Larva get a very small innate heal

[Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws]

Summary (The heal would be very minute, enough only to recover enough to eventually evolve without the need of weeds):

Benefits (It's slightly uncommon for a marine to burst on the sulaco, and when they do the larva needs to GTFO and hide, because if they take even a single punch they can't evolve without weeds, which more likely than not, do not exist on the sulaco. This would allow the larva to *eventually* recover enough to evolve into a t1 and cause some minor chaos onboard.):

Details (It'd just be a very, very slight heal over time. There's no warning to the players in dead-chat when they're about to burst, so having their POV being suddenly shifted to say, medbay surrounded by doctors can be disorienting; enough so that they're likely to take some amount of damage before they get their bearings and escape, dooming them to spend the rest of their existance on the sulaco running around the ship and yelling mean names in a tongue foreign to the marines):

Implementation (Should be simple enough, yeah? A very minor innate heal for all larva?):

[MrJJJ]

+1, a very small health regen wouldn't hurt a larva, they are LARVA, they can't do much until they evolve, getting away with 100% health required sheer luck and dumbness from marine side.

[Crab_Spider]

+1 There are guys that for SOME REASON when a larva pops, attack it and put it in containment so the player can't evolve. There's nothing you can gain from a docile larvae, and it's a dickish thing to do. But I'm not here to complain about Marines being more assholic than xenos when they actually get the chance to, I'm here to support this idea.

[KingKire]

Crab, your gonna sit inside my containment area with a tiny bed and a tiny chair and a food bowl, and you will enjoy being researches trophy worm for all eternity.

[Crab_Spider]

Crab, your gonna sit inside my containment area with a tiny bed and a tiny chair and a food bowl, and you will enjoy being researches trophy worm for all eternity.

But isn't that against the laws of ethics?

[Sarah_U.]

Ethi- Wha? Anyway, here's a suggestion: Remove the health restriction on larvas to evolve. They shed their skin and remain at the percent of life they evolve with.

+1 etiher way, I like the idea somewhat.

[caleeb101]

-1 nah, screwem. ducking and weaving is completely possible especially when you can hide under just about anything and crawl thru vents too and CRAWL UNDER DOORS

[Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws]

-1 nah, screwem. ducking and weaving is completely possible especially when you can hide under just about anything and crawl thru vents too and CRAWL UNDER DOORS

True, but the damage usually comes from being unprepared to burst; A random ghost is teleported into the new larva's body, possibly crossing Z-Levels. This is likely disorienting enough that the team on standby can easily get in a single hit, as they get warnings that the marine is about to burst ("X is shaking uncontrollably!" As well as the bursting animation that occurs *before* the ghost officially gets control of it). It doesn't take a marine with a gun, a simple punch will prevent a larva from evolving

[caleeb101]

True, but the damage usually comes from being unprepared to burst; A random ghost is teleported into the new larva's body, possibly crossing Z-Levels. This is likely disorienting enough that the team on standby can easily get in a single hit, as they get warnings that the marine is about to burst ("X is shaking uncontrollably!" As well as the bursting animation that occurs *before* the ghost officially gets control of it). It doesn't take a marine with a gun, a simple punch will prevent a larva from evolving

They are on marines turf anyways. If they don't escape unscathed then that's their problem. I sort of want to compare this to nesting... you get nested, there is basically no chance of escape. You're on the enemy turf and you should expect the worst.

[Crab_Spider]

They are on marines turf anyways. If they don't escape unscathed then that's their problem. I sort of want to compare this to nesting... you get nested, there is basically no chance of escape. You're on the enemy turf and you should expect the worst.

That's VERY different. Comparing xenos to humans is a faulty way to argue, as both are mechanically different, and when humans are nested, they usually have tools on them they can use to escape or deal damage, larvae are completely defenseless.

[Swagile]

Larvae can go under doors rapidly, even doors no one has access to except certain niche roles, and they can vent crawl away easily.

If they get shot once, thats their fault.

And xeno's can camp marines that are nested to make it impossible to do shit; marines can camp other marines about to burst and shoot you to shit.

Same scenario; tough luck if you get shot even once.

[Crab_Spider]

Larvae can go under doors rapidly, even doors no one has access to except certain niche roles, and they can vent crawl away easily.

If they get shot once, thats their fault.

And xeno's can camp marines that are nested to make it impossible to do shit; marines can camp other marines about to burst and shoot you to shit.

