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Post by TeknoKot » 11 Aug 2016, 21:30

Your Byond Key:

TechnoKat

Your Character Name:

Katelynn Powers

Their Byond key:

slc97

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central Us Time for best results):

01:50'sh GMT London.

Which Admin Protocols (viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5647) were broken:

Improperly investigated (2) and didn't dare to even determine the seriousness, (3).

Description of the incident:

As CE, I was walking around(mind you, with no armour still) and saw Werner, and his survivor gang walking around thrashing the cafeteria, fully armed, basically just dropping trash from vendors. I called the MP's and they didn't respond, I kept calling the MP's again and Hanford responded. They went over to the colonists and kept asking to drop their weapons, by that time, I managed to nab Werner's MAR-40 and pass it to cargo. Went off again, strolling around as I see XO coming in, armoured. I went off to take my armour on to see what the fuck was going on and picked up a rifle that was dropped with 33 rounds left I believe? Upon coming they still kept refusing to drop their weapons, I kept telling Hanford to arrest them all already with a flashbang or something but then Werner called me out on stealing his MAR-40 and I lied that I spaced it, one of the survivors come up and punch me for it. The MP reacts with tasing them, then Werner LIGHTS UP with his weapons and starts firing at the MP, I take my rifle out and fire as much as I can, helping the XO not get murdered as he went off and cowered somewhere in the pods. They all fall to their wounds, I killed Werner as he kept standing up and firing, but spared the other guy. Then the two colonists who were alive, got surgery and shit, decided to light up brig and probably killed the XO and CO.

Here comes SLC, I try to make my point here that they broke their rules, which ALREADY stated, survivors being rescued,

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This, person, denies any of it and decides to ban me because I "metagamed" apparently, all because I said survivors tend to stirr shit up in Sulaco and get left unpunished for because IC reasons, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ARMED TO THE FUCKING TEETH AND DENIED HANDING OUT WEAPONS. They were ARMED to the fucking teeth and let alone the XO, who was armoured, got ME into armour as well, who the fuck is going to let HOSTILES onboard. Ooh, but because they're survivors, they're okay, not like IB's who do the same shit, or fucking aliens themselves who board and start stirring shit up via vent crawling.

He also basically enforced the "pick up rifle in immediate danger" rule as well, even though as CE, with a LIEUTENANT COMMANDER rank, that has MILITARY experience, apparently has to do the same

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Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):

Can't pull up the logs as the firefight was massive, need admins to pull em', but the ban reason?

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As Sulaco was not invaded? Are you out of your mind or something? You also used my point as solid "evidence" for metagaming, which is fucking sad.

How you would punish the accused:

I have no clue.


edit:: the immediate danger thing.
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Post by slc97 » 11 Aug 2016, 21:44

As for the improper investigation: I spoke to you, Werner, the XO, and the MP involved. Their stories were pretty much all the same that there was a firefight. The only difference was on who shot first. That will matter when the logs update and I investigate Neray. You were not banned for a firefight though. You were banned for metagaming and breaking marine rule 9 in which you, as a Sulaco crew member, were armored and armed with a rifle when the Sulaco was not being invaded. Similarly, the metagaming occurred because you told me:
Player PM from TechnoKat/(Katelynn Powers)(?): and i dont fucking trust survivors on sulaco type of bullshit.
Player PM from TechnoKat/(Katelynn Powers)(?): they're always stirring up shit, either by shooting command/MPs/CL.

This is meta knowledge that you used to justify running off to fight the survivors instead of being a CE.

Furthermore, you have already been talked to twice by me in the three days I have been a mod. One for telling a player that they need to quit playing CM, which you have been spoken to about before, and another time last night for an improper escalation of force that should have broken your probation. Warnipple and I decided to let you off easy last night hoping you would learn from the experience and take your parole more seriously, but you have not.

I believe your notes as well as the two experiences I shared above show exactly the type of toxic player you are to this server. Feweh's probation on you stated that any warning is a ban and any ban is a permaban, yet you were still given a chance to do better just last night, yet within 24 hours you showed an inability to shape up. I stand by my decision to ban you under the guidelines of Feweh's probation.

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Post by Warnipple » 11 Aug 2016, 21:49

You shouldn't have been involved with MP related work as CE.
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Post by TeknoKot » 11 Aug 2016, 21:53

slc97 wrote:As for the improper investigation: I spoke to you, Werner, the XO, and the MP involved. Their stories were pretty much all the same that there was a firefight. The only difference was on who shot first. That will matter when the logs update and I investigate Neray. You were not banned for a firefight though. You were banned for metagaming and breaking marine rule 9 in which you, as a Sulaco crew member, were armored and armed with a rifle when the Sulaco was not being invaded. Similarly, the metagaming occurred because you told me:
Player PM from TechnoKat/(Katelynn Powers)(?): and i dont fucking trust survivors on sulaco type of bullshit.
Player PM from TechnoKat/(Katelynn Powers)(?): they're always stirring up shit, either by shooting command/MPs/CL.

This is meta knowledge that you used to justify running off to fight the survivors instead of being a CE.

Furthermore, you have already been talked to twice by me in the three days I have been a mod. One for telling a player that they need to quit playing CM, which you have been spoken to about before, and another time last night for an improper escalation of force that should have broken your probation. Warnipple and I decided to let you off easy last night hoping you would learn from the experience and take your parole more seriously, but you have not.

