Player Complaint:Elite Empress

[Clarkeh]

Your Byond Key:
Clarkeh

Your Character Name:
Elite Spitter (197)

Accused Byond Key(if known):
No idea

Character Name:
Elite Empress

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results):
29/08/2016 15:23 UK Time

What rule(s) were broken:
Don't be a dick

Description of the incident:
Myself and a few other xenos were holding a defensive line in sci-dome from a last stand attach from the marines i was in the bottom room of the sci-dome along with a boiler who was to the right of me. All was going well until one of the marines sidelonged our defensive line and started shooting diagonally into our room. At this point the boiler said nothing about being shot. The Elite Empress shows up behind me and pushes me out into a marine firing squad. At no point did neither the Boiler or Elite Empress ask me to move via local chat or Hive chat.

I didn't want to make a report on this person but rather the admins just tap the queen on the shoulder and say not do it again but apparently the rule of being expendable as a Xeno overrides the actual number one rule of don't be a dick.
Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):

How you would punish the accused:
As i asked a simple tap on the shoulder and telling them to be more verbal instead of just being a dick for no reason. To add the boiler could have moved up three tiles out of danger to avoid the incoming fire. This boiler in question was also hyper aggressive during the round while i was observing and often the Queen told him to dial his ramboing down.

[Feweh]

Queens are free to sacrifice or order their children to die.
Nothing to look into here unless jt was excessive

[Kevinthezhang]

Are xenos forced to kill themselves if the queen orders them to?

Like something explicitly malicious like "drone you are ordered to stand in the center of LZ1 and get crushed by the dropship"

[Clarkeh]

Queens are free to sacrifice or order their children to die.
Nothing to look into here unless jt was excessive

wasn't an order the queen pushed me out into a firing squad and didn't use communications at all for thier intent. Did you read my report at all?

[Feweh]

wasn't an order the queen pushed me out into a firing squad and didn't use communications at all for thier intent. Did you read my report at all?

Doesnt have to be an order, physically forcing you into something is the same thing.

Also no way to investigate this, there'd be no logs of someone pushing you along.

[MauroVega]

Queen here,you were standing there spitting at nothing (marines were out of your range) so i pushed you out the way,got near the marines and screeched,i wasnt taking into acount a marine killing you,but i'd rather let a single spitter die,and not a boiler,queen and spitter

[Jdobbin49]

Queen here,you were standing there spitting at nothing (marines were out of your range) so i pushed you out the way,got near the marines and screeched,i wasnt taking into acount a marine killing you,but i'd rather let a single spitter die,and not a boiler,queen and spitter

This is basically what I had told him but he wouldn't accept that the queen could sacrifice a xeno for the benefit of the hive.

[Clarkeh]

So xenos rule overrides your primary dont be a dick rule?

As i tried to explain to you the queen didnt have to push me out when the boiler could have walked 2-3 tiles up to avoid the gunfire. It's clear admins dont agree with this so i will take this into consideration in my future xeno rounds.

[Feweh]

So xenos rule overrides your primary dont be a dick rule?

As i tried to explain to you the queen didnt have to push me out when the boiler could have walked 2-3 tiles up to avoid the gunfire. It's clear admins dont agree with this so i will take this into consideration in my future xeno rounds.

You can also drop the passive aggressive attitude, as that's not going to get you anywhere.
I already explained it to you, the Queen can do as she pleases and theres no way we could ever actually investigate this.

[Clarkeh]

If it comes across as passive aggressive that's not my intention. Im just confused by the ruling of the Xeno rule: Your life doesn't matter if it furthers the hive. Over the first rule don't be a dick. All i asked was that player be talked to about talking to me instead of shoving me but seeing as the player is active on the forums it's already been done and this can be closed now.

[Whistle]

If it comes across as passive aggressive that's not my intention. Im just confused by the ruling of the Xeno rule: Your life doesn't matter if it furthers the hive. Over the first rule don't be a dick. All i asked was that player be talked to about talking to me instead of shoving me but seeing as the player is active on the forums it's already been done and this can be closed now.

Consider this, is it a dick move if it saved the lives of three others?

Regardless, thank you for remaining composed, we hope you enjoy your future rounds.