Upping the Armor on Gloves and Boots, Just a Tad bit.

[Nightwolf901]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):As the Title asks, Up the Armor slightly on Boots and Gloves.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): It will give Rhine's the chance to not be utterly fucked up any caste who is able to Insta Decap a Limb, Such as a Ravager.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Prevents any level of Ravager and high levels of Runner and Hunter from Getting only a few hits to decap a limb off. Such as a Ravager at the Young state and higher can Already Insta delimb any limb they choose because the Armor level is low. An add onto that is they have a chance to break your other bones as well. Say for Example Your Right arm just cut off by a Ravager and you need to get away and try and feed your self a Pill. Oh whats that? He broke your left hand as well.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Coding, Coders have Magic fingers

[Karmac]

I once had my leg cut off and I was still in light yellow, I didn't even notice it till somebody pointed out I was missing a god-damn leg, we could most certainly use a bit more armour. +1.

[MrJJJ]

About the Rav

They for some reason, slash multiple times depending on distance, so if they charge you while really close to you, thats probably instant death since they slash you like 7 times, even young ravs can make you dead this quickly.

This seems to also happen when they are on help intent, but not on tackle intent


Still, the amount of how useless armor is wew, i once got my head broken by a young runner within 3 hits.

[Casany]

I once went from full health to missing my left arm and breaking my chest from a young Ravi
+1

[shyshadow]

+1, I don't like my Tin-foil vest.

[Swagile]

Critical hit RNG plus how Baymed works = why armor is shit.

You could be hit by a rav charge point blank and break NOTHING, not even a fracture. But the next time a rav gets close to you and hits you ONCE, they INSTANTLY DELIMB YOU.

Its not armor, its just RNG and the fact that there is a lot of RNG checks against human mobs in baymed. Thats why a Young Runner can rend you viciously with their teeth once and instantly fracture despite wearing full armor.

[MrJJJ]

Critical hit RNG plus how Baymed works = why armor is shit.

You could be hit by a rav charge point blank and break NOTHING, not even a fracture. But the next time a rav gets close to you and hits you ONCE, they INSTANTLY DELIMB YOU.

Its not armor, its just RNG and the fact that there is a lot of RNG checks against human mobs in baymed. Thats why a Young Runner can rend you viciously with their teeth once and instantly fracture despite wearing full armor.

>its not armor its just rng

You got it half-right, expect it IS armor, armor has a RNG chance to soften the hit or ignore it...or do nothing against it.

Really most of the game is 95% RNG

Its RNG if a bullet hits your target

Its RNG if your tackle/disarm will fail

Its RNG if you get a tail that will knock you down or will stab you

Its RNG if the spit will miss or not

Its RNG if SADAR will miss a target or will go slightly to the left or right

While its not bad, Its RNG if your gun jams or not (the chances of it jamming is actually around 0.000001%, its like a once in a blue moon thing)

Its RNG if the xeno will do 7 vicious teeth attack and instantly kill you before you get up

Its RNG if additional buckshot will spawn at all

Its RNG if earmuffs will mute anything

Its RNG if you are doing surgery on a non-sleeping person not on a surgery table (can we actually make them unacidable please?)

Its RNG if that boiler cloud will hit you and set you on fire

Its RNG if the said boiler cloud will go straight or move a bit to the left or right

Its RNG when you get organ damage from broken bones, you can walk 50m fine and only get 1 organ damage message, and then suddenly get 6 from moving just a few tiles and pass out into crit

I think you all get the point by now just how RNGey combat is.

[Nightwolf901]

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Sorry, but Armor actually has RNG of its own to help and also, I don't like my arm to fly off and die instantly after that.

[Crab_Spider]

Xenos are established to be powerful, all castes are able to rip into an airlock and pry it open while it's powered on, and the runner in 3 had no trouble carrying a grown man and running away with him.

Also. LIMBS GOT A BUFF TO NO LONGER BE DISMEMBERED AS EASILY A FEW DAYS AFTER THE CLONING REMOVAL. Why don't we also go back to the fact that the gloves are meant to provide resistance to friction and mechanical burn? Having them provide enough protection to the point where you can punch a tank with no problems and dent the metal would mean you'd break your hand.

If you break a limb too often,then replace it with a robo one. -1

[Nightwolf901]

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Yes I get that xenos are suppose to be powerful even being able to pick up and run with a man. Also a buff to limbs? I want to call bull becuase I still get my legs or arms cut off as soon as it was before the cloning removal. Gloves produce next to None armor. I'm not asking them to be riducously upgraded. Just a tad bit so RNG has SOME chance against Attacks to the limb. Also with the ravager bug it doesn't help.

[Swagile]

If you mean armor actually has RNG to protect you from delimbs, then you mean the one hit or two extra that you can take before you get delimbed, sure.

It doesn't make a difference most of the time though so I dismiss its usefulness.

[nerocavalier]

-1.

How would gloves stop a three meter tall killing machine from ripping off your arm? This is like complaining that a young hunter can break your head in several hits with a helmet when without one, it'll break your head much faster and have a better chance of removing it. As for the next to none armor, it's better than without it. Have you actually tried wearing latex gloves? Young hunters can remove your hands oh so easily, heck even mature runners can remove your arm in seconds.

[Nightwolf901]

-1.

How would gloves stop a three meter tall killing machine from ripping off your arm? This is like complaining that a young hunter can break your head in several hits with a helmet when without one, it'll break your head much faster and have a better chance of removing it. As for the next to none armor, it's better than without it. Have you actually tried wearing latex gloves? Young hunters can remove your hands oh so easily, heck even mature runners can remove your arm in seconds.

Yes actually I have, Same with Insulated gloves, The squad gloves only provide about 1-3 more hits from your arm being cut off so quickly, and it give marines such a low chance. Half of the trouble is trying to dodge a ravager im the first place. Second is worrying if you're going to instantly die or just bleed out due to their glitch and their level. I don't want the upgrade of the armor to be to much, I don't want to have my left arm fly off and the right one break so I can't stop my bleeding.

[nerocavalier]

The squad gloves only provide about 1-3 more hits from your arm being cut off so quickly, and it give marines such a low chance. Half of the trouble is trying to dodge a ravager im the first place. Second is worrying if you're going to instantly die or just bleed out due to their glitch and their level. I don't want the upgrade of the armor to be to much, I don't want to have my left arm fly off and the right one break so I can't stop my bleeding.

Such a low chance. That squad glove is already the difference between losing your arm and limping away with a broken arm.

Again, why would gloves stop a ravager from ripping your arm? As for other breaking your remaining arm, xenos don't have a guaranteed hit on their location of choice. It's entirely possible to aim for a decap and tear someone's arm off.

[MrJJJ]

>Using realism as argument

Can we use fun as argument instead? because its not fun having a one-hit, esspecially from not even a elite/ancient thing.

Is there REALLY that much of a problem raising it by 5-10% higher?

[forwardslashN]

Gloves and boots have decent enough armor. It's not meant to completely protect you from limb-removal. Denied.