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Give SL a Tactical PDA

Post by Nicboone » 16 Mar 2017, 12:28

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):

Equip Squal Leaders with a PDA that has a list of all of their squaddies status and locations. Also, add a feature to check a box next to each name that will inform the MP's to arrest that person. This acts more as a notification than an actual arrest function.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):

While a BO basically fills this role in many times, a BO should be focusing on working on things like OB's, orders, and supplies as a matter of priority. This would allow squad leaders to keep track of their marines- ensuring that the commands are being followed closer. The arrest option streamlines things a bit for marines who meta and ignore orders to just go attack hydro because 'FOB duty is Booorrriiiinnnngggg, REEEEE'. Xenos would probably also like this option in order to avoid early metarush. Bo's would also more effectively be able to attend to the chain of command rather than having to reiterate orders to rowdy marines.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):

Just give them a tactical PDA with a handful of options- a set arrest function, a unit tracker, map, and maybe a station bounced radio built in? This PDA would be locked so only the SL could use it. If the SL died, the BO would have to Resume this part of the job. There is however a potential for abuse- if the SL is a griefer, or misuses the arrest function, players could be getting arrested for things that dont break marine law. This would probably need some kind of oversight in order to work, and not just arrest marines for shits.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):

Probably start with it in your backpack. Enforce fairly strict rules about its use- due to not being able to file out a specific crime [as thats more the MPs arrest job, and would take too long on the surface] you would have to have a set time limit [5ish minutes] of standard detain time in order to communicate what they are in there for, or if they even need to be in there, with the MPs and command having a final say on giving harsher or more lienient punishments. Perhaps even a "distance from SL" note would be a wise addition.

Some personal Notes:

I usually have a great time even in the current system- but too often have marines done things that both break marine law, and interrupt the flow of the game- but also are just skirting shy of bans. Some examples include; marines throwing smoke grenades for shits at engineers when the FOB is being built, Marines disarming/flashing medics and engineers doing their jobs, marines in a large squad of 20 running off and metagaming leaving only a squad of 6....etcetc. They rely on the chance that they probaby wont get brigged for it because MP's wont come down, and when they go up the MPs may not notice/remember them. This function keeps these people in check- to some degree.
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Re: Give SL a Tactical PDA

Post by NoahKirchner » 16 Mar 2017, 12:30

Holy fucking yes take my +1s. I'd even go as far as to change the BO's tracking tool to the same map function. Using nanoui maps maybe that go off of suit sensors, question mark?

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
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Post by Crab_Spider » 16 Mar 2017, 12:31

... so give SLs SecHuds?
You will never be as bad as the baldie who picked up a tactical shotgun while a hunter was pouncing on top of a CMO for 4 seconds, with his only response being to pace around before being decap'd by said hunter. You are not Brett Kimple, and you never will be. You are not the reason why I regular MP.

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Post by NoahKirchner » 16 Mar 2017, 12:33

Crab_Spider wrote:... so give SLs SecHuds?
Nononononono, it's saying to give SLs a PDA function that allows them to tell sec to arrest someone. Not setting them to arrest on a HUD from what I can gather. Like a department alert in base ss13. IE viro asking for radium, etc, but sending it to the MPs.
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Re: Give SL a Tactical PDA

Post by Nicboone » 16 Mar 2017, 12:34

NoahKirchner wrote:Holy fucking yes take my +1s. I'd even go as far as to change the BO's tracking tool to the same map function. Using nanoui maps maybe that go off of suit sensors, question mark?

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
take my +1s please dear god
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Re: Give SL a Tactical PDA

Post by Nicboone » 16 Mar 2017, 12:35

NoahKirchner wrote:Nononononono, it's saying to give SLs a PDA function that allows them to tell sec to arrest someone. Not setting them to arrest on a HUD from what I can gather. Like a department alert in base ss13. IE viro asking for radium, etc, but sending it to the MPs.
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Post by Crab_Spider » 16 Mar 2017, 12:36

NoahKirchner wrote:Nononononono, it's saying to give SLs a PDA function that allows them to tell sec to arrest someone. Not setting them to arrest on a HUD from what I can gather. Like a department alert in base ss13. IE viro asking for radium, etc, but sending it to the MPs.
Yeahhh. I think it's simpler to just have SL's equipped with HUDSunglasses, and when someone is marked, they are alerted to the Police Channel. There's also the fact you can get a PDA from Research.
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Post by NoahKirchner » 16 Mar 2017, 12:39

Crab_Spider wrote:Yeahhh. I think it's simpler to just have SL's equipped with HUDSunglasses, and when someone is marked, they are alerted to the Police Channel. There's also the fact you can get a PDA from Research.
But does that PDA have all thems fancy functions?
I don't think so.
But for just three small payments of 19.99, you can have a PDA that comes with all of these cool features.
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Re: Give SL a Tactical PDA

Post by Casgair » 16 Mar 2017, 13:46

Problems:

PDA eats a slot, as AFAIK ids cannot be put in there now as a "workaround" to people stepping on mines and getting blown to bits because they don't have their ID out.

NanoUI is cumbersome to say the least. Where you can shift click, button, set arrest with SecHUD, PDA would require: using PDA, opening sec function, finding marine name out of all possible Marines, set to arrest. Nobody got time fo' dat.

The tracker isn't totally a bad idea, but as above, slow access + eating up your FOV makes me think it's more trouble than it's worth.

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Re: Give SL a Tactical PDA

Post by KingKire » 16 Mar 2017, 14:19

+1 +1.Aw man, this idea sounds like some cool shit. ohhh man, im having so many good ideas if that was implemented. Hell even a cool army green color scheme with big 80" knobs on that sprite. ohhh yah cool stuff.
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Re: Give SL a Tactical PDA

Post by Dapper Stache » 17 Mar 2017, 11:15

I'd like to see this ingame absolutely, but it seems like a lot of work and there's bigger fish to fry right now. +1 if devs wanna bother.
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Re: Give SL a Tactical PDA

Post by Nicboone » 17 Mar 2017, 16:44

Dapper Stache wrote:I'd like to see this ingame absolutely, but it seems like a lot of work and there's bigger fish to fry right now. +1 if devs wanna bother.
chances are youre probably right- I know literally nothing about coding, so It wouldnt suprise me this would take work.- but im glad to see so many people approving of this
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Post by Snypehunter007 » 02 Jul 2017, 14:57

Going to run through this with BMC, tomorrow. Please do not post until after Monday (07/03/17).
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Re: Give SL a Tactical PDA

Post by Tidomann » 04 Jul 2017, 02:46

I would really really love to be able to send a message to my overwatch SO with this, even if comms are down.

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Post by Snypehunter007 » 20 Jul 2017, 20:28

Denied.

We aren't re-adding the PDA at the moment due to the wonkiness it caused.
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