Player Complaint: Dan 'Dank' Knut

[Mattmaster77]

Your Byond Key: Mattmaster77

Your Character Name: Carl 'Dad' Winston

Accused Byond Key(if known):

Character Name: Dan 'Dank' Knut

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 5:40 PM 8/24/16

What rule(s) were broken: No Griefing and/or Don't Be A Dick

Description of the incident: So early in the round I was Alpha SL in line in front of Dan (charlie/delta standard) and he decides to pull me out of line repeatedly, to the point I lose my spot. I proceed to try and disarm him repeatedly, accidentally picking up a fire extinguisher he was standing over and start beating him on the head over it (not to death, nor broke his skull with it, I hit him about 7 times). MPs break it up barely as they kept losing their batons, which Dan took one and started to stun me with it to try and get me arrested. I was pulled away by an IC friend and was able to recover, Dan follows us both into mess hall for some reason as the medic tries to hand me a tricord injector, which I used. He stands next to me for some reason and I pull out my rifle and shoot him in the head ONCE, breaking his skull, and put my rifle away. Later on as I try to get into req line again, I get arrested and brigged for it.

Fast forward to the near end of the round I got decapitated by Hunter 398, who was shortly killed afterwards, and my body and head being put on the shuttle ready to be sent up, Dan manages to find my head and proceeds to take it off the shuttle into the Commandant's quarters and places my head in the locker, closes it, and walks away to ensure I don't get cloned.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): None unfortunately since he didn't toss my head nor did I manage to get an examine off of him holding my head. Though he logged off server after the round ended.

Moderator PM from Slc97: Well, he is not currently online so I can't talk to him. Unfortunately, this one is gonna have to go unresolved, chief.

https://gyazo.com/d39591b4af1ed373583589331009998c -Screenshot of PM

How you would punish the accused: Warning/slight 1 day ban

[Jdobbin49]

Investigating this now

[Jdobbin49]

Ok so first I checked the logs about what you said at the start which I can confirm is true

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[16:23:59]ATTACK: Locoloco3001/(Dan 'Dank' Knut) disarmed Carl 'Dad' Winston (mattmaster77)
[16:24:00]ATTACK: Locoloco3001/(Dan 'Dank' Knut) disarmed Carl 'Dad' Winston (mattmaster77)
[16:24:29]ATTACK: Mattmaster77/(Carl 'Dad' Winston) disarmed Dan 'Dank' Knut (locoloco3001)
[16:24:31]ATTACK: Mattmaster77/(Carl 'Dad' Winston) disarmed Dan 'Dank' Knut (locoloco3001)
[16:24:33]ATTACK: Mattmaster77/(Carl 'Dad' Winston) disarmed Dan 'Dank' Knut (locoloco3001)
[16:24:41]ATTACK: Mattmaster77/(Carl 'Dad' Winston) disarmed Dan 'Dank' Knut (locoloco3001)
[16:24:57]EMOTE: Dan 'Dank' Knut/Locoloco3001 : <B>PFC Dan 'Dank' Knut</B> laughs!
[16:24:59]SAY: Carl 'Dad' Winston/Mattmaster77 : When you keep fucking taking me out of line.

This is all the stuff with the disarming and what not then shortly after we see the bashing just like matt said.

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[16:27:09]ATTACK: Mattmaster77/(Carl 'Dad' Winston) attacked Locoloco3001/(Dan 'Dank' Knut) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[16:27:11]ATTACK: Mattmaster77/(Carl 'Dad' Winston) attacked Locoloco3001/(Dan 'Dank' Knut) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[16:27:12]ATTACK: Mattmaster77/(Carl 'Dad' Winston) attacked Locoloco3001/(Dan 'Dank' Knut) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[16:27:13]ATTACK: Mattmaster77/(Carl 'Dad' Winston) attacked Locoloco3001/(Dan 'Dank' Knut) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)

Then after some confrontations with an MP where matt takes the MPs baton and all that there is a bit of a fistfight between carl and dan then there is the gun fire and I can confirm it was one single shot

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[16:28:52]ATTACK: Carl 'Dad' Winston (mattmaster77) shot Dan 'Dank' Knut (locoloco3001) with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?

After this there is then what it seems to be Carl getting arrested like he said but all this part was just really to see if what matt said of the first part was true but now onto the fun part which is the head hiding part!
Now at this moment and time alien attack logs are not appearing in the logs so I can not prove he was decapitated but I don't think that's really needed anyway but what is needed would be proof of the head being hidden so he couldn't be cloned but as far as I can see there is no proof of this saved in the logs due to there being no specific things that would have been saved.
I spoke to the only person that would have been a witness to this and he said this

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Conclusion(with what I could get)
So from what I could gather Matt told the truth on every instance on the first part so despite not being able to know for certain if the last bit actually did happen I am inclined to believe him. From what I see the entire first part was all dealt with ICly hiding a marines head however is a different story, I would definitely say something needs to be done and it's up to someone else for the final say but my opinion on what should happen would be a 3 day server ban due to the mass of notes this player already has.
End Report

[Feweh]

We consider death the end, despite having cloning.
Players arent entitled to clone, retrieve bodies or ensure your head makes it back.

However, purposely destroying bodies, hiding them or hindering potential cloning isnt allowed either.

Theres not enough evidence to warrant clear foul play unfortunately so im going to have to resolve this with no punishment given.