Branching off and empowering research and the CL [W-Y Employee eyes only]

[TopHatPenguin]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):An interesting idea for research could be that instead of them having a room aboard the Sulaco it might be better if they had a smaller research vessel with various equipment onboard which is under protection by the Sulaco for the remainder of the operation, the researchers would also be W-Y employees instead of some high paid civ this means we could then tie in the CL and researchers knowing about the xenos beforehand but keeping their mouths shut because of W-Y wanting to observe and study the species.

Then to go between the two there could either be a space bridge or a small shuttle. The research vessel would be funded and owned by W-Y along with the researchers. Effectively branching off research from medical and essentially giving them more of a shady standing along with CL, which hopefully would bring about some nice rp between the CL, Researchers and the marines.

On the ship itself there could be a wide range of W-Y fluff about previous experiments and general shady stuff, along with the standard research machines.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): More rp from a currently rather bland job, a effective private area for research to take place, more W-Y links would be added in, CL would have a fellow W-Y shady counterpart.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Covered in the summary pretty much.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Mapping, spriting and probably coding.

And yes I'm well aware that if this is accepted it would definitely be a backburner project.

[Swagile]

Feels like marines would now use the research shuttle as a "last stand" area, since there would only be a space bridge connecting it.

Great suggestion tho, would be nice for researchers to be more of the dodgy people on the ship than the nice grandfather figure that gives medical a laser scapel every round.

[TopHatPenguin]

Feels like marines would now use the research shuttle as a "last stand" area, since there would only be a space bridge connecting it.

I was thinking to counter that the research vessel would count any mob there as dead so that marines wouldn't want to have a last stand there, also it might not be a space bridge it could be a small pod/shuttle between ships much like the mining shuttle in standard ss13 servers, either one would probably be fine albeit I think a shuttle may be a better idea just so that mps don't constantly go over to research area. Saying that though there could be 'special W-Y access' doors by the space bridge, which only the Cl and researchers have.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

i'm honestly all for this. AS it stands, research hardly gets to do anything, what with marines deciding to gib xeno corpses instead of bring them back nowadays. It'd also encourage rp's and so forth for research and the liaison.

[Mook476]

+1 This sounds like a really dope idea and I feel as if it needs to be added it would really add more roleplay options for the researcher and CL

[Enceri]

+1

Please, please. Do this.

[Sarah_U.]

Problems sighted:
Lore-wise, Sullaco is fitted with an FTL engine that's relatively high-budget and power-consuming (Thus why SM).
For this to work, it'd need a docking measure much like the escape ship in Alien 1.

With this cleared, idk what to do of this. It'd be great, but also pretty weird. I love science dep and all, but yea
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All in all, I see many a flaws in this. I'm not really mindful of Research / W-Y friendship, but the separate ship causes lore and logical issues that needs to be worked on.

[Surrealistik]

This sounds more like depowering Research since it seems as though it'd detract from bomb and chem production by making it significantly more difficult (especially the act of building autolathes and getting supplies for mass potassium bomb production).

[TopHatPenguin]

This sounds more like depowering Research since it seems as though it'd detract from bomb and chem production by making it significantly more difficult (especially the act of building autolathes and getting supplies for mass potassium bomb production).

It'd be moving the research equipment to essentially another ship, aka you'd still have the chem master and all other machinery and equipment that is in the current research lab just on this ship, it'd be the exact same but with more Rp potential then previously and honestly it'lll either be a space bridge or small shuttle away that's not going to make it harder to get supplies just ask for them to be dropped off by the door or shuttle entrance.

[Surrealistik]

It'd be moving the research equipment to essentially another ship, aka you'd still have the chem master and all other machinery and equipment that is in the current research lab just on this ship, it'd be the exact same but with more Rp potential then previously and honestly it'lll either be a space bridge or small shuttle away that's not going to make it harder to get supplies just ask for them to be dropped off by the door or shuttle entrance.

It really depends on the placement of this 'shuttle', and how easy/hard it is to get to.

Alternately, if they start with everything they need to make autolathes and autolathe products, this could be an actual empowering.

Is the shuttle mobile, or is it essentially fixed in place?

[TopHatPenguin]

Problems sighted:
Lore-wise, Sullaco is fitted with an FTL engine that's relatively high-budget and power-consuming (Thus why SM).
For this to work, it'd need a docking measure much like the escape ship in Alien 1.

With this cleared, idk what to do of this. It'd be great, but also pretty weird. I love science dep and all, but yea

Hence the "Small shuttle or space bridge" aka it could be either, not much of an issue as the small shuttle could just be made to look more like the escape ship.

All in all, I see many a flaws in this. I'm not really mindful of Research / W-Y friendship, but the separate ship causes lore and logical issues that needs to be worked on.

It's a mission effectively sponsored by W-Y with the Cl there to make sure everything runs smoothly it makes perfect sense for the research team to also be in the back pocket of W-Y (Similar to alien and aliens in that respect) and also that they may already know of the xenomorph existence along with the CL. The separate ship idea is to solidify the fact that W-Y could/probably would have a large investment riding on the research of the xenomorphs, and harnessing their power.

[TopHatPenguin]

It really depends on the placement of this 'shuttle', and how easy/hard it is to get to.

