3-Marines 1-MP Grief Report

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3-Marines 1-MP Grief Report

Post by Tharinoma » 02 Nov 2016, 23:49

Your Byond Key: Tharinoma

Your Character Name: Flint Hirleman

Accused Byond Key(if known):

Character Name: Alice 'La Fayette' Sanders - Borcuse 'Farsight' Girge - Alyssa "something" Cowper - Harry Cowper
Thought about throwing the CMO in there, decided not to. He didn't ruin anything for me or really break out of character from my point of view.

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 11-03-2016 09pm Central US, (3am GMT)

What rule(s) were broken:
Rules for Everyone : 1. Don't be a dick, 3.No Griefing,
Marine specific : Rule 1. Lethal Force, (rule 5.Mutiny), Rule 6.ID theft is illegal
Rule 9.Military police : You are bound by Marine Law. Violating Marine Law, (or the procedures) will result in a job-ban.

Description of the incident:

Some of this might have been dealt with by admins/mods during the round. I got no response to my ahelp about making a report and any action they might have taken had, in my eyes, no influence on the behavior of the players I am reporting.

TL;DR :
Team of three marines were generally "dicks" to me all round.
They assaulted and stripped me, stole all my gear including my ID, for no reason other than legitimate arrests.
One of these marines later killed me while I attempted to arrest him.
An MP used anaesthetics on me and another MP in order to release two of the three marines mentionned above.


(Some of this might not be in the right order, a bit might be missing, and I might have remembered one of the names wrong. If so, I apologise. It was a very long round for me, in which a very large amount of important stuff happened.)

Harry cowper was fighting with someone in cantina. I told them to stop a few times, one did, Cowper did not. I arrested him.
He was released a couple of minutes later as I didn't want him to miss deployment, and the CO asked me to.

The CMO Kazimov Karazmov tried to release Harry Cowper as I was arresting him. He even tresspassed in brig. I gave him a chance to just leave, but he decided to try and release his friend again. I arrested him.

Harry Cowper, stayed around brig and did not deploy to the planet.

While the CMO was arrested, two other marines, named Borcuse 'Farsight' Girge and Alyssa "something" Cowper decided to break in the brig. One of them shot the brig windows, so I arrested him/her. The other one decided to try and release his/her friend as I did that, assaulting me and tresspassing in brig in the process. So I naturally arrested them both. I don't remember which did which.

As I'm processing Alyssa, someone screams about sexual assault, something that stayed during the rest of the round, people referring to it occasionally. My character, naturally, did not sexually assault anyone.

Cowper is still around, lurking at security entrance. He tries with the CL to pay a "bail" in order to release his camarades, I refuse.

The Commander eventually arrives, and like most command staff in the brig, demands a short explanation of what happened, doesn't listen and asks me to release one of the prisoners without providing any good reason. He releases the CMO saying "there were people dying" and I decide to let the CMO go, most of his time was done already.

Until the end of the two remaining prisoners' time(Borcuse 'Farsight' Girge and Alyssa Cowper), both Harry Cowper and the CMO Kazimov stayed near the brig, sometimes tresspassing in by entering through the broken window, time during which I did not arrest them for doing so.

Everyone's time is up eventually. I release everyone, and they gang up in front of the brig, still not deploying. I head towards engineering to try and get someone to fix the broken window. On my way there, Harry Cowper tries to slip me with soap. I dodge and grab the soap, and still do not arrest him.

Then, as I'm walking in the hallway, near RO and engineering, one of them sprays me with pepperspray. ALOT. I go blind and go down. I barely have time to call for help over the radio before they strip me naked, and steal all of my gear, including my ID and headset.
***I ahelp this, and get a response from a mod/admin, telling me my ID is in disposals***

The commander tells us MPs to kill them at that point.

The three marines deploy to the planet. During that time the CMO does some more crimes. I don't remember which exactly, but another MP ends up handcuffed, anaesthetic-ed and locked in a space suit storage in medbay maintenance. A few minutes later, the CMO makes an announcment saying something like he has successfully taken over the bridge. I believe he's also the one that locked down medbay, trapping me and a few in there.

Hearing multiple calls for help from the bridge, I have a very bad idea and disposal myself. (On the server I played on previously, it was safe). I end up heavily injured in RO, then cafeteria where the other MP helps me, and gets a medic to heal me.

As I'm being healed, the CMO walks up to me and punches me in the face.
***I remember talking to an admin at this point too, not sure what about, possibly the CMO. When I arrest the CMO, the admin tells me to stop until I explain that he punched me***

I arrest him and perma him for mutiny. A bunch of stuff happens, most of which I don't remember. After some time, the marines return to the sulaco. I find Alyssa in medbay, ssd and being treated. I will shove her in cryo a few minutes later when I find her, still ssd, in front of medbay.

I stumble upon Harry Cowper somewhere, and manage to arrest him. I leave him in brig with what appears to be a not very bright MP that just joined.