Same scenario; tough luck if you get shot even once.

So because x does one thing, y should be allowed to do it too?

[MrJJJ]

Larvae can go under doors rapidly, even doors no one has access to except certain niche roles, and they can vent crawl away easily.

If they get shot once, thats their fault.

And xeno's can camp marines that are nested to make it impossible to do shit; marines can camp other marines about to burst and shoot you to shit.

Same scenario; tough luck if you get shot even once.

>Tough luck you got hit once, maybe even by RNG as a larva but not tough luck that a marine just get's re-nested again and has 2 more chances to do so, and even more if resist bug is abused


Let me give you a reminder that MARINES have a SMALL HEALTH REGEN, and are usually never teleported while in combat, as a ghost, you will experience atleast a one second lag as you pop out, getting hit EVEN once is super easy, escaping isin't TOO hard, getting not hit is, you are either required to be RNG ultimate or have some seriously dumb marines to escape with no injury, or none at all and only one doctor who is confused as hell.

Vent crawl takes too long, and by the time you climb in, you are either super low health, or are in crit.

It seriously doesn't matter how fast you can go under doors if you are hit.

[David Attenbruv]

It seriously doesn't matter how fast you can go under doors if you are hit.

You're too slow!
(Yes I did give my self ear-aids by listening to that link)

Joke aside, unfortunately with Larvae you're basically a baby so, realistically it's logical that you're frail af and can't take soak a bullet like a champ. Legend and rumour has it that if you can reach Ancient Larva you might be able to get womped by a bullet and live to tell the tale.

[caleeb101]

So because x does one thing, y should be allowed to do it too?

Well.. in this case yes. Marines camp xenos, xenos camp marines. This is the same as when a biased marine player suggests it being easier to get out of nests. It should be dealt with the same too.

[Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws]

Escaping as a larva is easy. Escaping without being hit a single time isn't. What are we supposed to do when we escape, but took a single point of damage in our attempt? Just suicide because we're completely useless, unable to do anything? Someone suggested simply removing the 100% health requirement to evolve as larva, which I agree with.

[MrJJJ]

Well.. in this case yes. Marines camp xenos, xenos camp marines. This is the same as when a biased marine player suggests it being easier to get out of nests. It should be dealt with the same too.

Except marines can't camp xenos in any way, xenos have the time advantage, and you don't know if someone is infected unless you REMEMBER them getting face-hugged, and you SAW them shaking, which is good luck doing, because people can burst with no shaking.

[misto]

+1

reviving this thread thanks to the experience i just had!

imagine if youre a larva lucky enough to get away after bursting aboard the almayer, but you took a little damage doing it? youre stuck as a larva, cause theres no weeds to heal with on almayer!

part of the whole thematic purpose of chestbursters since the first movie is that they can be carried aboard invisibly and eventually grow to be a danger to the crew.

scooting around in the pipes making noises to spook the humans got boring.

if marines dont want xenos growing up after popping, confirm the kill!

[TheMaskedMan2]

+1 I feel all Xenos should have a veeeerrry small hp regen, so simply punching a hunter stranded from weeds won't completely fuck them forever. Just make it as low as plama regen is off of weeds, if not lower.

[caleeb101]

no. just no. you already got the 20 second burst thing. the main complaint was that you didn't have enough time to think about what you were doing. now you have time to look at your surroundings, plan your route of escape and you're still fast as hell boy. this is just stupid.

[TheDonkified]

+1 To larva only having this regen

[kazere]

+1 To larva regen since larvas are slower now compared to anyone else due to the new fps.

[Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws]

no. just no. you already got the 20 second burst thing. the main complaint was that you didn't have enough time to think about what you were doing. now you have time to look at your surroundings, plan your route of escape and you're still fast as hell boy. this is just stupid.

This was posted before that was added in, as far as I care I'm fine with it now.

[Jeser]

-1 to regeneration, +1 to remove evolveing health restriction for larvas.

[Emeraldblood]

+1 I think larva should have a slow heal over time. I feel this would be balanced because Larva are really soft anyways, one bullet will almost always put it in crit so this would only help players who take a small amount of damage as a Larva. Being hit as a larva and living means you are forced to either suicide or wait for a Xeno boarding. This would be a small Xeno buff but being most larva either escape or die I think it wouldn't make much of an impact. This is also a fair trade-off as this way a damaged larva would still have to wait to become a Drone, which would give the Marines more time to prepare (if they do).