I believe your notes as well as the two experiences I shared above show exactly the type of toxic player you are to this server. Feweh's probation on you stated that any warning is a ban and any ban is a permaban, yet you were still given a chance to do better just last night, yet within 24 hours you showed an inability to shape up. I stand by my decision to ban you under the guidelines of Feweh's probation.
So I said I don't trust survivors on Sulaco because they usually stirr up shit, which you took as metagaming when I could've already wore my armour as they got onboard and took a weapon?
The improper escalation force, let's talk about that, when somebody intentionally shoots at you, are you going to let it fucking slide? If you would pull the logs they will all SHOW the exact shit that I've just said about FIRING first intentionally.

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I have NEVER shot first, NEVER used a lethal weapon first, those idiots were the people BREAKING the damn rule as they SHOT first, but hence I fired back, it can be escalated as IC fucking issue. As for armored with a rifle, there were already proven HOSTILE fucking civilians by XO as they kept refusing to hand over weapons and all of them were LOADED.
Warnipple wrote:You shouldn't have been involved with MP related work as CE.
Oh but I was the person reporting this shit, and when the XO came, you would understand shit is about to go down.

edit:: I wasn't doing MP related work either, I only fired as they started firing upon us.
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Post by Warnipple » 11 Aug 2016, 21:59

Well you know not to be picking up firearms as CE unless Sulaco is being boarded yet you had one. If it was just the fireaxe then I'd understand but you picked up a god damn rifle.
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Post by slc97 » 11 Aug 2016, 22:00

Logs just updated on the fight between you and Neray (Werner Diels). Here is the first attack log involving Neray.
[19:35:05]ATTACK: Katelynn Powers (technokat) shot Werner Diels (neray) with a the rifle bullet
You shot first, Han.
I'm done here. I won't argue with you. You played jump-rope with the line for your probation and eventually you crossed it. Not my fault.

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Post by TeknoKot » 11 Aug 2016, 22:02

slc97 wrote:Logs just updated on the fight between you and Neray (Werner Diels). Here is the first attack log involving Neray.
[19:35:05]ATTACK: Katelynn Powers (technokat) shot Werner Diels (neray) with a the rifle bullet
You shot first, Han.
I'm done here. I won't argue with you. You played jump-rope with the line for your probation and eventually you crossed it. Not my fault.
Oh you fucking liar, Neray shot first with his fucking PPSh at the MP, look, at, the, logs.
Warnipple wrote:Well you know not to be picking up firearms as CE unless Sulaco is being boarded yet you had one. If it was just the fireaxe then I'd understand but you picked up a god damn rifle.
What's wrong with picking a fucking firearm when there's people declared hostile by XO? Who also didn't have fucking ID's either and were ARMED to the TEETH, with PPSh, MAR-30, SVD, fucking pistols and so on.
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Post by Feweh » 11 Aug 2016, 22:29

So here's what I gathered from a Neutral Individual involved and the main antagonist.
Both players have allowed me to use their names.

Player PM from Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): CE made the situation worse while me and the XO talked with them
HeadModerator PM to Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): In your opinion though, was there a legit reason to be armored and walking around with a primary.
Player PM from Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): not really.

Player PM from Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): if it helps, technokat is pretty dickish with that character, almost like victor
Player PM from Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): constantly bickers and fights over petty thing
HeadModerator PM to Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): I forced him to change IC characters to stop this behaviour
Player PM from Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): well it clearly didn't work.

Player PM from Neray/(Werner Diels)(?): (I want to point out that Kat was armed with armor, modded M41 and lots of mags for it, like he was waiting for a gunfight). We even started to remove our mags from weapons and tell XO about CL
Player PM from Neray/(Werner Diels)(?): I've got a feeling that she was intentionally provoking us to cause firefight. Plus I saw her taking her gun out first, even though Frank just punched her for non-stoping insults.




So here's the issue, this is basically common behavior for you.
I've spoken to you SOOO many time's about "calming down" and "relaxing". I even forced you to change IC characters just so you'd chill out.

There's nothing left to do other than follow through on our Procedures and return you to Perma-Ban.

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Post by TeknoKot » 11 Aug 2016, 22:39

Feweh wrote: Player PM from Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): CE made the situation worse while me and the XO talked with them
HeadModerator PM to Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): In your opinion though, was there a legit reason to be armored and walking around with a primary.
Player PM from Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): not really.
Though the XO moved in with armour, hence I took it on, because I thought something was about to go.
Feweh wrote:Player PM from Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): if it helps, technokat is pretty dickish with that character, almost like victor
Player PM from Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): constantly bickers and fights over petty thing
HeadModerator PM to Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): I forced him to change IC characters to stop this behaviour
Player PM from Aeleto/(Mark Hanford)(?): well it clearly didn't work.
The funny thing about fights, is that the "victim" usually turns out to be the offender a lot of times.
Feweh wrote:Player PM from Neray/(Werner Diels)(?): (I want to point out that Kat was armed with armor, modded M41 and lots of mags for it, like he was waiting for a gunfight). We even started to remove our mags from weapons and tell XO about CL
Player PM from Neray/(Werner Diels)(?): I've got a feeling that she was intentionally provoking us to cause firefight. Plus I saw her taking her gun out first, even though Frank just punched her for non-stoping insults.
No mods, no ammo was taken, just a rifle laying around. It ran out of ammo and I had to rush with a fireaxe, this idiot is literally lying. As pointed again, I've only moved in because the XO was armed, but I'd like to mention they did not take any mags out to hand over, as they instantly fired at the MP after tasing one of the colonists, which snapped me.
Feweh wrote:So here's the issue, this is basically common behavior for you.
I've spoken to you SOOO many time's about "calming down" and "relaxing". I even forced you to change IC characters just so you'd chill out.

There's nothing left to do other than follow through on our Procedures and return you to Perma-Ban.
How the hell can you calm down when all the fucking issues just keep coming at you?
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