ‘Flex’ Keelin.

Their Byond key: Feweh.

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central Us Time for best results): 1700, July 31 2016

Which Admin Protocols (viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5647) were broken: #2, #3, #4, #5, plus Code of Conduct #1, #2, #4.

Description of the incident: Over time, Feweh has deliberately targeted me and labelled me ‘a shit player’. He’s placed numerous severe bans for infractions without 1) Investigating, or 2) Talking to me and finding my reasons first.
On the first occasion, I was playing as a Squad Engineer. The RO had barricaded his office and was refusing to serve anyone, or order any supplies. We stood at his door for fifteen minutes asking, and he continued refusing. I warned him repeatedly that I would blow his door off if he did not start helping people, he refused. At the end of this fifteen minutes, I C4’d his door. The RO proceeds to open fire with a lethal weapon into the marines who come into his office, with no MP present, so the marines gun him down. When he’s on the floor, I take his pistol and shoot him once in the head. Feweh proceeds to place a weekban, as well as jobban from CE, CMO, BO, and CO for this, on the excuse “He’s a shit player”, without taking the time to talk or investigate the circumstances.
On the second occasion, look to BAN APPEAL.

EDIT: He has also denied an appeal that was against him.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): Logs in ban appeal. Cannot retrieve evidence of incident #1, as it was a month or so back. viewtopic.php?f=76&p=87775#p87775

EDIT: http://puu.sh/qlfpq/47386fd37c.png

PROOF OF CHAZNOODLES APPROVING OF EDIT: https://gyazo.com/f5c24db7b4cdc65e4abc81697df7d6fb

How you would punish the accused: Deal with him. Multiple players have experienced Feweh being aggressive and overbearing at numerous times, as well as issuing punishments without investigation or cause.
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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by apophis775 » 31 Jul 2016, 17:59

I'm not really sure, we can let people file complaints on behalf of others. Chaznoodles would have to reply here or provide some proof he's giving you permission to act in his stead...
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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Mattmaster77 » 31 Jul 2016, 18:01

apophis775 wrote:I'm not really sure, we can let people file complaints on behalf of others. Chaznoodles would have to reply here or provide some proof he's giving you permission to act in his stead...
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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Sarah_U. » 31 Jul 2016, 18:04

- I still vouch for Feweh on this. Grow up and blame the RO at the end of the round if you loose instead of pushing into his office which is considered bareline mutiny and getting a gunfight to start.
- The fact the RO started shooting is legitimate since you used EXPLOSIVES and he was most likely asking for MP help without getting any. What would've happened next? Letting you in and giving you a free pass to his equipment and possibly injuring him out of hate on making marines wait? Escalation on his part was fine imho. The best you could've done if it was pre-briefing would've been to complain to command and get to briefing, then make a stand-still move to get the CO to accept the attachments handling and shit on the RO himself.
- Furthermore, don't do things on behalf of others. For all I know you could be Chaznoodles alternative account and that place you in a shit possition.
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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Feweh » 31 Jul 2016, 18:04

This is an un-warranted Admin Complaint.
It is purely salt based due to the player being banned.

Attached is his ban history, alone in the last month he has many notes about his behaviour.
Given my position as Head Mod I've applied proper banning/job-bans.
To show that it isn't purely me banning him, I've left other admins names attached.

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Banned for end of round greif. by Lostmixup (GameAdmin) on Wed, December 16th of 2015 Remove

Warned for stealing ID's by TR-Blackdragon (HeadAdmin) on Thu, June 16th of 2016 Remove

Banned by spanishbirdman | Duration: 360 minutes | Reason: ID theft with prior notes for doing so. by SpanishBirdman (TrialModerator) on Sat, July 2nd of 2016 Remove

Banned by freemysoul | Duration: 1440 minutes | Reason: EoRG - Attacked a marine past round end. by Freemysoul (Moderator) on Thu, July 7th of 2016 Remove

Banned from Requisitions Officer - Ignored Orders to hand out attachments as the RO, welded the airlocks shut and was apart of a group that shot fellow marines/mps. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Thu, July 14th of 2016 Remove

Decapitated the CO and shoved a marine into an electric grille multiple times due to the marine breaking into engineering. banned for 3 days by Jdobbin49 (Moderator) on Fri, July 15th of 2016 Remove