I then head to charlie prep where an MP reported seeing Borcuse 'Farsight' Girge. He is hiding in charlie prep, in a room we MPs don't have access to. When we get the door open, he unloads AP bullets in my head and the MP working with me, killing me in the process, and severly wounding the other MP.
***I, of course, ahelp this, and am told that the admin/mod saw the incident and was already dealing with it. I did not get revived, and got no further information***

I get cloned, see the other MP dead in surgery. I walk around a bit, and see that Harry Cowper somehow escaped his cell. He's in hangar, looking like he's about to deploy. I decide to leave him for the time being.

I head back to charlie prep, and manage to arrest Borcuse 'Farsight' Girge this time. I put him in perma for murder. As I'm doing that, Harry Cowper tried to release him. So I arrested Harry Cowper too.

Right now I have Borcuse 'Farsight' Girge in perma, Harry Cowper in a cell, and the ghosted CMO in another.

A few minutes go by, when an MP, Alice 'La Fayette' Sanders, suddenly uses anaesthetics on me and the third MP in brig, and releases both marines.
***I ahelp this too, but get no response. Staffwho shows multiple admins online***

She locks me in a locker, still unconscious. I had time to call for help, and I saw a medic and someone with a commander ID run in the brig, I also heard gunshots, but I don't know what happened after.
***I ahelp again, informing the admins I am not satisfied with how this round went and I'm making a report on the forums.***



Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
None, didn't think I would need them, Sorry.

How you would punish the accused:
Depends on their history of rule breaking. I'll leave it up to the admin team, you guys probably know what's best.
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Re: 3-Marines 1-MP Grief Report

Post by slc97 » 02 Nov 2016, 23:55

So, I can clear up part of this that I was around for.

Up until the ID portion, this was an authorized mutiny. The line was drawn when your ID was stolen. I stepped in and informed them that an authorized mutiny was not a warrant to break the rules, and the person who took your ID was handled aptly.

Eventually, the mutiny fizzled out because it was poorly planned. Kazimov was unaware of this because he was in surgery for most of this time. I stepped in when he took the bridge and basically fixed a grief situation that was due to a misunderstanding because he was unconscious for most of that time.

After this, another staff member will have to fill in the blanks as I was AFK for the rest of the round after that catching up on my reading. Up until the Kazimov taking the bridge point, I believe no further staff involvement is necessary as I stepped in and diffused everything. After that, another staff member will have to weigh in on what happened.

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Re: 3-Marines 1-MP Grief Report

Post by freemysoul » 03 Nov 2016, 11:52

Investigating expect results within the next day.

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Re: 3-Marines 1-MP Grief Report

Post by InterroLouis » 03 Nov 2016, 22:15

I would like to point out that when Flint "stumbled upon" me, I was just returning from deployment on the planet for the purpose of getting my rockets restocked and my broken bones, fixed, which is why I was in fact waiting in medbay lobby for someone to let me in. I was then brigged for 45 minutes with no words except for being told I was under arrest, with everything stripped from me except my uniform. That includes my headset. I will point out that he left me alone in the cell with a weapon, an M44, holstered on my uniform. It should be standard MP procedure to search inmates upon processing, yes? I did not "escape" my cell, as Flint would like you to think, but rather my sentence was shortened by another MP. I would also like to point out that when I did get arrested the second time he once again took my headset, only giving it back upon prompting by another MP, and also set me up with at this point a 50 minute cell timer. In addition to this, he did not in fact arrest the person who actually started the fight with me in the canteen.

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Re: 3-Marines 1-MP Grief Report

Post by Tharinoma » 04 Nov 2016, 12:41

This doesn't justify any of the rule breaking I witnessed or suffered that round. The removal of your headset was deliberate the first time. The second time, I was going to give it back to you anyway, but I was busy handling two aggressive prisoners at once.
InterroLouis wrote: I did not "escape" my cell, as Flint would like you to think, but rather my sentence was shortened by another MP.
In that case, I would appreciate it if the admins/mods contacted that MP as well. MPs should not be releasing or lowering the timer of arrested prisoners without strong approval from command and without even contacting the MP that made the arrest. Releasing prisoners for no reason is against space marine law. (Very much still counts as an escape in my eyes, although you of course aren't responsible. As stated in the OP, I did not re-arrest you.)

Edit : Corrected typo "space law" to "marine law".
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Re: 3-Marines 1-MP Grief Report

Post by freemysoul » 05 Nov 2016, 16:54

Firstly we don't use "space law" we have our own Marine Laws.

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Re: 3-Marines 1-MP Grief Report

Post by Tharinoma » 05 Nov 2016, 20:54

freemysoul wrote:Firstly we don't use "space law" we have our own Marine Laws.
Thank you, corrected by editing. Simple typo, I spent so much time talking about space law on other servers the word comes naturally.
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