A New Rule/Nest-Eggs

[MrJJJ]

Suggestion Title: A New Rule For Aliens/Nest-Eggs

Summary: Basically, A Rule Which Has This Description *Do Not Make Eggs Inside Nests(Or Walls)* Because Literaly, Eggs Cant be Seen Under Nests Unless You Examine Them All, Heck, You Cant Destroy Them Either, Unless You Destroy The Nests, For Which You Need A Knife…And You Know How It Goes…

Benefits: This Will Stop Aliens Just Quickly And Unfairly Destroy Marines In Seconds, Even Hit, (A Queen Managed To Take Down 3 HIT Thanks To That) Marines As Heck Have A Lot Of Vulnerability, Just Placing Eggs Inside Nests To Make Them Invinsible And Force Marines To Knife Them.Which Results In Marines Being Hugged, And Then Aliens Come Out Or A Queen, And Easily Defeat Marines.

Details: I Think Thanks To This Rule, Some Will Stop Doing This, However If Some Still Try To Do That, Maybe We Can Make A Message Say To Them "Bad Place For A Egg/Nest" When A Queen Try's To Plant A Egg Inside A Nest/Nest Inside A Egg, Because Seriously, Thats Too If I Am Not Wrong Fall Under Rule 0, Since Its Just Been A Dick To Marines And Hoping For Easy KO Of Entire Squads, Which Can Easily Happen, Because It Takes 2 Huggers To Take Down A Marine, Now Imagine Your Squad And Others Running Into A Nest, Chasing After A Alien, Then Suddenly, Huggers Everywhere, They Rip Your Helmets Off And Infect 9/10 Of You Or All, And Then Aliens Come And Nest You And KO The Non Knocked Out Ones, Its No Surprise Some People Will Rage And Decide To Ghost.

Implementation: I Think Its Easy To Do, Since We Already Have A Message For Aliens That Try To Plant Weeds In Space.

Did I Miss/Misread Anything Or Etc?

[Davidchan]

+1 was Considering suggesting it myself.

Recommend adding/changing code so that Lay Egg, Produce Royal Jelly and Secrete Resin all check the tile to ensure there isn't an Egg, Jelly, Nest/Door/Wall/Membrane in place before allowing the action to go through. It's become annoyingly common for Queen's to blanket their eggs with nests since it's impossible to see the egg, let alone destroy it without triggering the hugger.

Enforcing Aliens so they can only have one object in a tile (aside from weeds) seems like a no brainer, and I'd even take it as far as requiring Alien Weeds to be present BEFORE they can make Resin tiles.

[MrJJJ]

Enforcing Aliens so they can only have one object in a tile (aside from weeds) seems like a no brainer, and I'd even take it as far as requiring Alien Weeds to be present BEFORE they can make Resin tiles.

I 100% Agree With This, I Seen That This Thing Is Becoming More Common, Its Going To Be Annoying A lot, Aliens Are OP As Hell For Marines Already But They Remain Killable, Dodging Neuro Is Possible, Kill Them Before They Pounce Or Wear A Riot Shield, Move Away Before She Screeches And Etc, But Counter To Nest-Eggs? Is To Run Out And Bring Them All Out, Again Chances Are Queen Just Replants Them And Tackles That Runner Guy Or Whoever Will Get Him, You Can Just Get 1 Tile Close To Nest Then Quickly Run Off, Though Chances Are That The Guy Will Be Gotten, And Eggs Returned Again

[razerwing]

I agree with the nest-egg rule addition. However, the wall-egging kind of makes sense, if it isn't spammed. For instance, the few times I've played Queen, I'll sometimes lay eggs along the walls in the hallway leading to the bar and leave a one-tile gap in the middle. Lay some walls over the eggs and you have a trap corridor that forces marines to expend valuable ammunition to clear it.

It's important to note that using the 'Trap-Corridor' tactic allows marines the opportunity to clear the walls AND the eggs underneath, provided they have the ammunition, time, and will to do so. They don't have to walk up right against the wall to get rid of it, they don't have to trigger the huggers, and they don't have to magically shoot around corners to do this.

[coroneljones]

Marines could easily approach a nest and backup quickly to see if a hugger appears..

Though from what i heard most marines just rush and get hugger spammed by it
It would need some....modifying to make it perfect

[Davidchan]

Marines could easily approach a nest and backup quickly to see if a hugger appears..

Doesn't really work, since getting within ~2 tiles will make the egg open. Takes maybe a second for them to open and the hugger can actually leap and latch onto you without the sprite ever appearing. Server lag doesn't help this, but this would mean a constant 2 steps forward, 1 step back, and I've seen entire hallways made into nest-egg traps that aren't really avoidable if the Marines are serious about removing the hive.

[coroneljones]

That is wrong.
You only need to step 1 tile around the egg to hatch...i have done this multiple times.

[MrJJJ]

Jones, I Am Aware You Can Do That, But As Said, Most Marines Dont Bother To Do That, Wall-Eggs Are Okay, I Have No Grudge Against Them, Just Blow That Wall Up And The Egg, Nest-Eggs Are Far More Annoying, Since You Need A Damn Knife To Destroy Them...And You Cant See The Egg...

[Redfield5]

Please stop capitalizing every word.

[Sellka]

I'm agreeing with Jones on this one. There has to be some way for the aliens to lay traps other then some in the wall and a hugger in the locker. Anyways marines are not just suppose to Rambo in charging into a unknown situation, especially during first contact. Not to say the eggs under the nest are annoying due to being unable to break the nest with rifle fire, or exposing yourself to a chance of face rape.

[MrJJJ]

Please stop capitalizing every word.

Please For Christ Sake Stop.

MAN UP
AND DEAL WITH IT
move on.

[johners12345]

Please For Christ Sake Stop.

MAN UP
AND DEAL WITH IT
move on.

While I agree it's a issue with the eggs under the nest. You are sort of losing my help by doing a child's thing by capitalizing every word..(mainly cause it's messing with my eyes so bad I can't read your sentences)

[apophis775]

I will assign someone to fix this in the code ASAP.