Warned for self antagging as the Cl, using pmcs to "mutiny" and cut coms. Despite explaining to them that the CL and pmcs are neither crew or marines, and dont counts towards that rule he continued to argue his point. If there are further issues with him as Cl he should be job banned. by MilesWolfe (TrialAdmin) on Sat, July 23rd of 2016 Remove

Banned from Corporate Liaison - Self antagging: As the Cl, used pmcs to "mutiny" and cut coms. Argued his his point for about 30 minutes. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Sat, July 23rd of 2016 Remove

Banned by feweh | Duration: 4320 minutes | Reason: Broke into Cargo using c4, injured the BO who he was also involved in a dispute with. Shit player,numerous job-bans will be given to limit player to simple roles due to constant shitty note history by feweh (HeadModerator) on Mon, July 25th of 2016 Remove

Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Military Police, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - See previous notes, shit player and needs to improve. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Mon, July 25th of 2016 Remove

Banned from Doctor - As a doctor was at the front-lines fighting the Russians and quickly quick looted the russians once they were killed. This was as imple warning, but player then insisted arguing with me that it wasnt a rule. However /// If you are unarmed and there is a rifle on the ground, you may pick it up and fire it at an alien who is IMMEDIATLY THREATENING YOUR LIFE. Once the alien is gone, you must drop the weapon and leave the area. Your job is MEDICAL not combat, >>>> fighting on the front-lines will result in a job-ban. <<<< by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Sun, July 31st of 2016 Remove

Player is under probation due to MULTIPLE bans, warnings and job-bans. Further bans will result in a perma-ban and staff request to do so. by Feweh (HeadModerator) on Sun, July 31st of 2016 Remove

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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Edgelord » 31 Jul 2016, 18:10

So you think it's justified to fucking murder an officer because you don't get your foregrip? That is not only completely toxic behavior, it is Inarguably unrealistic behavior on a medium RP server. Was it okay for the RO to just start shooting at marines? Definitely not, but on this server your crimes are judged independently from the crimes of others. The actions Chaz took were pure unadulterated toxicity.
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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Mattmaster77 » 31 Jul 2016, 18:43

This is my thoughts on this. You shouldn't be focusing on Chaznoodles's fault for a complaint about a staff member who didn't even bother to investigate if Chaz had in fact picked up a rifle and fired it.

"This is an un-warranted Admin Complaint. It is purely salt based due to the player being banned."

You didn't investigate, you didn't talk to him about it before hand.

HeadModerator PM from Feweh: stop looting the russians youre a doctor.

PM to Feweh: Emergency situation.

HeadModerator PM from Feweh: you shouldnt even be in that situation, theres 0 reason for oyu to be there

PM to Feweh: Wounded everywhere, aliens coming.

HeadModerator PM from Feweh: no, you wait in medbay, you dont go to the shooting.

