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Admin Reversal

Post by Dabbster » 01 Mar 2015, 02:36

Suggestion Title:Admin Reversal

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):When a player knowingly breaks the rules to exploit shit, the result should be reversed.
For example, during this round, the 3 marines we're going to virology to rescue their friends, the aliens breached the wall in the virology access, so that when the marines opened the door, they got sucked in, then the aliens ran out and put aliens on them
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This sort of horse shit should be reversed by the admins, the marines involved should be teleporter back to the last safe place unharmed.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): Will stop those idiot rule breakers from abusing game mechanics/ POWERGAME.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Read Summary

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RE: Admin Reversal

Post by Shadowling1232 » 01 Mar 2015, 02:38

Neutral, need more informations.
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RE: Admin Reversal

Post by Dabbster » 01 Mar 2015, 02:44

Alright, I guess I can provide more examples, Here's a couple examples that already happens:
Griefer joins as marine, shoots other marines, the admins ban the griefer, but they also heal all the marines that he killed/shot.
Griefer throws flashbang, perma blinds a bunch of marines, admins heal all those affected by the flashbang.

Of course, this only works when admins with those privs are actually on, but I digress.
Anything that happens BECAUSE of someone breaking the rules, being fixed by admins.
Right now, when a breach happens, admins put a wall there (where the breach is), but the damage is already done, and that damage stays, because the round is already ruined for the marines that got infected/attacked by the aliens because they got pushed down by the airflow caused by the breach the aliens did.

Of course there needs to be a limit too though, like a marine getting killed because he disobeyed his SL, shouldn't be reversed, all up to admin.. (interpretation?)
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RE: Admin Reversal

Post by Void00 » 01 Mar 2015, 09:14

Eh ?
I dont understand what you mean.

Besides calculating the "law of contrappass" (As dante's coined it , in the middle ages) , for every single case , would be quite exagerated , and would just increase the amount of work we have to do for every single case.


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RE: Admin Reversal

Post by UnknownMurder » 01 Mar 2015, 11:57

This is not possible. As far as I understand him, he means to reverse oxygen, pressure, etc. back to normal, WHICH IS ALREADY POSSIBLE and some of us are lazy, but we should be really getting to work on solving that. At first, I thought you meant by time traveling back to the point where griefer fucks things up, as I read carefully and understood how you put evidences to here. I can say, it's already possible but takes a lot of processes, however simple.

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RE: Admin Reversal

Post by Dabbster » 01 Mar 2015, 15:06

Yep, I don't literally mean to 'reverse the round', just to intervene and 'fix' problems created by players, sure it would increase the workload for the admins, but I feel the overall player community would benefit from not having their round get wrecked by rule breakers.
I think right now one of the main problems is some admins are scared to fix certain problems because they don't want to be accused of abusing their powers, as i'm sure the rule breakers and powergamers would be upset and would complain that it 'ruined their immersion'. I'm not sure if you guys have this or not, but maybe a list of Do's and Don'ts for the staff team would help let them know that fixing these sorts of things on a less-busy round would be acceptable.

I understand this sort of thing would be hard to enforce during the bigger rounds when there's only a few staff, and 60 - 70 players, so of course it would be at admin discretion, but I think letting the staff know that they ARE allowed to fix these issues might change things.

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RE: Admin Reversal

Post by HighwaterOffical » 01 Mar 2015, 20:41

Honestly, if the round gets rekted for you, (You get hugged by a alien being intelligent and using physics to his advantage) The admins will generally ban the alien and heal you to begin with, not just say "Fuck you, deal with your own shit" WHICH is what you should do in the first place, Its not the admins job to fix your problems, its their job to insure people don't create problems.
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RE: Admin Reversal

Post by apophis775 » 04 Apr 2015, 16:33

Your suggestions is that the admins do their jobs? They already do that...

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