Alternately, if they start with everything they need to make autolathes and autolathe products, this could be an actual empowering.

Is the shuttle mobile, or is it essentially fixed in place?

They'd start with everything they need as it's a research vessel funded and owned by W-Y, so top of the line equipment and gear would be provided aboard.

The research vessel would either be connected via a space bridge to the Sulaco or via a small shuttle, both would be fairly quick either way.

The research vessel itself could be made mobile but it wouldn't exactly be needed so it would most likely be fixed.

[Sarah_U.]

It's a mission effectively sponsored by W-Y with the Cl there to make sure everything runs smoothly it makes perfect sense for the research team to also be in the back pocket of W-Y (Similar to alien and aliens in that respect) and also that they may already know of the xenomorph existence along with the CL. The separate ship idea is to solidify the fact that W-Y could/probably would have a large investment riding on the research of the xenomorphs, and harnessing their power.

You realise that W-Y monitors the mission, but does not sponsor it much? W-Y provided a CL to the Sullaco for various reasons (Monitoring aliens yes), but they don't own or finance the ship in any other way than making it and adding the FTL engine.

Thus, yea I knew and understood that point, that's actually why I want more sciencey W-Y stuff in, but I also think the separate ship makes no common sence unless it's inside the ship, and then it requires various design works and SECURITY INVOLVMENT that wouldn't make sence on the CURRENT sullaco. Idk how you'd even fit it PROPERLY on any design either- Except if you made it dock in an ERT docking section and kept it there as if it had been placed in the ship for that specific purpose.

Edit: Toned down the unnecessary words and such that I didn't intend to word that way, sry.

[Joe4444]

You realise that W-Y monitors the mission, but does not sponsor it much? W-Y provided a CL to the Sullaco for various reasons (Monitoring aliens yes), but they don't own or finance the ship in any other way than making it and adding the FTL engine.

actually...the CL is a permanent addition to the sulaco crew, the first ship to have a full time liason on board.in fact...that's probably why the sulaco was the ship that was dispatched.

[Sarah_U.]

x__x That's what I meaaaaant~ (@Joe)

[Joe4444]

oh godamnit I thought you thought that the CL was only with them for this mission...RIP

[TopHatPenguin]

You realise that W-Y monitors the mission, but does not sponsor it much? W-Y provided a CL to the Sullaco for various reasons (Monitoring aliens yes), but they don't own or finance the ship in any other way than making it and adding the FTL engine.

Chief, I said they effectively sponsored the mission not that they own the Sulaco in anyway shape or form, for example the CL being there for W-Y to observe over the colony's assets and to scrounge up any data possible, considering that W-Y is all about colonization and weapons (*Cough* xenomorph biological warfare test gone wrong *cough*) as well as that considering how W-Y owns a lot of stocks in the USCMC, it's safe to say there could of been some blackmail to send the troops out on that mission for W-Y research.

Thus, yea I knew and understood that point, that's actually why I want more sciencey W-Y stuff in, but I also think the separate ship makes no damn sence unless it's inside the ship, and then it requires various design works and SECURITY INVOLVMENT that wouldn't make sence on the CURRENT sullaco. Idk how you'd even fit it PROPERLY on any design either- Except if you made it dock in an ERT docking section and kept it there as if it had been placed in the ship for that specific purpose.

Well the suggestion is about branching off research and the CL to hopefully improve the rp potential for both of those jobs whilst also giving them an improved workspace with lots of potential fluff.

[Sailor Dave]

I definitely think it would be interesting to have W-Y more closely associated with research. There's a lot more roleplay potential there with how the two crews interact. How this would work for what Surrealistik pointed out is a fair point, although putting it the way he said makes research sound a little.. off, with the focus on bombs. Not that they shouldn't necessarily be allowed to do so, but that I don't think it should be their main focus. Unfortunately with research as it is, it's their only real use, so there's not much I can say about that. Hopefully this would be an avenue for other options. +1

[Renomaki]

To be honest, I never understood WHY the Sulico has random scientist working on her deck... Doctors, MTs and CTs I can understand, but scientist seem really out of place.

It would be more logical for them to be members of Weyland than to be a part of the marines, since I doubt the military would stuff random researchers on military vessels for the sake of science.

[Enceri]

Bump, to bring notice back to this suggestion.

[KingKire]

I honestly feel in lore terms, it would be better to have the scientist be "W-Y" employed. but then again, you then have problems with the scientist never telling the sulaco about aliens/lying right out about them. I think there needs to be a stronger tie-in between why a scientist is on board, and why they are using w-y equipment. how that happens, idk

[Swagile]

I honestly feel in lore terms, it would be better to have the scientist be "W-Y" employed. but then again, you then have problems with the scientist never telling the sulaco about aliens/lying right out about them. I think there needs to be a stronger tie-in between why a scientist is on board, and why they are using w-y equipment. how that happens, idk

Same reason why a WY rep is there.

The official reason is to survey new worlds, look after their investment, yada yada.

The unofficial reason is that they are just trying to steal genetic secrets and send it back to WY before USMC Command realizes whats REALLY going on.

[Snypehunter007]

We are currently rethinking research. This is going to be locked for now.