That was taking from the ban appeal. http://pastebin.com/wXxdRNC9

PFC Jay Andrewson says, "DOC"
Dr. John Sheridan says, "Russians came."
PFC Jay Andrewson says, "TO ME"
PFC Michael Oreman [Sulaco (Mar)] says, "Guys, the dropship just went to the planet."
CDR Karabinov Automatov [Sulaco (CO)] says, "GOD DAMN IT YOU FUCKING CYKAS."
PFC Ali Flickinger [Sulaco (Mar)] asks, "Where are they?"
CDR Karabinov Automatov [Sulaco (CO)] says, "WE WANTED A TRUCE."
You put Anesthetic into Combat Lifesaver Bag.
PFC Jay Andrewson says, "A GUN DOC"
Siana Daue fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Siana Daue fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
PFC Umber Hoss says, "Help..."
PFC Michael Oreman [Sulaco (Mar)] yells, "THE DROPSHIP WENT TO THE PLANET WITH NO ONE ON IT!"
PFC Jay Andrewson says, "GIMME HERE"
PFC Umber Hoss says, "Help..."
The rifle bullet misses Siana Daue!
Ivan Davydov fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Dom 'Decker' Parnell fires the ÿMK221 tactical shotgun (Wielded)!
Siana Daue is hit by the rifle bullet in the chest!
James White fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
CDR Karabinov Automatov [Sulaco (CO)] says, "WE ARE ALL FDUCKED ANYWAY IN THIS SITUATION, BUT YOU MUST FUCKING GO HERE WITH YOUR MEATGRINDER BULLSHIT."
Siana Daue fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Ivan Davydov fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
James White fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Eva Davydov is hit by the armor-piercing submachinegun bullet in the groin!
The rifle bullet misses Eva Davydov!
Josen 'Flex' Keelin is hit by the rifle bullet in the left hand!
Eva Davydov is hit by the armor-piercing submachinegun bullet in the chest!
ÿThe wound on Eva Davydov's chest widens with a nasty ripping noise.
Siana Daue fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
*click click*
James White fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
The rifle bullet misses Eva Davydov!
Siana Daue fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Siana Daue is hit by the rifle bullet in the right foot!
James White fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
The rifle bullet misses Eva Davydov!
ÿSomething feels like it shattered in your left hand!
Dr. Josen 'Flex' Keelin screams!
ÿYou hear a loud cracking sound coming from Eva Davydov.
Eva Davydov screams!
Isaias Burns fires the ÿFN FP9000 Submachinegun!
Eva Davydov is hit by the armor-piercing submachinegun bullet in the chest!
Eva Davydov screams!
Eva Davydov is hit by the armor-piercing submachinegun bullet in the chest!
Eva Davydov is hit by the armor-piercing submachinegun bullet in the chest!
Eva Davydov screams!
Dr. Josen 'Flex' Keelin cries out and drops what they were holding in their left hand!
ÿYou hear a loud cracking sound coming from Eva Davydov.
Eva Davydov screams!
ÿYou hear a loud cracking sound coming from Eva Davydov.
Eva Davydov screams!
Eva Davydov seizes up and falls limp, their eyes dead and lifeless...
ÿThe wound on Eva Davydov's head widens with a nasty ripping noise.
ÿYou hear a sickening cracking sound coming from Eva Davydov's face.
ÿThe wound on Oleg Yeltsin's head widens with a nasty ripping noise.
ÿYou hear a sickening cracking sound coming from Oleg Yeltsin's face.
Logan Payne fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Ivan Davydov fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Isaias Burns fires the ÿFN FP9000 Submachinegun!
Ivan Davydov fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Ivan Davydov is hit by the shotgun slug in the head!
Ivan Davydov fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Ivan Davydov fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Ivan Davydov is hit by the shotgun slug in the chest!
The shotgun slug shrapnel sticks in the wound!
Ivan Davydov screams!
ÿ!You inject Ivan Davydov with Anesthetic.
ÿ!10 units injected. 0 units remaining in Anesthetic.
Aria 'Blue' Moretti fires the ÿMK221 tactical shotgun (Wielded)!
Isaias Burns fires the ÿFN FP9000 Submachinegun!
Maximus Sauter fires the ÿMK221 tactical shotgun (Wielded)!
Ivan Davydov is hit by the shotgun slug in the chest!
Isaias Burns fires the ÿFN FP9000 Submachinegun!
Ivan Davydov is hit by the armor-piercing submachinegun bullet in the chest!
The armor-piercing submachinegun bullet shrapnel sticks in the wound!
Ivan Davydov screams!
Ivan Davydov is hit by the armor-piercing submachinegun bullet in the chest!
Ivan Davydov is hit by the armor-piercing submachinegun bullet in the groin!
SSGT Maximus Sauter says, "DOC"
ÿYou hear a loud cracking sound coming from Ivan Davydov.
Ivan Davydov screams!
Ivan Davydov is hit by the shotgun buckshot in the chest!
Ivan Davydov screams!
ÿThe wound on Ivan Davydov's chest widens with a nasty ripping noise.
Dr. Josen 'Flex' Keelin says, "I.t"
SSGT Maximus Sauter says, "TO THE BRIDGE"
ÿYou step on the glass shard!
ÿYou step on the glass shard!
ÿYou step on the glass shard!
Your left hand hurts badly.
Ivan Davydov gasps!
SSGT Maximus Sauter says, "DOCTOR"
Jack Mahogany fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
The spaceship hull is damaged by the rifle bullet!
ÿPulling Eva Davydov in their current condition would probably be a bad idea.
Tom Tercio checks James White's pulse.
SSGT Maximus Sauter says, "WE NEED YOU AT THE BRIDGE"
LT Dom 'Decker' Parnell stutters, "M-M-Medic"
ÿJosen 'Flex' Keelin is trying to take off a ÿH1 Iron Bears vest from Eva Davydov's body!
Jack Mahogany fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Ivan Davydov is hit by the rifle bullet in the left hand!
ÿJosen 'Flex' Keelin is trying to take off the the specops gloves from Eva Davydov's hands!
ÿPulling Eva Davydov in their current condition would probably be a bad idea.

ÿPulling Eva Davydov in their current condition would probably be a bad idea.
ÿPulling Eva Davydov in their current condition would probably be a bad idea.
*click click*
Ivan Davydov seizes up and falls limp, their eyes dead and lifeless...
ÿPulling Eva Davydov in their current condition would probably be a bad idea.
ÿPulling Eva Davydov in their current condition would probably be a bad idea.
ÿPulling Eva Davydov in their current condition would probably be a bad idea.
Jack Mahogany fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Ivan Davydov is hit by the rifle bullet in the head!
ÿYou hear a sickening cracking sound coming from Ivan Davydov's face.
ÿJosen 'Flex' Keelin is trying to take off a ÿH1 Iron Bears vest from Eva Davydov's body!
LT Dom 'Decker' Parnell stammers, "N-Need a-a m-medic!"
SSGT Maximus Sauter says, "DOCTOR"
ÿJosen 'Flex' Keelin is trying to take off the the ÿIron Bear helmet from Eva Davydov's head!
Viktor Barsukov is hit by the rifle bullet in the right arm!
SSGT Maximus Sauter says, "WE NEED YOU"
SSGT Maximus Sauter says, "AT THE BRIDGE"
SSGT Maximus Sauter says, "NOW"
PFC Jay Andrewson says, "DOC"
PFC Jay Andrewson says, "RUN"
ÿLogan Payne has thrown the ÿSVD Dragunov-033 sniper rifle.
Dom 'Decker' Parnell talks into the marine command radio headset
ÿIsaias Burns is trying to take off a leather satchel from Eva Davydov's back!
Viktor Barsukov fires the ÿSVD Dragunov-033 sniper rifle (Wielded)!
Jimmy McFarlan fires the ÿM41A pulse rifle MK2 (Wielded)!
Arthur King [MedSci (Doc)] says, "Guys, we have nobody defending the hanger, we're fucked."

You put the hypospray into the ÿH1 Iron Bears vest.

Explain to everyone Feweh, how he FOUGHT (as in firing guns at the iron bears) in this situation, tell me what made you think he even fought in this. The pms were first about looting the dead iron bear, but then it turned into him fighting in this. Enlighten me... Please.

You are only applying his notes when this is about YOU. You should have posted his notes in the ban appeal WHICH YOU DENIED BY YOURSELF. Not here.

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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Jdobbin49 » 31 Jul 2016, 18:44

viewtopic.php?f=128&t=8014
Please note that this was not even a month ago that I made this and feweh and TR actually denied this because they didn't deem chaz's notes at that point and time to be worthy of a perma ban.
Postby Feweh » 15 Jul 2016, 16:08
I see only 2 bans placed prior to this PERMA Request.
Its not warranted to have him perma banned.

Postby TR-BlackDragon » 15 Jul 2016, 16:21
Not enough reason for perma as feweh stated. I'll be reducing the ban down to 3 days instead of the 7 day ban. If you could edit your notes on his account accordingly that would be appreciated.
Denied

Chaz went from having these notes:
Players Notes (REQUIRED): Banned for end of round greif. by Lostmixup (GameAdmin) on Wed, December 16th of 2015

Warned for stealing ID's by TR-Blackdragon (HeadAdmin) on Thu, June 16th of 2016

Banned by spanishbirdman | Duration: 360 minutes | Reason: ID theft with prior notes for doing so. by SpanishBirdman (TrialModerator) on Sat, July 2nd of 2016

Banned by freemysoul | Duration: 1440 minutes | Reason: EoRG - Attacked a marine past round end. by Freemysoul (Moderator) on Thu, July 7th of 2016

Banned from Requisitions Officer - Ignored Orders to hand out attachments as the RO, welded the airlocks shut and was apart of a group that shot fellow marines/mps. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Thu, July 14th of 2016 Remove

To having the notes that you see feweh posted above.

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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Mattmaster77 » 31 Jul 2016, 18:51

jdobbin49 wrote:viewtopic.php?f=128&t=8014
Please note that this was not even a month ago that I made this and feweh and TR actually denied this because they didn't deem chaz's notes at that point and time to be worthy of a perma ban.
Postby Feweh » 15 Jul 2016, 16:08
I see only 2 bans placed prior to this PERMA Request.
Its not warranted to have him perma banned.

Postby TR-BlackDragon » 15 Jul 2016, 16:21
Not enough reason for perma as feweh stated. I'll be reducing the ban down to 3 days instead of the 7 day ban. If you could edit your notes on his account accordingly that would be appreciated.
Denied

Chaz went from having these notes:
Players Notes (REQUIRED): Banned for end of round greif. by Lostmixup (GameAdmin) on Wed, December 16th of 2015

Warned for stealing ID's by TR-Blackdragon (HeadAdmin) on Thu, June 16th of 2016

Banned by spanishbirdman | Duration: 360 minutes | Reason: ID theft with prior notes for doing so. by SpanishBirdman (TrialModerator) on Sat, July 2nd of 2016

Banned by freemysoul | Duration: 1440 minutes | Reason: EoRG - Attacked a marine past round end. by Freemysoul (Moderator) on Thu, July 7th of 2016

Banned from Requisitions Officer - Ignored Orders to hand out attachments as the RO, welded the airlocks shut and was apart of a group that shot fellow marines/mps. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Thu, July 14th of 2016 Remove

To having the notes that you see feweh posted above.
These notes shouldn't even be here, this is about Feweh breaking admin protocol. Focus on what Feweh didn't do. Not on what was done by Chaznoodles in the past.

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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Feweh » 31 Jul 2016, 19:02

Mattmaster77 wrote: These notes shouldn't even be here, this is about Feweh breaking admin protocol. Focus on what Feweh didn't do. Not on what was done by Chaznoodles in the past.
Ok, stop here Carl/Master
The entire complaint is that Chaz's ban and job-bans are un-justified and I'm biased towards Chaz's specifically.
I provided evidence wherre 75% of his bans are from other admins and not me.
Further more, Jdob just supplied evidence that I supported CHAZ NOT being perma-banned about a month ago.

This is evidence and proof that I am not biased and simply doing my job.
Mattmaster77 wrote: You put the hypospray into the ÿH1 Iron Bears vest.

Explain to everyone Feweh, how he FOUGHT (as in firing guns at the iron bears) in this situation, tell me what made you think he even fought in this. The pms were first about looting the dead iron bear, but then it turned into him fighting in this. Enlighten me... Please. .
Chaz was running around with the hypospray trying to inject an Iron-Bear.
You can see him from his own chat logs putting said Hypospray into the iron bears vest afterwards. He left med-bay and specifically ran towards the iron-bears, essentially putting himself on the front-lines. I WITNESSED this, as in I personally watched him do all this and simply warned him till he started arguing AGAIN and placed a job-ban instead.
As per procedure, he has been warned previously to stop arguing and he constantly does anyways.


So to end this complaint.

1. Myself and a fellow staff member provided CLEAR evidence that I am not biased towards Chaz, even sticking up for him to not be perma-banned a month ago.
2. The events that lead to his job-ban were LEGIT as he was on the front-lines NOT healing marines but trying to inject an IB. THEN he was job-banned for ARGUING further about his simple warning.
3. No admin protocals were broken, all bans/job-bans and warnings were within my proper rights and procedures.
All of this is within my job rights and duties as a Head-Mod and nothing more.

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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Mattmaster77 » 31 Jul 2016, 19:52

Feweh wrote: Ok, stop here Carl/Master
The entire complaint is that Chaz's ban and job-bans are un-justified and I'm biased towards Chaz's specifically.
I provided evidence wherre 75% of his bans are from other admins and not me.
Further more, Jdob just supplied evidence that I supported CHAZ NOT being perma-banned about a month ago.

This is evidence and proof that I am not biased and simply doing my job.
Chaz was running around with the hypospray trying to inject an Iron-Bear.
You can see him from his own chat logs putting said Hypospray into the iron bears vest afterwards. He left med-bay and specifically ran towards the iron-bears, essentially putting himself on the front-lines. I WITNESSED this, as in I personally watched him do all this and simply warned him till he started arguing AGAIN and placed a job-ban instead.
As per procedure, he has been warned previously to stop arguing and he constantly does anyways.


So to end this complaint.

1. Myself and a fellow staff member provided CLEAR evidence that I am not biased towards Chaz, even sticking up for him to not be perma-banned a month ago.
2. The events that lead to his job-ban were LEGIT as he was on the front-lines NOT healing marines but trying to inject an IB. THEN he was job-banned for ARGUING further about his simple warning.

All of this is within my job rights and duties as a Head-Mod and nothing more.
Alright, did you even check the hypospray. At ALL, during the fight? No, you didn't it was loaded with tricord. Chaz took them directly from the vendor and put them into his labcoat.

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If you did investigate this, you would have seen it wasn't anything harmful... unless you want to say that ODing someone is fighting. You only PMed him about him stopping to loot the dead iron bears that he dragged back, then changed it to going to the fighting.

-- Click the HeadModerator's name to reply --
HeadModerator PM from Feweh: stop looting the russians youre a doctor.

PM to Feweh: Emergency situation.

HeadModerator PM from Feweh: you shouldnt even be in that situation, theres 0 reason for oyu to be there

PM to Feweh: Wounded everywhere, aliens coming.

HeadModerator PM from Feweh: no, you wait in medbay, you dont go to the shooting.

PM to Feweh: Where in the rules does it say that?

HeadModerator PM from Feweh: You're a doctor, your job is to heal people. Not run to the frontline, fast loot the russians and almost get shot multiple times.

Witnessing is different from investigating. This is a matter where you can't see everything from aghosting. You have to INVESTIGATE before you can come to the conclusion that he broke the rules.

1. Send a personal message (PM) to the violator asking them to explain their actions
a. Give them a respectable time to respond. They might not be able to respond that second. If there is a group running and fighting put the individuals to sleep that seem to be causing an issue, inform them through LOOC or OOC that they’ve been put to sleep by a staff member, then deal with them accordingly. Make sure that other people don’t steal from them or anything of the sort.
b. It is recommended that you get a second staff member to help with larger groups of possible rule breakers so you can resolve the situation faster.

2. Investigate the situation
a. Contact anyone involved and get their side of the story. Also, check logs. It may not be immediately visible WHO caused the situation, and you may need to talk to several people to figure it out. Try to do this as quickly and efficiently.

3. Determine the seriousness of the issue
a. This is very important because the seriousness should match the punishment. For example: using light netspeak (emoji’s and such) is not a bannable offense for first time offenders; however, killing a marine for an insufficient reasons is.

Taken straight from the protocols that you broke from my point of view. You didn't ask him to explain his actions, you told him to stop looting. Xenos were boarding, and he was getting armor to defend himself. The Sulaco isn't the front line at the time, there was a boarding by iron bears, yes, but that doesn't mean that the front line (xenos) was at the bridge itself, it was at the shuttle landing zone where the xenos were waiting for the shuttle to land. And LASTLY you didn't PM him if the hypospray had anything harmful inside at ALL, you broke procedure.

First it was looting, then it was going to the fighting, now it's putting a hypospray into his armor that he took in order to protect himself?

SSGT Maximus Sauter [Sulaco (MP)] says, "DOCTOR TO THE BRIDGE"
PFC Jay Andrewson says, "DOC"
Dr. John Sheridan says, "Russians came."
PFC Jay Andrewson says, "TO ME"

He didn't fire a single shot at either side of the fight. He responded to a call sent by the MP to head to the bridge, he responded and was caught in the middle of the gunfire.

If anything can be learned from this, the rule for the doctor being at the front line should be reworked, for example: doctor rules for being on sulaco and doctor rules for being field surgeon at the FOB. Because all doctors who are cornered with marines at either escape pods/bridge should be jobbanned. This issue started because the rules can be easily misunderstood by player and staff.

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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Feweh » 31 Jul 2016, 20:02

Hahaha I was that MP that youre quoting right now. I was yelling at him the entire time to get to the bridge to heal wounded. He ignored the wounded and instead stay at the frontline getting shot at and fast looted the Iron Bears.
There is no credibility left in this report or from you as you just blatantly lied. He didnt respond to me, the MP.. Thats me yellingat him to get back.

Investigation was done, he broke rules for being on the frontline and ignoring wounded. His argument was that there is no rule about doing what he did, yet there is right there.

I didnt message him because I was bored, I sent him a warning because I witnessed him breaking a rule. Your opinion on wether or not he broke a rule doesnt matter, because as an admin/mod its my job/duty to make that decision.

There is nothing left to argue.

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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by slc97 » 31 Jul 2016, 20:09

I was laying there dying from being lit on fire while he looted the Russians and then left. I have absolutely zero sympathy on this jobban. If you want to be a doctor, you be a doctor. If you want to fight and loot Iron Bears, go be a standard so someone who actually wants to do medical can do medical.

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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by Flex » 31 Jul 2016, 20:39

Aight fam, Chaz here, I literally made an account there because a lot of things are being blown out and misused by the opposite side of the complaint here.
Feweh wrote: Banned for end of round greif. by Lostmixup (GameAdmin) on Wed, December 16th of 2015 Remove
Fuck know what this was tbh.
Feweh wrote: Warned for stealing ID's by TR-Blackdragon (HeadAdmin) on Thu, June 16th of 2016 Remove
Took an ID off a body to put it's gear in it's respective prep room, was told to put the ID back on it, did so immediately without question, informing the staff member the reasoning for what I was doing. Unsure why this note is here.
Feweh wrote: Banned by spanishbirdman | Duration: 360 minutes | Reason: ID theft with prior notes for doing so. by SpanishBirdman (TrialModerator) on Sat, July 2nd of 2016 Remove
Probably the same thing. Unsure why it says 'prior notes' when the only prior note isn't proper.
Feweh wrote: Banned by freemysoul | Duration: 1440 minutes | Reason: EoRG - Attacked a marine past round end. by Freemysoul (Moderator) on Thu, July 7th of 2016 Remove
I remember this. Staff member treated me curteously, I accepted the ban when the pointed out the rule that had been broken, as a rule had been broken.
Feweh wrote: Banned from Requisitions Officer - Ignored Orders to hand out attachments as the RO, welded the airlocks shut and was apart of a group that shot fellow marines/mps. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Thu, July 14th of 2016 Remove
This was Feweh. Marines were threatening to kill myself and my CT, so I kept the shutters closed. Marines proceeded to blow the door open. I was not involved in shooting fellow marines/MPs, I had repeatedly told said people to put the guns down.
Feweh wrote: Decapitated the CO and shoved a marine into an electric grille multiple times due to the marine breaking into engineering. banned for 3 days by Jdobbin49 (Moderator) on Fri, July 15th of 2016 Remove
CO ran out of maintenance towards me at full speed without a word and broke my ribs with a telebaton with no reasoning, so I took his head off with a fire axe as he still had his baton out and was preparing to hit me again. Said marine had broken into Engineering, and shot me repeatedly when I told him to get out, so I threw him into a shocked door until critical.
Feweh wrote: Warned for self antagging as the Cl, using pmcs to "mutiny" and cut coms. Despite explaining to them that the CL and pmcs are neither crew or marines, and dont counts towards that rule he continued to argue his point. If there are further issues with him as Cl he should be job banned. by MilesWolfe (TrialAdmin) on Sat, July 23rd of 2016 Remove

Banned from Corporate Liaison - Self antagging: As the Cl, used pmcs to "mutiny" and cut coms. Argued his his point for about 30 minutes. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Sat, July 23rd of 2016 Remove
Never ACTUALLY mutinied. Cut comms to stop message of the infestation getting out and wrecking the company, as any trustworthy WeyYu employee would do. Accepted this ban. Second part was actually placed at the same time as the first part, so I'm unsure why two exist.

Feweh wrote: Banned by feweh | Duration: 4320 minutes | Reason: Broke into Cargo using c4, injured the BO who he was also involved in a dispute with. Shit player,numerous job-bans will be given to limit player to simple roles due to constant shitty note history by feweh (HeadModerator) on Mon, July 25th of 2016 Remove
I never shot a BO. It was the RO in Cargo who was refusing to supply the rest of the ship with materials, as well as hand out attachments. Said RO opened fire with a lethal weapon into marines when I blew the door open, so marines emptied rifles into him. I fired one shot, with his own pistol, into him.
Feweh wrote: Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Military Police, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - See previous notes, shit player and needs to improve. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Mon, July 25th of 2016 Remove
Placed at the same time as the above. Unsure why it was placed, as I was playing a standard marine role at the time, unrelated to any Command positions. "shit player and needs to improve"? I'm sure people can testify to Josen 'Flex' Keelin always being reliable and helpful.
Feweh wrote: Banned from Doctor - As a doctor was at the front-lines fighting the Russians and quickly quick looted the russians once they were killed. This was as imple warning, but player then insisted arguing with me that it wasnt a rule. However /// If you are unarmed and there is a rifle on the ground, you may pick it up and fire it at an alien who is IMMEDIATLY THREATENING YOUR LIFE. Once the alien is gone, you must drop the weapon and leave the area. Your job is MEDICAL not combat, >>>> fighting on the front-lines will result in a job-ban. <<<< by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Sun, July 31st of 2016 Remove
Crux of the issue. Explained in original post.
Edgelord wrote:So you think it's justified to fucking murder an officer because you don't get your foregrip? That is not only completely toxic behavior, it is Inarguably unrealistic behavior on a medium RP server. Was it okay for the RO to just start shooting at marines? Definitely not, but on this server your crimes are judged independently from the crimes of others. The actions Chaz took were pure unadulterated toxicity.
Read the above. RO opened fire into marines and was intent on killing them, so they returned fire. I was not fully involved in killing them. Also, don't be rude towards me. This isn't a complaint about me, stop targeting me and look at the issue at hand.
Feweh wrote: Chaz was running around with the hypospray trying to inject an Iron-Bear.
You can see him from his own chat logs putting said Hypospray into the iron bears vest afterwards. He left med-bay and specifically ran towards the iron-bears, essentially putting himself on the front-lines. I WITNESSED this, as in I personally watched him do all this and simply warned him till he started arguing AGAIN and placed a job-ban instead.
As per procedure, he has been warned previously to stop arguing and he constantly does anyways.
Wrong. I had just taken the hypospray from my labcoat and put it into the armour vest, as I wanted to keep my medical gear together to assist people, such as the BO who had major burns, and the MP who was missing a leg. I left medbay because wherever there's fighting, there's wounded, and it would risk their lives dragging them to Medbay. Is it now against the rules for a doctor to go out of Medbay? What about Engineers leaving Engineering? What about Command leaving the Bridge?

Again, I was not arguing, as you put it. There is a difference between arguing and providing my side of the story, which you decided to ignore.
Feweh wrote: So to end this complaint.
Stop trying to force a complaint against you to an end.
Feweh wrote:Hahaha I was that MP that youre quoting right now. I was yelling at him the entire time to get to the bridge to heal wounded. He ignored the wounded and instead stay at the frontline getting shot at and fast looted the Iron Bears.
Sorry, I was too busy trying to prioritise wounded, sort out my gear and keep myself safe to note the screaming of an unwounded MP. I was not getting shot at, only the people shooting the IBs were. Also, I only looted the IB once they were dead, visible on any healthHUD.
Feweh wrote: There is no credibility left in this report or from you as you just blatantly lied. He didnt respond to me, the MP.. Thats me yellingat him to get back.
Stop trying to force this complaint to an end. You have obviously not read the logs, as you're so saying, because you have made points that differ from fact.
Feweh wrote: Investigation was done, he broke rules for being on the frontline and ignoring wounded. His argument was that there is no rule about doing what he did, yet there is right there.
You never made any attempt to investigate. You immediately started off with aggression, and this continued. You made no attempt to ask me what was happening, nor to listen to what I provided.
Feweh wrote: I didnt message him because I was bored, I sent him a warning because I witnessed him breaking a rule.
What rule did I break?
Feweh wrote: Your opinion on wether or not he broke a rule doesnt matter
The matter at hand: Abuse of power, administrative abuse.
Feweh wrote: There is nothing left to argue.
Stop trying to force this complaint to an end.
slc97 wrote:I was laying there dying from being lit on fire while he looted the Russians and then left. I have absolutely zero sympathy on this jobban. If you want to be a doctor, you be a doctor. If you want to fight and loot Iron Bears, go be a standard so someone who actually wants to do medical can do medical.
Were you the Bridge Officer I dragged away from the firefight and sorted your burns? Because if you are, you're misconstruing the story. I was the only competent doctor working in Medbay for the round. The CMO was brand new and didn't know medical, which isn't excusable. One of the other doctors was brand new, which was excusable. The other doctors I rarely saw, and they didn't do their jobs. If you weren't said Bridge Officer, I'm sorry the rest of Medbay weren't competent enough to support me in keeping the forces aboard the Sulaco in fighting order.

Also, I'd like to note: This is not about me, contrary to the things being thrown about here. It is about Feweh and the abuse. Please keep it focused on that topic rather than forcing it onto me and derailing the topic at hand. I'd like to thank the one guy on the thread trying to keep it on-topic and provide my side of the story.

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Re: Report Against Feweh (on behalf of Chaznoodles again)

Post by TR-BlackDragon » 31 Jul 2016, 20:55

Alright from the evidence that has posted here. I can see that Feweh was doing their job. Also, seeing as Chaz here has decided to make another account. And admiting to ban evading the forums, I am issueing a 2 month forum ip ban. Along with increasing his server ban time to an additional seven days.


This Report is now found to be in conclusion and will be locked and closed in a weeks time.

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